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Posted: 8 years ago

#591

@shruthiravi, exactly. There must be a difference. It should not be in words, not just for for show, it must be tangible, meaningful. What makes Dusky better than Maya? Nothing. What makes Duffer, VM, Ayan better? Nothing. These so-called human mistakes - oh well, these are just usual excuses. I want to see what they are better. And I don't see that. I'm not looking for ideal people in them, I don't demand unreal impracticable or impossible, I want to see people. Not so much even good people as normal people who at least try to be good, and not just hypocritically pretend to be them. Moreover, these so-called normal sane good people don't miss any opportunity, not a single chance to make Maya's life worse, much more worse, each time to make her life even worse than Maya's life was before. Even Samay - his character is terrible, but he doesn't hide it. He doesn't pretend to be perfect, nor ideal, nor good, nor normal nor sane - he's mad, he's obsessed with Maya, he wants to get Maya at any price, and doesn't hide it. Even he looks better on their background

@FactFictionMyth, I really hope for a non-standard finale. I don't need unreal love or an unreal happy ending, and it doesn't matter what kind of couple - SaJun or ArYa in this case. I don't need neither one thing nor the other. I need sense. I need not broken resurrected character Maya Mehrotra. Where did everyone go, what went through and to what they came to

Sweety-sweety happy-end which don't make any sense and only destroy the whole story as a whole it's not my cup of tea

Final isn't always a happy end. Happy-end isn't always "after all the misery they lived happily ever after"

Final has so many variations, not just some typical things

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#592

27/07/17

Dusky. Look, Dusky, you mocked mentally ill people. Deceived their trust. You're smarter than these people, although you're not smarter, you just meanly exploited their condition. You got to your goal - Maya's room, but there's nothing in it. The first time you still manage to play and deceive the nurse. But now you can't cope with this man. You hear desired Maya mad, Maya wrote some notes, and you just ask to show you these notes. Ops, Dusky, you're disclosed. How did you decide that this person will give you notes just for nothing? You deceived mentally ill people, but this man isn't mad, he works here. He asks for money in exchange for information (2 lakh for a pile of sheets on which Duffer is written or does he have something else?) He revealed you. You want to call Duffer. He catches you. You don't deserve trust, welcome to real world. And he says he'll make you really mad. Ops, it's easy to scream that someone is mad and send him to a psychiatric hospital - stay here, live, feel it. Do you know what happens behind closed doors? There can happen any things, in hospitals very different people work, and the facade can be any, even ideal. You wanted to be in Maya's place, the cooking process began. Make yourself comfortable

And you know, Dusky, show a drop of compassion to these mentally ill people, listen to their pain, they would have heard you, they could have told you something. As, for example, to Maya told that girl from the next room

Duffer still wanders around hospital, drinking tea with a guard. No, he didn't worry about his wife and child, didn't watch in windows, didn't rush to the doctor with pleas, to let him stay with her or take her home, no. He was sitting in a cozy, light, comfortable office and wining in waistcoat his madness as he was hard and suffering. Kill him somebody!

Although it seems he can be killed by his madness, because he doesn't think about security at all, doesn't think that he can be discovered and then it will not end with anything good

Samay tells how he survived. Time has played with illusion for a long time. Time knows how to play in this game. An interesting story, Samay, - love didn't let you die, you repeated her name, and even death could not take you away from her, but perhaps I will still put it under very big doubt. You knew she would not shoot...

Maya. The gun is pointed directly at you. You are looking for an opportunity, but he notices your movement. Shot. He can't kill you. You kill him, good game, Samay. Maya takes the gun. My little bad&mad baby girl. Samay gives you a gun - shoot. Shots once. This ghost doesn't allow you to live. He always appears again and again in your life. Kill this past. Get rid of mistake. One shot. And you shoot near. A little frightened entangled beyhadh girl or not beyhadh or beyhadh in something else... She's still there. Still frightened still entangled. Samay loves you so much. Duffer betrayed you (many many times, by the way) Do you believe him?.. You lost...

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Sana

@AlexP927

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Posted: 8 years ago

#593

all these innocent people n they lack the tiniest empathy in them. VM with her sob story never showed any compassion n saanjh who is a lawyer - who fight for justice ryt? - ddnt show any empathy for maya or even try to understand her...they all jus labelled her as bad and mad n thats it...no one heard her voice rather they heard ashwin...n why? for stupid arjun who cant evn make his own life decisions...

its jus pathetic...i used to try very hard to understand every character's position...n i used to still feel bad for duffer n dusky but nw its jus getting annoying...

as for maya, i think she will use samay, but not in a way we expect, the deceit stuff has already happened, so either the actual hatred thing is going to start now, or shes going to use samay to get herself out of this mess cuz clearly samay is a waaay better lawyer than saanjh...with the few episodes left i jushope they dnt drag next week lik they did with dis week...altho since they dragged the chasing n detectivgiri this week, i think next week the plot will move a bit forward...(hopefully)

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#594

@laska look at the lines of Samay. When maya is behind Samay or if ur behind Samay, samay wins.if u walk with Samay Maya goes truth emerges.Once u accept the truth, then power comes.this is Maya journey. Alone with time. It looks time is with u.But if u go one step behind time leaves u. It is a lone journey where there is no win no loss only truth and through it power. Samay doesn't look at friend or enemy. It only looks at truth.

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#595

@AlexP927, it is always simpler and easier to hang a label on someone than to try to understand. What shocked most of all in VM is who she believed, and it's not even about Maya. VM believed someone who had stolen her, who had put a sack on her head, dragged her in closed garage and where he started frighten, I don't know how much she must be craving for Maya to be bad&mad to believe such a person. Dusky takes sides on Holy, and yells with fury that the VM was right, again, okay Maya. But in this case, just take and deny everything that happened before in her eyes, only because she herself has made uncounted number of mistakes in relation to the person whom she claimed her friend, and wanting to blame her - this is just super-brazen

I have long ceased to seek sympathy and conscience in these people. I can't find in them even usual normal sane inhabitants of usual normal sane society

Duffer is a whole extravaganza of hypocrisy

I have long tried to get to each of them, to understand each of them , but it's just impossible

@shruthiravi, if person always looks back, then he lives by the past. If all the time looking only forward, then he lives in the future. Time will win in both cases - the past is distorted with time, the future is only an illusion. The present is what is given now

When Duffer returned the "gifts" to Maya and almost lost his job, he told Dusky that if he listened to her, he would definitely lose his job

Now Duffer listening Dusky...

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#596

28/07/17

Dusky. Now I am already tormented by vague doubts how many films she looked too? There is a strong feeling that she watched only cartoons that are designed for children no older than 6 years. "Nothing will happen. I will not be caught" Once again - fewer words, more work, Dusky. By the way, Dusky, that's when you grabbed and threw the tripod, it was your plan, huh

Samay told you everything straight in the face, the whole truth. But you continue to invent your own truth and repeat it

Duffer of course saved Dusky. Although it seems Dusky must to save Duffer, no? Although what a difference

And Duffer and Dusky ask who the worker called. In this world there are no names. In this world there is only the language of money. Only benefit language. Only the language of the deal. And, yes, promises don't work here, even pinky promises or any else. You both always say how clever you are, and where? A lawyer who watched a huge number of films, or still the world of fairies and unicorns was so fascinating that besides it there is nothing in Dusky's head?

"Only one person can wish to see us in trouble. Maya" give someone this girl a dictionary or something. I have a feeling that in her vocabulary there is only one word left - Maya. For everything that's going on, Dusky has only one answer - Maya

Duffer is calling. He will find Maya in any darkness. Wow, what an unexpected turn - Duffer is ready to go in any darkness, Duffer is ready to go to evil's side. It is very funny. It's really very funny. When Maya asked for help when she asked to save the child, the only thing Duffer could give back was the promise that he would wave his handkerchief, as an identification mark, from good's side. Then he didn't want to find Maya, see darkness, evil or something else. And now Duffer yearns to get to Maya. Duffer never aspired to his beloved Maya, nor to his wife, nor to the mother of the child, as he now aspires to bad&mad Maya. He didn't seek to give her life, every time leading up her to death, and now aspires to bring her death. Funny, really funny. You don't even see Maya, you don't see that she is disheveled, you don't see dirt, but as always, what can talk about hearing and understanding something more than on the surface. Well, what else can be expect from Duffer

And how does Duffer get furious when Maya turns off the phone. It also wass funny

Maya. In front of you Rajiv. This is his game. And Duffer will never be able to change it. Rajiv prepared everything for your victory. Dusky will not die, Dusky will suffer, and Duffer will suffer seeing Dusky in this condition. Shock. Where, whose plans. Where and what started, where and what ended. A little frightened confused girl who always did something, always something terrible and big, always deliberately, and everything that was done with this girl, was always nothing...

Duffer today with Dusky too. Maya is alone. As if he had ever been with you. He betrayed many times, countless times. And even in this he betrayed

No one ever understands time - if you run ahead of time, you lose. If you lag behind time, you lose

And Maya takes hand of time...

Separate endless ovations Jenny.👏👏👏 Jenny just inimitable👏👏👏 Piyush is also too good

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#597

@Laska what interested me was Rajiv's dialogues which is wrapped into Samay. Maya says will you kill Saanjh. Silence. Rajiv will you allow your Maya to be defeated. Answer. No one has understood time, walk with time, if you walk ahead, time is behind and this is said in slow, then the next line if you walk behind , then you will be always behind and this is loud and clear. If the girl Maya has to win, she has to walk with time, understanding time and standing in front of time to catch up with her. Vision, visionary, only that can defeat power of time, change power, bring victory, constructive ideas and overall sustenance of life. The one who has the vision, the world belongs to him/her.

The answer was quirky, not straight, but it told everything a learner can quickly grasp. Samay doesnt walk with anyone, Samay is not in the control of anyone, if you want Samay you have to walk with Samay with vision.

I was like 👏👏👏. I was waiting for this. Maya take the hand of time and walk with time, a path in which Arjun will find your truth. 😆😆😆

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#598

@shruthiravi, Samay said that he will not kill Dusky, but will give her such a shock that she will suffer a lifetime

And I must say, if Dusky learns Maya's truth, it will be a great shock for her. She may even go real mad. After all, sab Maya hai. Sab Maya hai

Samay brought to Maya red and yellow, Maya chose yellow for Duffer. "You will come to me, but it will be too late. Very very late"

And on Daffer's path stood Samay

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Laska

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Posted: 8 years ago

#599

31/07/17

Dusky will tell the police that this is all Maya's plan, go ahead, tell them a couple more fairy-tales before going to bed. This extra-super-special friend, a super-mega lawyer never learned the word of proof. "We must surrender" Dusky, you're kidding, he'll actually be hanged then. It's nothing, right? It doesn't matter? Your words were "to risk everything and anything" and then immediately backed out. If you are involved in such a non-children's serious game, then act like an adult person. Duffer doesn't have a way back, it's not for you to offer him to quit his job at your whim

Escape one is funnier than another. But okay. Duffer found a way out - sewage. Great - come on, Duffer go where you sent your wife. Feel this life, enjoy it in full. To you and Dusky the place is there. It's a pity that they shoot it completely unrealistic - they climbed out of the sewers, as if they had taken a walk in the park. While Duffer is looking for a way out and opportunities, Dusky rolls hysterics. Dusky calls him Duffer, but it's her brain doesn't work at all. However, as before, when she ran with another portion of the truth about bad &mad Maya that Duffer always knew

Shubh also doesn't stand aside. Duffer believes that Shubh has brains, Dusky believes that Shubh can't even find underwear without help. This is what Dusky always did with Duffer - she upbringing Duffer from him, a brainless helpless creature that uncapable to anything

That's exactly what you can't doubt, it's in Duffer's hatred. It's just literally the engine, and Dusky with regular consistency is filling it

Mayan. Look, you just took Samay's hand recently and already accepted that Maya and Duffer have different ways. This is already great progress in our difficult case, will see, maybe little more time with Samay and you will understand that the destinations you have different too

How was it? Hug the last time, and with great love to stop his breathing - this would be the best finale. Even more beautiful - your destination is love, his - hatred

01/08/17

Suman is unbeliveable. It's interesting, but this lady still not earned for imprisonment for insulting policemen in the performance of their official duties?

But the inspector has brains. He saw the point on the map. Dusky crossed all limits in the police station, and Duffer poured oil on the fire with his escape. I hope the inspector will recoup them for the full program

Jhanvi in Mathur's house. Finally, Jhanvi reached her destination - among the hypocrites, it's her the very place. She may even become their leader

Well, Duffer and Dusky are searching and pursuing Maya on Maya's money. Cool! Duffer's escape, of course, was also paid by Maya's money. Unreal cool!

What satisfied Dusky's face was in the car, when Duffer says he will not leave Maya, yes, this sweety-sweety girl only on emotions said "You should have let her fall" yeah

How Duffer aspires to Maya "and just a little bit, and he will not miss the chance, and no one will stand between them" No, he didn't aspire to his beloved Maya, he didn't aspire to his wife, he didn't aspire to Child's mother, and didn't even aspire to the child how he yearns to get to bad&mad Maya baby. A surprising straightforward paradox

Duffer and Dusky are looking for Maya on the market. Two people walk the streets, showing Maya's photos, and saying that this girl stole something from them. Two people who literally stole everything from Maya, go and say she stole from them. Again total cool!

Duffer faces Maya and says that he felt Maya's presence. Dusky's smile literally demolish from the face. It's funny. However, he felt Maya's presence - what the heck? Go to hell with this felt presence, understand?!

And Duffer missed Maya, and she just second ago was in his hands. Keyword - WAS! Dusky distracted you. Don't get distracted, Duffer, don't get distracted. But alas, alas, near you your Dusky, and you will distracte again

A note in pocket. Bus. Recording on the cassette. Duffer follows Maya step by step. Funny, funny and fun again

And Duffer left Dusky in the middle of the road, behind, alone, because he saw Maya. He saw Maya and forgot about Dusky. Dusky, you wanted so much to be at Maya's place, welcome, enjoy it! The cooking process looks very exciting, I must say!

Maya gets off the bus. Yes, it's really funny. Maya wants Dusky's death or?...

Maya doesn't deserve Duffer's love. Who would to you, Duffer, say what you deserve. You definitely don't deserve Maya! You definitely don't deserve anything except the ghosts of the past and the eternal scorched desert of the present!

Hypocrisy swells every second to bigger and bigger, to just incredible sizes. A little more and it will absorb the whole world

How want to see their total fatal fall - Duffer, Dusky, Jhanvi, Suman and even Shubh. Their agony. Eternal agony in a frying pan in the heart of merciless hell

The question of the century - when Duffer was going to return Maya from the psychiatric hospital, he said he make Maya fall in love with him again. This means that Maya's love in the psychiatric hospital has become less, or rather has been discolored or burnt or buried. Duffer didn't love Maya. Only pretended to be supposedly for the sake of the child. And, if Maya doesn't love Duffer, then the child is again safe, because Maya doesn't care about to what, his or someone else's, Dusky will go Duffer, whether he will leave and whether he will return or not. Question 1 is the same - why Duffer took Maya out of the psychiatric hospital. Question 2 - why did he want to make Maya fall in love with him again, considering all the above circumstances?

By the way, once again he get it only by freebie. How much more? Always and everything only by freebie

Maya said that no one will stand between Maya and Duffer. Words about the child in this line inserted Ayan...

The last hug. Take his last breath away with a lot of love. With Duffer's death, Maya's new life. Her destination is love. His destination is hatred. Poison time. Between Duffer and May only Maya can stand. And many many others. Sad look at the shelves. Everything ashes

The final in any case will be a total fatal disaster

At least now can enjoy current events. Maya has her own agenda. Rajiv has his own agenda. Maya has her own agenda. Samay has his own agenda😆😆😆

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shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#600

Good analysis Laska. In Monday episode Dusky was screaming like they were playing video game. Enough, enough let us stop and go back 😆😆. She has been fed up by Maya's first dinner course itself.

Yesterday did Suman think Inspector was fool, I was happy he got the info. Also unlike the inspector in season 1, this inspector was quite factual. He build the case on the facts he found only. And at this point in front of him is a convicted criminal and a woman who helped him on the run. If Suman knows half the law she will understand it. But they wont, because for them their Arjun and Saanjh are doodh peetha bacha whom Maya trapped.

And the best scene Dusky's smile fading when Arjun says he felt Maya. I wanted to 🤣🤣. Girl come out of the fairyland. Arjun-Maya is hus-wife and obviously Arjun has not remained a brahmachari in your memory in that marriage 😆. He will know when he touches his wife. Get over it Dusky. Even if you get, you are going to get second hand piece only 😆😆

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