What was in his mind ...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I am a silent reader of this forum and a big fan of Jenny and Kushal both. After reading some of the posts tonight which sickened me to the core, I had to jump in. So here is my take of the situation:

1. Ayan said, "Aisi halat ker dun ga k ankh utha ker nahi dekh sakegi", not once or twice but three times. Once to Sanjh on mobile and twice to Maya. Did he know beforehand that Maya was going to hide something in her clothes which eventually he would tear off to humiliate her? LOL. He said clearly "maut to bohot asan hogi tere liye", and what can be worse than death to a woman?

2. Maya never hinted that the key was in her clothes, or at least they didn't show that part. How can Ayan assume that it was in her dress. It was Maya's house, the key could be literally anywhere. He could break the door with force or search for something heavy to break in, but of all the options in the world, he jumped onto the conclusion that the key is in Maya's clothes.

3. When Samay tried to stop him, Ayan said, "Main chorun ga nahi is ko". Err, that not at all sound like a 'key search' to me.

4. The maximum benefit of doubt I can give to Ayan is that he might be trying to tear off her clothes only to humiliate her, but still how can we know that he was only tearing her clothes without taking pleasure out of it, and will not get carried away if Samay had not stopped him?

5. If the same scene happens in front of you, what would you think?

6. How will you differentiate between clothes ripping and a rape attempt? We only have the criminal's words for what exactly was in his mind, and the victim would definitely feel that he is going above and beyond.

I am not supporting Maya here, but she has not done anything to Ayan this much bad to deserve this behavior. She might have been a murderer but she has not murdered any loved one of Ayan so he had no right to be a vigilante.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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1. How does that imply that he was going to sexually assault her? If you break someone's legs, they will be in a pretty bad condition too.

3. Neither does it sound like he was raping her. He was probably looking for the key but was also trying to physically hurt the woman who destroyed their lives.

4. That is not proper logic. You are basically saying: he didn't rape her, but how do we know that he wouldn't rape her if he had more time? That is not how it works.

"I am not supporting Maya here, but she has not done anything to Ayan this much bad to deserve this behavior."

She destroyed their lives. She drugged and abducted his brother. She separated their family soon after Arjun had reconciled with his step-mother.
Edited by HippoSucks - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks

1. How does that imply that he was going to sexually assault her? If you break someone's legs, they will be in a pretty bad condition too.

3. Neither does it sound like he was raping her. He was probably looking for the key but was also trying to physically hurt the woman who destroyed their lives.

4. That is not proper logic. You are basically saying: he didn't rape her, but how do we know that he wouldn't rape her if he had more time? That is not how it works.

"I am not supporting Maya here, but she has not done anything to Ayan this much bad to deserve this behavior."

She destroyed their lives. She drugged and abducted his brother. She separated their family soon after Arjun had reconciled with his step-mother.



1 & 3. Breaking legs doesn't require tearing clothes. He could have slapped her if he wanted to hurt her.

4. Is the word 'attempt to rape' exist in your dictionary? or you only understand full fledged rape with medical evidence?

She destroyed their lives?
When did this happen? Are Ayan and Vandana living on a street? Arjun doesn't meet them but that doesn't constitute as destruction. Look around you so many people don't meet their parents or inlaws for many reasons.

She separated their family soon after Arjun had reconciled with his step-mother.
If you really think this deserves manhandling then the discussion ends here because only a pervert can think about manhandling his bhabhi just because she separated their family. We find such a woman in every family who would be blamed tirelessly for tearing the family apart, but no man thinks like k "aisi halat ker dunga k woh ankh utha ker dekh nahi paye gi", not at least in educated people.

Only a lukha can think about taking revenge from his babhi just because she has separated their brother.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Atonement



1 & 3. Breaking legs doesn't require tearing clothes. He could have slapped her if he wanted to hurt her.

4. Is the word 'attempt to rape' exist in your dictionary? or you only understand full fledged rape with medical evidence?

She destroyed their lives?
When did this happen? Are Ayan and Vandana are living on a street? Arjun doesn't meet them but that doesn't constitute as destruction. Look around you so many people don't meet their parents or inlaws for many reasons.

She separated their family soon after Arjun had reconciled with his step-mother.
If you really think this deserves manhandling then the discussion ends here because only a pervert can think about manhandling his bhabhi just because she separated their family. We find such a woman in every family who would be blamed tirelessly for tearing the family apart, but no man thinks like k "aisi halat ker dunga k woh ankh utha ker dekh nahi paye gi", not at least in educated people.

Only a lukha can think about taking revenge from his babhi just because she has separated their brother.


Who cares what other families do? They had a very good relationship with Arjun and Maya separated him from all his family and friends, through deceit.

Please read the whole post before responding. "She drugged and abducted his brother."

If someone did that to your brother in front of you, you would hit your brother's kidnapper too.

Bhabhi? Arjun wants nothing to do with her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks



Please read the whole post before responding. "She drugged and abducted his brother."

If someone did that to your brother in front of you, you would hit your brother's kidnapper too.

Bhabhi? Arjun wants nothing to do with her.



Then why did he not go to Police? and that kidnapper is his brother's lawful wife. Although no person has a right to drug and abduct their spouse, but how come Ayan know that she drugged and abducted him? All of that happened inside the Ambulance.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks

1. How does that imply that he was going to sexually assault her? If you break someone's legs, they will be in a pretty bad condition too.

3. Neither does it sound like he was raping her. He was probably looking for the key but was also trying to physically hurt the woman who destroyed their lives.

4. That is not proper logic. You are basically saying: he didn't rape her, but how do we know that he wouldn't rape her if he had more time? That is not how it works.

"I am not supporting Maya here, but she has not done anything to Ayan this much bad to deserve this behavior."

She destroyed their lives. She drugged and abducted his brother. She separated their family soon after Arjun had reconciled with his step-mother.

1) when a guy says to a girl "aisi haalath karunga k kisi ko aankh uthakar nahi dekh paogi"(something like that I guess) and "maut to bohot aasaan hogi tere liye" what do the audience supposed to mean?😕
3)Looking for the key?????by tearing off her clothes?? Really???? 😲 and how did he know where the key was ??
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Atonement



Then why did he not go to Police? and that kidnapper is his brother's lawful wife. Although no person has a right to drug and abduct their spouse, but how come Ayan know that she drugged and abducted him? All of that happened inside the Ambulance.


He probably saw Arjun in the ambulance or saw him locked up in his room in their apartment.

Agreed, he should have contacted the police. But his judgment might have been clouded because of alcohol and watching his brother get kidnapped in front of his eyes. I never said what Ayan did wasn't wrong, but portraying it as a rape attempt is not right.

"and that kidnapper is his brother's lawful wife"

That is irrelevant.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks

@bold exactly not tear off her clothes and manhandle her 👎🏼

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Posted: 8 years ago
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You pointed out very good things.
He kept repeating weird dialogues, clearly hinting his intentions were not good, but did he actually plan on doing this, i don't know.

Even if the keys were in Maya's clothes, he had no right to rip off her clothes. Moreover, he ripped her clothes where keys wud not be hidden.

Fourth point...so true, how wud v know dt? May be he was getting pleasure out of it or he liked d power he had over Maya, so he crossed his limits.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: HippoSucks


He probably saw Arjun in the ambulance or saw him locked up in his room in their apartment.

Agreed, he should have contacted the police. But his judgment might have been clouded because of alcohol and watching his brother get kidnapped in front of his eyes. I never said what Ayan did wasn't wrong, but portraying it as a rape attempt is not right.

"and that kidnapper is his brother's lawful wife"

That is irrelevant.



Your whole argument is based on probably.

1. He was probably looking for the key
2, He probably saw Arjun in the ambulance
3. His judgement might have been clouded

There is no might or probably in universal definitions of right and wrong.

Manhandling a woman and ripping her clothes, drunk or not, provoked or not, looking for key or not, is unethical, period.

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