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Posted: 6 years ago
#61

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014


So what lobbying is as bad as rigging blatantly .each casting 100 to 1000 votes ...


We r not crying for the first time ..I never gave importance to awards..and find actors who give too much importance to awards as hypocritic ..aamir is correct in this aspect

At least sometimes without lobbying u will get jury but in voting every time it's a comedy rigging


Amir himself went to Chinese award ceremony. So, last thing you want to quote is Amir here. Thugs of Hindustan is his first failure in years which was last thing expected from him. And that speaks of the content rules theory.

Kangana works in the same industry and is fiercely vocal about nepotism and there are so many others like her.

Besides, this year nominations in ITA weren't that bad since most of the nominees have done a good job in their shows.

And so many people voted for this show for the first time. In this forum only I have come across atleast 30 who said they had never voted before but did it for this show.

Popular category works like that everywhere. And Harshad deserved the award for his performance for the shades his character showed in the show.
Just because he won the award and was happy about it makes him a hypocrite. Most people out there admit that he deserved it. He might not have deserved it next year if the show had continued. It's not like he did a bad job and was still given an award for no reason. He attracted audience with his portrayal. And people openly admit it.

There are actors who deserve awards for their performance. Shaheer deserved it for Dev, Mohit deserves it for sikandar, Aditi deserves it for Mauli, Sonarika for Prithvi Vallabh and so on.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#62

Originally posted by: Harshadholic

The ita awards are there since the last 18 years

When Harshad Chopda sweeps the awards it is called rigging

What will one call Zee Sold awards then, what about the jury section of ita when instead of 5 nominations all of a sudden within a time frame of 30 minutes six nominees were in the list.

Is Film fare very judious in giving awards ? Why are star kids preferred over genuine talent ?

Coming to indian television the same shows or their franchise are repeated year after year. In that ita should either wait for those shows to end as their have already been awarded and rewarded for their performances. No need of any award cermony, the bhagyas, rishtas and super natural elements of the unknown world should be sent awards by courier bcos as per trp they are topping the charts

Genuine talent has no place here. This is the moral of the story.



See in jury most of the times it might be biased but At least some times it's genuine like kaMalHASAN got national awards genuinely and not by lobbying

BUT this popular awards is ALWAYS BLATANT RIGGING

I think last year Jenny got some jury award for beyhadh ..do u think she got it by lobbying isn't it genuine .
Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#63

Originally posted by: Flame.


Going by your logic if one wants to show wife beating, rape, child po*nography and every other despicable thing in a positive light should be allowed to do it without a squeak from those who happen to watch it because the ones showing it may see it as progressive and not regressive 👏

And if you teach your 10 year old from the very beginning the meaning of consent and how it works when dealing with the other gender, he won't rape a 5 year old or anyone for that matter.

And you still haven't answered my question. In which slot do you think Dayan, tantra, balck magic fall? Regressive or progressive?


There was a social activist in KBC fighting for rural women who face domestic violence. She said that women literally think that it's the right of husband to beat them. Men think that marital rape is not a problem since sex after marriage is sort of a compulsion. Women don't even know that they can be raped even after marriage and providing sex is their duty. They have made themselves o inferior and they feel it and ITV helps in promoting it.

Silsila blatantly promoted an EMA as a divine love affair. Zoya did it and atleast she faced outrage.
DSDT so openly promoted all fears about surrogacy and an EMA and sheer insenstivity for infertile women.
Shakti which was supposed to shed light on transgenders became a family drama anf a love story. Roop which was supposed to be about feminism has become a love story with a villain of OTT expressions. Udaan that was supposed to shed light in bonded labor lost its track so long back.
EK brought Kasauti back with same recycled story. Bhagyas have the same story in both of their shows.

There is no limit. I mean 1 or 2 show is fine but literally every show is like that.

And foreign shows are addressing racism, homophobia and so many things in their shows. Even pakistani do marvelous job in addressing the issues. While here all we have is drama and talking about it makes us hypocrite.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#64

Originally posted by: arshi_asya


Amir himself went to Chinese award ceremony. So, last thing you want to quote is Amir here. Thugs of Hindustan is his first failure in years which was last thing expected from him. And that speaks of the content rules theory.

Kangana works in the same industry and is fiercely vocal about nepotism and there are so many others like her.

Besides, this year nominations in ITA weren't that bad since most of the nominees have done a good job in their shows.

And so many people voted for this show for the first time. In this forum only I have come across atleast 30 who said they had never voted before but did it for this show.

Popular category works like that everywhere. And Harshad deserved the award for his performance for the shades his character showed in the show.
Just because he won the award and was happy about it makes him a hypocrite. Most people out there admit that he deserved it. He might not have deserved it next year if the show had continued. It's not like he did a bad job and was still given an award for no reason. He attracted audience with his portrayal. And people openly admit it.

There are actors who deserve awards for their performance. Shaheer deserved it for Dev, Mohit deserves it for sikandar, Aditi deserves it for Mauli, Sonarika for Prithvi Vallabh and so on.


Not only harshad many deserved it ..but thus popular award should be scrapped bcos of known blatant rigging u can't encourage blatant rigging done publicly so blatantly and unscrupulously

If rigging not there and who ever gets it.its ok ..then it will be genuine
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Posted: 6 years ago
#65
i don't think Harshad was blaming the audience at any point.

Him along with all the artists in that live over and again iterated the same point that the audience (A, B, C classes) should be considered equally, people watch what they are offered. " tum dikhavoge nahin to log dekhenge kaise" was a question they had. That's not blaming . It's a question raised at the insecurities and inabilities to take certain required risks to change the existing pattern.

They called a spade a spade. In the realm of entertainment industry, which is their bread n butter , they did call out what was wrong in a sane professional manner. Why would they want to ruin any professional relationships or connection with someone by taking names?

Would we- the working professionals- question and take names and humili ate (in a public platform) our bosses /organizations, possible connections that can boost our career and spoil our career /work? I don't think so.

They spoke in a platform that was offered to them. Evry industry has it's shortcomings .If not addressed in d right way, right time, it'll not benefit anyone. It'll circle down the drain in no time.
Just coz they don't like how things work, shouldn't they even voice out n try to change the way? Or is it easier to abandon everything including their career n run away to a safe zone?

From the FB live , it was clear that the artists wanted the craft/product/story to have it's time to make an impact. To have a gud waiting period to garner audience n response. We should not forget that this is what they dream of doing. And they want it to be done in the rightful manner.



Edited by glorious - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Flame.


Going by your logic if one wants to show wife beating, rape, child po*nography and every other despicable thing in a positive light should be allowed to do it without a squeak from those who happen to watch it because the ones showing it may see it as progressive and not regressive 👏

And if you teach your 10 year old from the very beginning the meaning of consent and how it works when dealing with the other gender, he won't rape a 5 year old or anyone for that matter.

And you still haven't answered my question. In which slot do you think Dayan, tantra, balck magic fall? Regressive or progressive?


For me shows r neither progressive nor regressive it's in pov of a person..and as long as it's legal we can't prevent anything ...people watch what they like ..

oh now if 10 yr old does sex in con sent with 9 yr old by watching sex on tv is it progressive for u ..
If u don't want to get u r kid exposed what in u r POV is regressive better cut tv connection or internet conne tion or put childlocks if possible ON Internet And Tv




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Posted: 6 years ago
#67

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014


See in jury most of the times it might be biased but At least some times it's genuine like kaMalHASAN got national awards genuinely and not by lobbying

BUT this popular awards is ALWAYS BLATANT RIGGING

I think last year Jenny got some jury award for beyhadh ..do u think she got it by lobbying isn't it genuine .


Popular awards are about voting and who so ever has it in their favor wins. Fair and square. There is literally no way these organizers would spend crores on a redundancy-proof voting system to ensure one device, one vote policy. No award show except for national awards that is in govt. Hands is free from it. Lobbying in them takes place because of some bias which itself happens at some times only.

Jury category is everywhere, even in Oscars and emmy along with popular category.

For Beyhadh, Jenny got all Jury awards from everywhere. Even for Zoya, she got a Jury award only. And popular awards work in this way only in most parts of the world. And HC must have got more votes since people have admitted that he was the first actor and BP was the first show along with Jenny people voted for, for the first time. They had never voted before that. Even if I remove redundancy, even then the guy must have got more votes then the others. Most people in forum have confessed that they never voted for anyone before BP.

Every fandom organized mass voting for their shows and actors they wanted to win. HC and BP gained votes from other fandoms as well and that's no secret.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#68

Originally posted by: glorious

i don't think Harshad was blaming the audience at any point.

Him along with all the artists in that live over and again iterated the same point that the audience (A, B, C classes) should be considered equally, people watch what they are offered. " tum dikhavoge nahin to log dekhenge kaise" was a question they had. That's not blaming . It's a question raised at the insecurities and inabilities to take certain required risks to change the existing pattern.

They called a spade a spade. In the realm of entertainment industry, which is their bread n butter , they did call out what was wrong in a sane professional manner. Why would they want to ruin any professional relationships or connection with someone by taking names?
Would we- the working professionals- question and take names and humili ate (in a public platform) our bosses /organizations, possible connections that can boost our career and spoil our career /work? I don't think so.
They spoke in a platform that was offered to them. Evry industry has it's shortcomings .If not addressed in d right way, right time, it'll not benefit anyone. It'll circle down the drain in no time.
Just coz they don't like how things work, shouldn't they even voice out n try to change the way? Or is it easier to abandon everything including their career n run away to a safe zone?

From the FB live , it was clear that the artists wanted the craft/product/story to have it's time to make an impact. To have a gud waiting period to garner audience n response. We should not forget that this is what they dream of doing. And they want it to be done in the rightful manner.




So if A count is 20 and C class is 100 ..what's wrong if channel choose 100..it's market theory ..why blame Channel
Harshad should not spoil his revenue but channels should do experiments and sacrifice revenue for minor audience

WHAT IF every actor producer director stop taking money for 2 years and do it free for channels and channels can experiment for 2 years with Less revenue innovative so called progressive serials and if after 2 years trp is abysmal then channels can go be k to their so called regressive stuff ..sounds good right

Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#69

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014


Not only harshad many deserved it ..but thus popular award should be scrapped bcos of known blatant rigging u can't encourage blatant rigging done publicly so blatantly and unscrupulously

If rigging not there and who ever gets it.its ok ..then it will be genuine


That ain't happening. Deploying a secure cyber-security system is too much of a task for the organizers. Everyone in the nominee list deserves award and that's why they are in the list at the first place. Mass voting happens for every show done by the respective fandoms. BP core fandom wasn't the first one in the history to do that. And BP core fandom happens to be quite large and add to it the first time voters like me who voted only once.

HC won popular, SC won popular, BP won popular. All of them had quite a following from past and the present. HC core fandom used to be huge even in 2010 when such mass votings were not organized via social media twitter and insta and people voted by sms.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Every countries TV industry have their own shortcomings but other countries have atleast made improvements or are trying to put in the effort to improve the quality of their shows but what improvements are the indian tv industry making?? absolutely nothing. Instead content is becoming more illogical and regressive every year. It's only a few selected shows like Bepannaah who have tried to break free from the norms of Indian tv but sadly these shows don't get their due and are axed off prematurely.

Being too optimistic here, but if the industry continues to be like this, there will come a time where they will keep facing losses one after the other because people get fed up of seeing the same bullshit on their tv screens
Edited by Cherryfairy - 6 years ago

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