Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131 - Page 9

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Posted: 8 years ago
#81
@Mistydawn if Maya dies no one will be sad. Look at the celebrations at Sharma house. No she cannot die. Not until everyone is shown mirror. Yes Arjun wants pent house and luxury, but not a wife. And you are absolutely right. Any sane man would have taken his wife to doctor after the first suicide attempt. Also he doesnt give the reasons why Maya put controls, that part is hidden from Ayan. He only says himself to be the victim.
@Nithu I understood what you told. And that is Maya's problem also. She has been a parent to her mother. It is not normal and that is the only relation she has performed, unlike normal people who are daughters, sisters, then wife and mother. Here child became mother and she mothers everyone even husband.
Arjun is a spoilt brat. Because he never had a mother in true sense who disciplined him. Vandana was just doing his pada pooja so that he accepts her.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#82
@ashpat yes the illusion has to go so that the 9 year old girl Maya can be finally liberated to make her choices the right way.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#83
Hey guys, seeing some really great analysis of the episode. It was really interesting. This may be quite a different one, but I sense a death approaching sometime soon. I know it's morbid, but I truly do. I feel like, if we put Maya, Arjun, Saanjh, Samay and Vandana all together in one elevator, at least one person would be killed. Now I can't say who will do it or who will be the victim, but I know that oil and water don't mix, no matter how much you try to mix them.
There are VERY strong emotions among all of these five characters in the show - all of them are VERY STRONG and have the potential to turn things around. I feel like there is not enough room for all these intense emotions to pervade one single setting/story - one of them will surely be the victim of a murder at the hands of another. I think all have the potential to murder, and all have the potential to be murdered.

Something's definitely gonna happen soon I sense it.

What do you guys think?

P.S. This is just a sense, I have't based it on particular facts or anything.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Post leap all of us have been wondering what has made Arjun the way he is with Maya? He might as well hit Maya and kill her.. Big deal! He badmouths her infront of her, behind her back, wishes she could just die so he doesn't run the risk of getting framed.. How happy will he be if today Maya's plane had crashed and Maya had died ? If you ask me, I'd say he'l be thrilled , over the moon, so much so that it'l probably be difficult for him to even act sad. His face when he sees Maya lifeless on a stretcher in the ambulance.. was he sad? devastated on seeing the woman he may have once loved for whatever reason lie unconscious like that? No he wasn't.. he was annoyed .. his party was ruined.. couldn't she choose some other day to commit suicide and die? atleast that's what I could make of the expressions the actor in question made.. If he was sad anywhere deepdown, then he was sad only for himself.. Arjun the caged bandar who has to dance to Maya's tunes..who doesn't get to eat aaloo ka paratha everyday.. aww poor Arjun is only allowed to drink 2 glasses of wine.. what a shame! So as far as Arjun is concerned.. this is all his complains are based on- a control freak wife who doesn't let him be? puts cctv cameras to monitor him and attempts suicide to emotionally blackmail him to be with her.. and I was thinking there's more to Arjun's story..If this guy really loved Maya at any point like he claims, what was important for him? him getting to fullfill his petty daily needs or UNDERSTAND this woman..why she is the way she is.. for once could he not put his selfish self aside, put his needs aside ( yes yes yes these are basic human fundamental rights ) and try to help her? He should have taken her to a psychiatrist, the very day Maya attempted her first suicide! But I guess, he was too drowned in self pity and frustration of not being to get his freedom, to look past himself as understand that this woman needs help.. she needs him more than ever.. Any man who is or was in love will understand this.. That's why I wonder if Arjun ever was in love with Maya..

Jugadu Arjun loves the easy way.. Pretty girl, loads of money, he falls ( or so he thinks) in love.. actually that was also easy for him... see he didn't even have to woo her coz Maya was madly in love with him already ..😃 again easy way! All was great till he learnt he can not go out and booze whenever he wants, party till 4 in the morning, eat aloo parathas everyday.. dammit! he can not even flirt😡 When the going gets tough, the tough get going.. not Arjun, he runs away😃 To hell with Maya and her sickness.. he now wants Ayaan and Dusky who treat him like Alexander the great, let him drinks.. wah bhai ! yo bhai ! Three years the thought didn't occur to him.. wait, Dusky wasn't there to show him the light.. now she's back..! Yayyy! Use her to get all that back.. so now all the reasons that stopped him from getting back to family are gone? Risk of Maya's suicide and him getting framed? no they are still here but now THE ARJUN , jo kisi se nahi darta has grown a spine called Dusky, has his family to back him.. he knows one jumma chumma dance and a hug will melt their hearts and he will be forgiven of everything he did.. Oh! on Maya's back and in her absence , he can also pose as the caged victim and blame her for everything😃 But he won't answer his dear mother's question- beta ab tu wapis nahi jayega na? '' ooops! wapas to jana padega..! He needs the pent house and car..😳

If only Vandana had embraced Maya with an open heart and open arms like she did for Arjun today.. a happy family, loving mother .. if only she could get all this ..she would have valued it 1000 times more than Arjun has ever valued what he got..

Such an amazing post,every word written is so true
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Posted: 8 years ago
#85

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@Mistydawn if Maya dies no one will be sad. Look at the celebrations at Sharma house. No she cannot die. Not until everyone is shown mirror. Yes Arjun wants pent house and luxury, but not a wife. And you are absolutely right. Any sane man would have taken his wife to doctor after the first suicide attempt. Also he doesnt give the reasons why Maya put controls, that part is hidden from Ayan. He only says himself to be the victim.

@Nithu I understood what you told. And that is Maya's problem also. She has been a parent to her mother. It is not normal and that is the only relation she has performed, unlike normal people who are daughters, sisters, then wife and mother. Here child became mother and she mothers everyone even husband.
Arjun is a spoilt brat. Because he never had a mother in true sense who disciplined him. Vandana was just doing his pada pooja so that he accepts her.


Forget Maya.. we all now know he doesn't love her anymore.. even his apology to Ayaan and his mother did not feel so genuine to me.. yesterday he was like Yo! I have too much ego to apologize twice, so just hug me back and yeah! why did you sell my dhanno? that after Ayaan told him that he had to sell it to buy application form to apply for job! he completely ignored that part.. again today he did one juma chumma dance and expected a hero welcome back home.. not as someone who had voluntarily left his house and family and did not want to go back to the clingy 2 bedroom apartment but as someone who was victim and now is free of Maya's golden cage..Teen saal se kuch nahi khaya! I don't know how audience is supposed to sympathize with this character even after al his sob stories.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Post leap all of us have been wondering what has made Arjun the way he is with Maya? He might as well hit Maya and kill her.. Big deal! He badmouths her infront of her, behind her back, wishes she could just die so he doesn't run the risk of getting framed.. How happy will he be if today Maya's plane had crashed and Maya had died ? If you ask me, I'd say he'l be thrilled , over the moon, so much so that it'l probably be difficult for him to even act sad. His face when he sees Maya lifeless on a stretcher in the ambulance.. was he sad? devastated on seeing the woman he may have once loved for whatever reason lie unconscious like that? No he wasn't.. he was annoyed .. his party was ruined.. couldn't she choose some other day to commit suicide and die? atleast that's what I could make of the expressions the actor in question made.. If he was sad anywhere deepdown, then he was sad only for himself.. Arjun the caged bandar who has to dance to Maya's tunes..who doesn't get to eat aaloo ka paratha everyday.. aww poor Arjun is only allowed to drink 2 glasses of wine.. what a shame! So as far as Arjun is concerned.. this is all his complains are based on- a control freak wife who doesn't let him be? puts cctv cameras to monitor him and attempts suicide to emotionally blackmail him to be with her.. and I was thinking there's more to Arjun's story..If this guy really loved Maya at any point like he claims, what was important for him? him getting to fullfill his petty daily needs or UNDERSTAND this woman..why she is the way she is.. for once could he not put his selfish self aside, put his needs aside ( yes yes yes these are basic human fundamental rights ) and try to help her? He should have taken her to a psychiatrist, the very day Maya attempted her first suicide! But I guess, he was too drowned in self pity and frustration of not being to get his freedom, to look past himself as understand that this woman needs help.. she needs him more than ever.. Any man who is or was in love will understand this.. That's why I wonder if Arjun ever was in love with Maya..

Jugadu Arjun loves the easy way.. Pretty girl, loads of money, he falls ( or so he thinks) in love.. actually that was also easy for him... see he didn't even have to woo her coz Maya was madly in love with him already ..😃 again easy way! All was great till he learnt he can not go out and booze whenever he wants, party till 4 in the morning, eat aloo parathas everyday.. dammit! he can not even flirt😡 When the going gets tough, the tough get going.. not Arjun, he runs away😃 To hell with Maya and her sickness.. he now wants Ayaan and Dusky who treat him like Alexander the great, let him drinks.. wah bhai ! yo bhai ! Three years the thought didn't occur to him.. wait, Dusky wasn't there to show him the light.. now she's back..! Yayyy! Use her to get all that back.. so now all the reasons that stopped him from getting back to family are gone? Risk of Maya's suicide and him getting framed? no they are still here but now THE ARJUN , jo kisi se nahi darta has grown a spine called Dusky, has his family to back him.. he knows one jumma chumma dance and a hug will melt their hearts and he will be forgiven of everything he did.. Oh! on Maya's back and in her absence , he can also pose as the caged victim and blame her for everything😃 But he won't answer his dear mother's question- beta ab tu wapis nahi jayega na? '' ooops! wapas to jana padega..! He needs the pent house and car..😳

If only Vandana had embraced Maya with an open heart and open arms like she did for Arjun today.. a happy family, loving mother .. if only she could get all this ..she would have valued it 1000 times more than Arjun has ever valued what he got..


Well said girl 👏👏👏
You described everything perfectly !!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Samay's reaction are hell confusing; when Maya left, the family hug and that masti part. Was he feeling left out (which I am sure he didn't) or just missing Maya. Both of my assumption looks odd at this point 😕. One thing I am curious why didn't Arjun didn't talk to Maya after that first suicide. Did he really think Maya would stay away from him and that too for three days 😆 dillusion guy
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Posted: 8 years ago
#88
I never feel Arjun loved Maya. He was more in love with the thought tht someone rich n successful like Maya can head over heels in luv with him. and of course he was mostly attracted with life style tht he could enjoy being with Maya. Maya knows this fact very well. thts why she provided him all the luxuries. Does Arjun deserve to be the owner of Maya's company. He was just a photographer. wht quality does he hav to run a company? But Maya gav tht just to control Arjun in her own way. If Maya expects true luv then she shouldnt lure a giddy person like Arjun with money and power. Money cant buy true luv after all.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Post leap all of us have been wondering what has made Arjun the way he is with Maya? He might as well hit Maya and kill her.. Big deal! He badmouths her infront of her, behind her back, wishes she could just die so he doesn't run the risk of getting framed.. How happy will he be if today Maya's plane had crashed and Maya had died ? If you ask me, I'd say he'l be thrilled , over the moon, so much so that it'l probably be difficult for him to even act sad. His face when he sees Maya lifeless on a stretcher in the ambulance.. was he sad? devastated on seeing the woman he may have once loved for whatever reason lie unconscious like that? No he wasn't.. he was annoyed .. his party was ruined.. couldn't she choose some other day to commit suicide and die? atleast that's what I could make of the expressions the actor in question made.. If he was sad anywhere deepdown, then he was sad only for himself.. Arjun the caged bandar who has to dance to Maya's tunes..who doesn't get to eat aaloo ka paratha everyday.. aww poor Arjun is only allowed to drink 2 glasses of wine.. what a shame! So as far as Arjun is concerned.. this is all his complains are based on- a control freak wife who doesn't let him be? puts cctv cameras to monitor him and attempts suicide to emotionally blackmail him to be with her.. and I was thinking there's more to Arjun's story..If this guy really loved Maya at any point like he claims, what was important for him? him getting to fullfill his petty daily needs or UNDERSTAND this woman..why she is the way she is.. for once could he not put his selfish self aside, put his needs aside ( yes yes yes these are basic human fundamental rights ) and try to help her? He should have taken her to a psychiatrist, the very day Maya attempted her first suicide! But I guess, he was too drowned in self pity and frustration of not being to get his freedom, to look past himself as understand that this woman needs help.. she needs him more than ever.. Any man who is or was in love will understand this.. That's why I wonder if Arjun ever was in love with Maya..

Jugadu Arjun loves the easy way.. Pretty girl, loads of money, he falls ( or so he thinks) in love.. actually that was also easy for him... see he didn't even have to woo her coz Maya was madly in love with him already ..😃 again easy way! All was great till he learnt he can not go out and booze whenever he wants, party till 4 in the morning, eat aloo parathas everyday.. dammit! he can not even flirt😡 When the going gets tough, the tough get going.. not Arjun, he runs away😃 To hell with Maya and her sickness.. he now wants Ayaan and Dusky who treat him like Alexander the great, let him drinks.. wah bhai ! yo bhai ! Three years the thought didn't occur to him.. wait, Dusky wasn't there to show him the light.. now she's back..! Yayyy! Use her to get all that back.. so now all the reasons that stopped him from getting back to family are gone? Risk of Maya's suicide and him getting framed? no they are still here but now THE ARJUN , jo kisi se nahi darta has grown a spine called Dusky, has his family to back him.. he knows one jumma chumma dance and a hug will melt their hearts and he will be forgiven of everything he did.. Oh! on Maya's back and in her absence , he can also pose as the caged victim and blame her for everything😃 But he won't answer his dear mother's question- beta ab tu wapis nahi jayega na? '' ooops! wapas to jana padega..! He needs the pent house and car..😳

If only Vandana had embraced Maya with an open heart and open arms like she did for Arjun today.. a happy family, loving mother .. if only she could get all this ..she would have valued it 1000 times more than Arjun has ever valued what he got..


WORD!! WORD!! WORD!! 😃👏.. Agree with everything...I think I am inspired to make a post on this now. 😃


The last para is bang on..IF ONLY Vandana had not behaved the way she did, EVERYONE would have got what they always wanted, Maya - a happy, loving family, Arjun-A beautiful wife, money, success, power AND a happy, loving marriage, Vandana- A Dil who would have truly brought happiness to her house, Ayan and Saanjh- A new best friend..Alas!!!

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Posted: 8 years ago
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@sweetshruti- Please do! I would love to read your thoughts on the current scenario including Samay. He is trying to make Maya believe that he can be exactly what she wants Arjun to be.. under her control, dedicated to her and only her but Maya repels him and I feel Arjun is not the only reason. She doesn't trust him ( he cheated her in business/love??) .. that expression on her face when Samay was going on and on about how worthy she is.. her face was like yeah wateva I don't trust one word. That vulnerability of Samay infront of Maya in contrast to the weird almost sinister smirk when she leaves like he knows Maya in and out.. If that's the case shouldn't he know that the more ill he talks of Arjun, the more Maya is gonna hate him? why would he want that? I like the mystery aura around this guy..
Edited by MistyDawn - 8 years ago

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