Is it wrong to try to woo one love

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kavita

@kavitha_r

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Posted: 8 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: lumos_31

Arjun will do what Maya wants. 'Maya is trying to attract him, and theres nothing wrong in that' is contradicting what u just said. If Arjun has to fall in love with her, Maya should not get insecure abt saanjh, should not play mind games with Arjun. Thats not called trying to attract its called making somebody forcefully tu rn towards u albeit not in a literal sense. And if u think that is right, then I don't know what ur definitions of right n wrong are.

Addressing the TM, this is not called wooing in anyway. Wooing would be showing Arjun ur real self, but here maya is trying to present herself aa somebody she is not. She is top to toe an illusion, a facade. She wants Arjun to see only those thi gs abt her that she wants to show him. And such a love doesn't really last. Whose basis is on lies and deceit.

in other soaps, it is the hero who tries these things to impress the heroine. What do you say 4 that? Arjun has not committed to anyone. But all Sanjh fans feel that Maya is manipulating, which is baseless. As for his distancing from his family, Arjun never gave the rights of a mother to Vandana and she is really behaving like a step-mother by not asking Arjun what he wants. He does not even know that Sanjh loves her. Sanjh has also not confessed her feelings 4 him. If it was Ayaan, Vandana would have cared for his likes and dislikes because he is her own son. Arjun is right by not giving her the rights as a mother. She is in a way utilizing Sanjh to get him to track assuming that he loves Sanjh.

Maya never played any games with Arjun. If she had to play games, she would have done that a way back. She is bold enough to confess her feelings 4 Arjun. She has also given him the time to give his decision. She never behaved like a possessive girlfriend or a nagging and a bossy wife.

if Arjun is drifting away from Sanjh & his family, these 3 ladies namely Vandana, Suman & Sanjh are responsible for it because of their controlling nature. If Sanjh really loves him, she has to understand that Arjun has got his own life. He isn't a kid to be told who is good & who is bad.

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kavita

@kavitha_r

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Posted: 8 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: tanvismile
Saanjh blows up everytime he spends time with Maya

But then what should saanjh do?

He spends time with Maya from morning 10 to 9 in the night .After that also he goes mid night session for ice creams.When Maya said there is no ice cream at home.It's ok I will stay awake and work.Arjun melts down .He is too naive in certain matters and saanjh knows that.
He even lied to her on lunch ...he could have asked that collegue to talk to saanjh ...can I borrow your friend for today ?

Thirdly the only person who questions arjun in Sharma house is saanjh.When the boxes arrived , vandana called saanjh.So that itself shows what is saanjh position in their lives.

Lastly Maya has invaded in their personal spaces so they object Maya like taking to their shanti spot .

It's arjun s mistake since he should where to draw a line.

Arjun is unaware that Sanjh loves him. He too has never proposed to Sanjh or committed himself to her. on what basis he should draw the line for Maya as far as Shanti spot is concerned? If he has lied to Sanjh, she alone is the reason for it. Sanjh does Maya jaap & pisses off Arjun.

No one would like to listen to those lectures & that is quite natural.

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tanvismile

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Posted: 8 years ago

#23

Originally posted by: katrinasalman

Arjun is unaware that Sanjh loves him. He too has never proposed to Sanjh or committed himself to her. on what basis he should draw the line for Maya as far as Shanti spot is concerned? If he has lied to Sanjh, she alone is the reason for it. Sanjh does Maya jaap& pisses off Arjun.

No one would like to listen to those lectures & that is quite natural.

When I say drawing a line means

I share a relationship be it friendship I wouldn't like certain aspects to be shared with third person.Saanjh need not be gf for that.

Nways if you feel sanjh vandana suman are at fault while arjun and Maya are innocent .It's perfectly fine .

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Nithunavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#24

@tanvismile
What did saanjh has seen in Maya that she calls her dangerous ?
What had she known abt her that she's judging her ?
Saanjh is insecure though she knows arjun doesn't live her. She wants to try her luck as much as Maya. She's trying all ways to make Maya away from arjun life bcoz she fears arjun might fall in love with Maya. she's insecure.
Even Maya is doing the same she too doesn't like saanjh in arjun life.
Any girl doesn't like that her love has some other girl as frnd.
And coming to maya invading their personal space.
If Maya wasn't the one who invaded in their personal problems & helped ayan to come out of that case then the consequences wud be really bad.
She never invaded in their personal space & never talked abt this family as much as jaap of Maya calling her all kinda chudail these 3 ladies do day in & night.

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1086943

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Posted: 8 years ago

#25

No she isn't ---- so far she hasn't manipulated him to fall for her ---- !!!

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kavita

@kavitha_r

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Posted: 8 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: tanvismile

When I say drawing a line means

I share a relationship be it friendship I wouldn't like certain aspects to be shared with third person.Saanjh need not be gf for that.

Nways if you feel sanjh vandana suman are at fault while arjun and Maya are innocent .It's perfectly fine .

A friend does not have has much right as a loves has got over that person. Arjun has never given that right to Sanjh so why should she overreact? I don't simply say that Vandana, Suman, and Sanjh are responsible for it. There is definitely a reason behind it. If there are too many conditions and restriction in a house or a family, this is what will happen. The more you hold a person, the more he or she will try to run away. That is what is happening in Arjun's case.

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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

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Posted: 8 years ago

#27

I think it is not possible to convince people for anything over here. Binge justifications about Maya are not going to chang ethe fact that she is wrong in what she is doing. And justifications about Saanjh are not going to change the fact that she does get clingy.

When people term Maya as wrong, it is solely based on her actions, and the same goes with Saanjh. But, there is a difference in the two sides of this discussion. When I say Maya is wrong, I do not say Saanjh is right in being clingy or possessive. But we also need to remember that Saanjh is, after all a human being. She is bound to react in the way she is reacting. But speaking against her for reacting this way and terming Maya's actions as smart is hypocrisy. Because both are wrong her. Saanjh for being clingy, and Maya for manipulating Arjun. And they are wrong because the characters are humans just like all of us. Maya has a reason to behave/act this way and if we are mature enough to understand that n empathize with her, then I think we shouldnt criticise saanjh for her actions. Because she too, is not doing this without reason.

And for people justifying Maya, I agree with u all, shes handling Arjun smartly, shes giving arjun space, blah blah. But it is this that is going to cost her, just the way Saanjh warning Arjun is going to cost Saanjh their friendship. Logically speaking Saanjh Arjun is the end game, not ArYa.

Definitely not unless Arjun knows the truth n then falls in love with Maya.

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pomegranate

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Posted: 8 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: lumos_31
I think it is not possible to convince people for anything over here. Binge justifications about Maya are not going to chang ethe fact that she is wrong in what she is doing. And justifications about Saanjh are not going to change the fact that she does get clingy.
When people term Maya as wrong, it is solely based on her actions, and the same goes with Saanjh. But, there is a difference in the two sides of this discussion. When I say Maya is wrong, I do not say Saanjh is right in being clingy or possessive. But we also need to remember that Saanjh is, after all a human being. She is bound to react in the way she is reacting. But speaking against her for reacting this way and terming Maya's actions as smart is hypocrisy. Because both are wrong her. Saanjh for being clingy, and Maya for manipulating Arjun. And they are wrong because the characters are humans just like all of us. Maya has a reason to behave/act this way and if we are mature enough to understand that n empathize with her, then I think we shouldnt criticise saanjh for her actions. Because she too, is not doing this without reason.

And for people justifying Maya, I agree with u all, shes handling Arjun smartly, shes giving arjun space, blah blah. But it is this that is going to cost her, just the way Saanjh warning Arjun is going to cost Saanjh their friendship. Logically speaking Saanjh Arjun is the end game, not ArYa.
Definitely not unless Arjun knows the truth n then falls in love with Maya.

You are supposed put forth your views, not convince people. Yes maya is toxic and manipulative but ever since ayans arrest, maya has not done anything. Arya's relationship developed the most without maya's manipulation. Which again shows maya does not have to adopt questionable methods to draw arjun closer to her. It remains to be seen whether arjun falls for maya due to her manipulations or because he will identify with the vulnerable maya(the real maya)

Edited by pomegranate - 8 years ago

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Japrilforever

@Japrilforever

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Posted: 8 years ago

#29

@pomegranate yes, I meant putting forth your views only but when somebody doesn't agree to u, the discussion goes on and on without any logical end. And it looks like both parties are trying to convince each other why they are right.

About Arjun falling for Maya, he is not. He would do everything that he is doing for maya now for any other girl he considered his friend. He is a good soul. And it's not ArYa the lovers but ArYa the friends that are developing without Maya's manipulation, and that is going to be misinterpreted by Maya for love. Ever since Ayaan's arrest Maya has not done anything because she is busy fighting her own demons. And Arjun is being a true friend her e, nothing more than that. Tom if Arjun starts speaking about saanjh she will get back to her manipulative ways for sure. That is how her character is etched out to be.

Edited by lumos_31 - 8 years ago

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@xsumi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#30

Exactly I find it so frustrating
Maya loves family she is close to her mum, I don't think she will do anything to separate Arjun and his family, but like you said it's Arjun family and saanjh who are separating them and Arjun

They treat Arjun like a baby, and control him in what he should and shouldn't do. Seriously it's like Arjun can not do anything for Maya

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