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Originally posted by: dhrishti_
@.annihilation. : *bows down to you* HOLY MOLY, did I just read what seems like a 3000+ word analysis based on a fictional character that is mostly confined to the existence of one mere year? I think it was much needed to clarify the concept of psychopathy, considering a huge part of the show is based on it. This isn't an analysis, this is a thesis, like the ones you need to do a PhD, yeah, that kind of thesis. I wasn't convinced that Maya is a psychopath, truly, I didn't want to admit it, but now I think it's pretty darn clear. I sincerely hope the show focuses on Maya's condition and further explains her behaviour, actions and personality instead of just terming her as 'ill' or suffering from a 'mental disorder', that'd be quite a disappointment, but at least now we have this post to hold onto. Oh yes, thanks for this post, I'm positive I'll come back and refer to it a lot in the 5(ish) months the show has left.
@---Khushi--- : Thanks for having shared this gem here, if not for you, I probably wouldn't have ever come across this dissection of psychopathy.
Brilliantly analyzed post!! I don't have anything else to add since your post exhaustively covers all points.But I fear that, in the end, the cvs might take up an easy route, and may just term her as mentally ill instead of explaining what exactly Maya suffers from. Similar thing happened in Gone Girl, but there it didn't really matter, cause it was just a 2 hour movie which you could watch and get over it quickly. But in Beyhadh's case, we are devoting so much of our time and energy into it, that we would feel cheated if there weren't any proper explanations for Maya's character. Especially if they are planning to redeem her in the end. I really hope that the cvs realize that their show is being watched by a matured audience and that those viewers do deserve a proper explanation.
Originally posted by: ---Khushi---
Husna...mere post par bhi chaar shabd tapka de, please...😭
Tere jitni nahi, par maine bhi mehnat ki Hai...😉😆
Originally posted by: ---Khushi---
If we assume that Maya is indeed a psychopath, here are certain facts about psychopaths...1) We all have often wondered how Maya manages to manipulate people & make them do what she wants them to...well, here's an insight into what could be the reason for that..."There are two kinds of empathy," says James Falpsychopathlon, a neuroscientist at the University of California and author of The Psychopath Inside: A Neuroscientist's Personal Journey into the Dark Side of the Brain. "Cognitive empathy is the ability to know what other people are feeling, and emotional empathy is the kind where you feel what they're feeling."Autistic people can be very empathetic - they feel other people's pain - but are less able to recognise the cues we read easily, the smiles and frowns that tell us what someone is thinking. Psychopaths are often the opposite: they know what you're feeling, but don't feel it themselves. "This all gives certain psychopaths a great advantage, because they can understand what you're thinking, it's just that they don't care, so they can use you against yourself." (Chillingly, psychopaths are particularly adept at detecting vulnerability. A 2008 study that asked participants to remember virtual characters found that those who scored highly for psychopathy had a near perfect recognition for sad, unsuccessful females, but impaired memory for other characters.)2) We have often wondered why she hasn't been treated as yet...here's the probable reason..."Psychopathy is probably the most pleasant-feeling of all the mental disorders," says the journalist Jon Ronson, whose book, The Psychopath Test, explored the concept of psychopathy and the mental health industry in general. "All of the things that keep you good, morally good, are painful things: guilt, remorse, empathy." Fallon agrees: "Psychopaths can work very quickly, and can have an apparent IQ higher than it really is, because they're not inhibited by moral concerns."So psychopaths often welcome their condition, and "treating" them becomes complicated. "How many psychopaths go to a psychiatrist for mental distress, unless they're in prison? It doesn't happen," says Hare. The ones in prison, of course, are often required to go to "talk therapy, empathy training, or talk to the family of the victims" - but since psychopaths don't have any empathy, it doesn't work. "What you want to do is say, Look, it's in your own self-interest to change your behaviour, otherwise you'll stay in prison for quite a while.'"(Reference : http://googleweblight.com/i?u=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2017/04/20/psychopaths-can-spot-one/&grqid=4mfamyJe&hl=en-IN )
Originally posted by: .annihilation.
Oh and just a head's up. The reason I cited references along with my analysis was because I'd like anyone who reads it to go through the references as well so that you don't have to consider my word without a reading or some research on your own. If you have gone through the reference 3 ,you'll know that the Hare's PCL-R isn't just a yes/no checklist. A professional/qualified clinician/examiners/experts are the ones who score the subjects/patients on the list. And thus, I merely checked off the parameters on the list based on whether they qualify in Maya's case or not. I didn't personally score it a 0, 1, or 2 because I don't think I'm qualified enough to do that.
Originally posted by: HadhSeJyada
Add this in the original post so as to avoid confusion.AndDespite not being in the field, you've done a tremendously amazing job at this and we need more people like you to create awareness and debunk the common myths related to it.I'm deeply gratified by your willingness to put efforts and your thirst for knowledge.The discussion I had with you was the most healthy and peaceful one here till date.Glad that happened.Thank you!