Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131 - Page 8

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Posted: 8 years ago
#71
Couple of observations. Ayan gives flying kiss to Saanjh, Saanjh gives to Simi, but Simi throws it away. Saanjh needs to understand she cannot be between a man and a woman. Some relations are sacred and is between 2 people. But I feel her placement once again shows she will come between Ayan and Simi.
Also Samay tells he will take poison for Maya, if that is the case to nullify its effect on Arjun someone else has to take poison for him. Who will do that. 😃
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Posted: 8 years ago
#72
@Shruthi, these days its become my habit to check out ur thread before goseeing the show!!
I am loving Samay. I am waiting for the variable Y to connect with the girl S 😊 without vitamin M 😆

Wont Saanjh by default be the girl to stop Arjuns poison? Or will it be Maya again?

So tell me.. will Samay be positive or negative for Maya? Where is Ganesha now in this game? I think Arjun or Saanjh are the killers

Anyone but SaYa lol.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#73
@poppins wait for the veil to lift. Saanjh will be a medium, but it can be only Maya. Remember the boat symbolism in island. Maya doesnt know to swim, but she takes the boat. Samay at this point I can say will place all the players correctly breaking every perceptions. He is grey. He should be positive for Maya the girl, but negative for Maya the illusion.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Thanks aditi. As I said I love analyzing the 11th day till 14th day of MB. It is really something. If the CVs does it right, the moment the dance ends it will be awe inspiring moment. Even I am not sure what it will be.

People intercept my analysis as Arya in the end. But I told in another post it is not about Arya, for me it is the child Maya winning against a man called Ashwin. This man has destroyed the child. I can see innate goodness in Maya. There are many instances in the show it has come out. But then all that is clouded by her insecurity which leads her to do all the manipulations. Lack of self belief, lack of self worth, sense of powerlessness everything is hidden under that facade of Maya the woman. A woman scary of her past. Unless she faces it, she cannot win over it. But then on the other side stands society that judges her without understanding her journey. Forcing her to go back again and again to her manipulative methods. What she needs is self belief, feeling of self worth. Every human being needs love and affection Aditi. That is not in words, but in action. Let atleast one person's action show Maya that love exists in its purest form. Else it will be her destruction. Ashwin's victory. All other mahan characters will also win. That will be a wrong message. Only the Ashwin in Maya needs to be destroyed, the 9 year old child has to be preserved. To do that the battle is darkest.

@ashpat Arjun will have to come for her. Because most probably the final battle only he can win for her.


Bold - so true ... she has much more goodness in her, than any character.. she's true to all her relations, daughter, wife, friend, she even burnt her hands for Saanjh but Saanjh disappointed her. Arjun didn't live up to her expectations, Jhanvi was a failure... I am not seeing anyone in this show capable of showing what true luv is, to Maya. If possible it can be Samay or maybe Saanjh or maybe Ayaan. But all have have already disappointed us.

Sometimes self realisation comes when we are abt to lose our loved ones. So that also can be true, Jab tak hai jaan types maybe when Maya decides to leave arjun for his safety.. please don't laugh anyone, just a speculation 😆😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

5/4/2017

Interesting episode.Before going to Maya and Samay, I want to look at time and illusions. Ayan says after taking alchohol you have to speak truth. Arjun talks about all his experience with Maya. Her controls. Her suicide attempts everything. So now the basic question is, does a person tells truth under alchohol. If yes, then Arjun doesnt love Maya, he had married her for money and luxury, he loves Saanjh, given an oppourtunity he will keep her as mistress and have the luxury Maya offers.
If it is not, then what Arjun speaking about Maya's controls is not. It cannot be Maya's control true and others wrong or vica versa. We know about Maya's controls and her suicide attempts, so Arjun doesnt love Maya? he loves Saanjh but needs Maya's luxury? people can answer themselves.Time has a way of bringing up the truth. Now look at Ayan. Now Bhabi is bad for him, but he is the same one who has heard the other truth also, that go and get a rich girl and lure her into marriage. In judgement he forgots the first part. I am not talking about other parts now, I will slowly open up as and when CVs unravel things.

Now let me come to Samay and Maya. Maya tells no one can snatch the rights she has given to Arjun. As she goes Samay smiles. Maya has come out of Samay's test with flying colors. He says yes there is a girl for whom he can break legs and drink poison. Saanjh thinks it is her. But it is not. Samay is very clear for whom he is willing to put himself in line of fire. That girl is Maya. The love and loyalty Maya expects from a guy only Samay can give that, the love and loyalty a man expects from a woman only Maya can give. Saanjh has chosen Arjun when Samay gave her the test. It was after her choice he went for Maya. He had tried to see if Saanjh can be distracted from Arjun. By switching of TV, by putting pakodas. No in Saanjh's thoughts it was Arjun and Maya, so he allowed her, then went behind Maya.

Now look at the happy family. Yes everyone is enjoying. Vandana is happy. Her son has come back. Dancing, making chappatis. Samay observes. Yes he is physically present in the occasion, but yet he is not. He is with Maya. He is not part of this group. Now you will see more and more such things where Samay will be dangerously playing on threshold, till the veil lifts.

Coming to Vandana. Arjun tells Saanjh taught him to break the barriers, not to build barriers, Vandana is very happy. Same thing Maya did 3 years back. She was afraid. Why. Saanjh couldnt break barriers for 20 years, Maya broke it in a night. That day also Arjun left her alone in the terrace. If people say it happened by chance. What is so great about Saanjh now. It also happened by chance. Because Arjun was fed up with Maya and was looking an escape route, which he found in Saanjh.

If Maya does it is Kaala Saaya, Saanjh does it is mahanta. Isnt it because you expect Saanjh to do it. Time is ensuring all expectations are met. First Vandana's expectation is met. Saanjh the great bahu has bought her son home. Enjoy VM. I am also enjoying.

Dance of time and illusion is going very beautifully. Slowly putting the variables in place while the players are busy in their own world thinking what they know is the truth.


Hey, I don't think that Samay was ever serious about Saanjh. I think the show made it evident that Samay has come into Saanjh's life only in search of Maya. The fact that he is so passionate and serious about Maya and has had a past relationship with her indicates that he is only in love with her. Also, when Maya and Samay first came face to face, Samay said that he has been trying to reunite/been in love with Maya for 8 years. I don't think he was testing Saanjh, because he was never in love with her in the first place.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#76
@aditi if only she protects Arjun when he needs her the most Maya will be able to defeat Ashwin. For that she has to take risk, maybe risk of her life.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#77
@Beyhadhlover I am not talking about Samay the man, I am talking about Samay the time. I have put in the beginning post itself, analysis in this thread will be at two levels. One between Samay the man and Maya the woman and other between Samay and Maya ie Time and illusions. I will try to differentiate both, but at times they might be joined together.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@poppins wait for the veil to lift. Saanjh will be a medium, but it can be only Maya. Remember the boat symbolism in island. Maya doesnt know to swim, but she takes the boat. Samay at this point I can say will place all the players correctly breaking every perceptions. He is grey. He should be positive for Maya the girl, but negative for Maya the illusion.


So you think the negative Samay will break the illusion Maya and the leftover will the normal girl whom he loves?
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Posted: 8 years ago
#79
Post leap all of us have been wondering what has made Arjun the way he is with Maya? He might as well hit Maya and kill her.. Big deal! He badmouths her infront of her, behind her back, wishes she could just die so he doesn't run the risk of getting framed.. How happy will he be if today Maya's plane had crashed and Maya had died ? If you ask me, I'd say he'l be thrilled , over the moon, so much so that it'l probably be difficult for him to even act sad. His face when he sees Maya lifeless on a stretcher in the ambulance.. was he sad? devastated on seeing the woman he may have once loved for whatever reason lie unconscious like that? No he wasn't.. he was annoyed .. his party was ruined.. couldn't she choose some other day to commit suicide and die? atleast that's what I could make of the expressions the actor in question made.. If he was sad anywhere deepdown, then he was sad only for himself.. Arjun the caged bandar who has to dance to Maya's tunes..who doesn't get to eat aaloo ka paratha everyday.. aww poor Arjun is only allowed to drink 2 glasses of wine.. what a shame! So as far as Arjun is concerned.. this is all his complains are based on- a control freak wife who doesn't let him be? puts cctv cameras to monitor him and attempts suicide to emotionally blackmail him to be with her.. and I was thinking there's more to Arjun's story..If this guy really loved Maya at any point like he claims, what was important for him? him getting to fullfill his petty daily needs or UNDERSTAND this woman..why she is the way she is.. for once could he not put his selfish self aside, put his needs aside ( yes yes yes these are basic human fundamental rights ) and try to help her? He should have taken her to a psychiatrist, the very day Maya attempted her first suicide! But I guess, he was too drowned in self pity and frustration of not being to get his freedom, to look past himself as understand that this woman needs help.. she needs him more than ever.. Any man who is or was in love will understand this.. That's why I wonder if Arjun ever was in love with Maya..
Jugadu Arjun loves the easy way.. Pretty girl, loads of money, he falls ( or so he thinks) in love.. actually that was also easy for him... see he didn't even have to woo her coz Maya was madly in love with him already ..😃 again easy way! All was great till he learnt he can not go out and booze whenever he wants, party till 4 in the morning, eat aloo parathas everyday.. dammit! he can not even flirt😡 When the going gets tough, the tough get going.. not Arjun, he runs away😃 To hell with Maya and her sickness.. he now wants Ayaan and Dusky who treat him like Alexander the great, let him drinks.. wah bhai ! yo bhai ! Three years the thought didn't occur to him.. wait, Dusky wasn't there to show him the light.. now she's back..! Yayyy! Use her to get all that back.. so now all the reasons that stopped him from getting back to family are gone? Risk of Maya's suicide and him getting framed? no they are still here but now THE ARJUN , jo kisi se nahi darta has grown a spine called Dusky, has his family to back him.. he knows one jumma chumma dance and a hug will melt their hearts and he will be forgiven of everything he did.. Oh! on Maya's back and in her absence , he can also pose as the caged victim and blame her for everything😃 But he won't answer his dear mother's question- beta ab tu wapis nahi jayega na? '' ooops! wapas to jana padega..! He needs the pent house and car..😳

If only Vandana had embraced Maya with an open heart and open arms like she did for Arjun today.. a happy family, loving mother .. if only she could get all this ..she would have valued it 1000 times more than Arjun has ever valued what he got..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#80
@shruti di superb post again.
All I have to say is whatever arjun is complaining abt maya r all so silly accusations.
All he said was she doesn't like me to eat this, doesn't want me drink, takes too much care of me, etc.,
And I don't think these are major problems that a person will want to leave the other person who's asking him to do these.
Some of us have parents like these who always tells eat this, eat that, dp this ,do that but young understand them and play deaf ear & smile, understand their superstitious beliefs. So do we leave our parents for that ?
Did u get my point ? I hope u got it.
Actually arjun is a person who doesn't want a family like thing but always to be free and use people when needed and talk when he wants to.
He isn't capable of maya's health & her wellness & to take her to some doc but all he wanted in the first place after knowing himself being subjected to Beyhadh pyar was "just leave". Is this what a lover who really loves does ? Or a husband shud do??
So much of natak gng on by VM & saanjh co . But it felt disgusting for me.
The same thing when maya did she was not okay bcz now it's her saanjh she's giving looks like she gives to some goddess.
Arjun just loves maya's wealth but not her I'm sure today.
I hope samay gives everyone a lesson to learn & he shows everyone mirror of their acts & what those acts brought them.

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