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VARUNI2014

@VARUNI2014

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Posted: 6 years ago

#11

It's easy for actors to blame on trp..but channels need. To survive ..they r not charity institutions ..

Let actors give their one fourrth salary to channels for free ..then they will not chose trp

Or let actors run channels themselves ..they will know the pain

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JCluvs srk

@JCluvs srk

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+ 3

Posted: 6 years ago

#12

Gosh I can't wait to see this! At work now. Will comment on it later!

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Anjali

@arshi_asya

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Posted: 6 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014
It's easy for actors to blame on trp..but channels need. To survive ..they r not charity institutions ..
Let actors give their one fourrth salary to channels for free ..then they will not chose trp

Or let actors run channels themselves ..they will know the pain

TRP is coming from only some 30k meters. In a country of of huge population, you really think targeting only that section will work. Everyone is paying for these channels. And if this continue, people are gonna cancel the subscription. Channels earn money from subscription too. Actors can switch to Internet if they get good scripts too over time like Ram Kapoor, Barun, Sanaya & so many others.

In a place where TRP system is rigged, it needs to be pointed out. Otherwise it will never change. International audience mocks most of our shows.

Audience who watch the good shows doesn't even contribute to the so called TRPs & that proves that shows with literally good content are not popular. India has sensible audience who can recognize good shows, that's why Zindagi shows became a rage. But this audience doesn't contribute to TRP. And such audience will increase only in future.

Channels themselves should work up for improvement of TRP system rather than caving into more regressive content to cater to selective audience. Even people in villages with Internet connection are switching to Internet content.

And if channel give it some time, things will change for the best for them only. But their short-sightedness to earn quick profits leads to interference in the story which leads to completely ruining the story.

Back in 2000s, EK shows used to get TRP of some 22 points. Now, at most they get 4 pts. It speaks a lot about audience TV has lost. In some 10 years, these channels won't get over 1 with the way Internet content is seeping in.

Channels are digging their own graves only with the way they are turning out to be. They might not even end up capable to do charity if they don't revolutionize.

If TV shows are popular online then it counts since urban audience finds net more feasible with their life style. That means this audience is not contributing to TV but it is contributing to Online revenue collection. And for heaven's sake, let a director & writer show their story without interfering. They know what they do.

Edited by arshi_asya - 6 years ago

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VARUNI2014

@VARUNI2014

Rocker

Posted: 6 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: arshi_asya

TRP is coming from only some 30k meters. In a country of of huge population, you really think targeting only that section will work.

In a place where TRP system is rigged, it needs to be pointed out. Otherwise it will never change. International audience mocks most of our shows.

Audience who watch the good shows doesn't even contribute to the so called TRPs & that proves that shows with literally good content are not popular. India has sensible audience who can recognize good shows, that's why Zindagi shows became a rage. But this audience doesn't contribute to TRP. And such audience will increase only in future.

Channels themselves should work up for improvement of TRP system rather than caving into more regressive content to cater to selective audience. Even people in villages with Internet connection are switching to Internet content.

And if channel give it some time, things will change for the best for them only. But their short-sightedness to earn quick profits leads to interference in the story which leads to completely ruining the story.

Back in 2000s, EK shows used to get TRP of some 22 points. Now, at most they get 4 pts. It speaks a lot about audience TV has lost. In some 10 years, these channels won't get over 1 with the way Internet content is seeping in.

Channels are digging their own graves only with the way they are turning out to be. They might not even end up capable to do charity if they don't revolutionize.

So u say now ITA votes r nog rigged z c genuine ..each voted hundred times ..is it not blatantly rigged and is ig nog shamr on actors yo relieve tjose rigged awards and blaming on barc for manipulation

Point is 30 k neters is scientifically chosen atleast ..and if u know ..some illegal manipulation going on 30 k meters feel free to complain to govof India or barc ..

See u can't find meters to every home ..to see an outcome uneed not test every sample..theres a thing called sampling and probability analysis and that's what barc does ...and ad market believed it

And trp 22 now 3.5 ..first of all channels increased ..then in 2000 ..10 channels now 200 channels and also the way they calculate trp Is changed ...so cant compare oranges and apples ...

International audience even mock our bolywoid movie dances ..so what..this us our culture ..and I don't care what international audience care about ..even I can mock their shows ...and theur stupid ethic less family culture ..

Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago

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VARUNI2014

@VARUNI2014

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Posted: 6 years ago

#15

Those who watch Netflix any way watch it and those who watch TV will watch ...

Ad mkt knows what is what ..and chose it's money wisely

This us not ITA where blatant rigging goes on shamelessly

I think ita should stop making a fool of it and be like filmfare awards ...atleast they should be careful and allow only one one vote from one IP address if they want to continue with voting system

Revenue is important for channels

.who is stopping any one from cancelling subscriptions ..feel free to do it

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Salutethearmy

@Salutethearmy

Rocker

+ 7

Posted: 6 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: ramisaaAli
Anybody saw the live with anu ranjan??
Harshad was on fire today 👏

Btw Harshad got 60% of the 17crore votes in ITA 👏👏 congratulations harshuuu

Something is really wrong here. Sms chgs are from 1 to 3 per text

I do not know the figure last year but they give the total number of votes recd. This was close to 1.7.votes for popular voting

Sms again fans will not prefer unless most of them have switched to jio where there are free sms packages

Is she referring to 17 crores in total for all categories. ??

Have overseas fans also voted ?

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Anjali

@arshi_asya

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#17

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

So u say now ITA votes r nog rigged z c genuine ..each voted hundred times ..is it not blatantly rigged and is ig nog shamr on actors yo relieve tjose rigged awards and blaming on barc for manipulation

Point is 30 k neters is scientifically chosen atleast ..and if u know ..some illegal manipulation going on 30 k meters feel free to complain to govof India or barc ..

See u can't find meters to every home ..to see an outcome uneed not test every sample..theres a thing called sampling and probability analysis and that's what barc does ...and ad market believed it

And trp 22 now 3.5 ..first of all channels increased ..then in 2000 ..10 channels now 200 channels and also the way they calculate trp Is changed ...so cant compare oranges and apples ...

International audience even mock our bolywoid movie dances ..so what..this us our culture ..and I don't care what international audience care about ..even I can mock their shows ...and theur stupid ethic less family culture ..

Who is blaming BARC for manipulation. I know how statistical sampling can present a picture that may be far from reality. Among 3 kinds of lies in the world- Statistics is one of them which is not exactly considered a lie technically but doesn't present an actual picture as well. College say 100% placement with so & so package while I know what's the truth to that since I have been part of Placement Office Team back in my college for 2 years.

There are only 30k meters in some billion households in the country. Look at the ratio. One figure implies millions at the same time. I didn't say those 30k meters are tampered. Read that again. But are 30k meters enough to give an actual picture. Digitization makes it possible to detect transmission & receipt of signal for every minute (and that is not attack on privacy since signals are global & limited to selective transmission). How are foreign countries measuring the exact no. of viewership of their shows at a time without these meters. Technology is already there to do that with the help of satellite signals.

Main GEC channels are still 7-8 only since 2000s. So, one has to admit that TV audience has decreased significantly in this decade with the seep in of Internet. Even in 2012-13, some shows had TRPs of 6-7 at prime time. And the trend is likely to continue with the way independent apps are coming up with refreshing content on Netflix, Amazon Prime, Youtube Originals & other independent digital apps.

As for mocking, even Pakistanis & Turkish make much better shows than us with all their cultural ethics intact & realism in them. Stories are not recycled unlike here where recycling is fun. Leave apart western content, most of our content can't compete with their Asian counterparts whose cultural values are more or less very similar to that of ours.

These same channels were thriving with great content back in 90s & even now those shows are in people's mind. And content must change with times.

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Anjali

@arshi_asya

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: Harshadholic

Something is really wrong here. Sms chgs are from 1 to 3 per text

I do not know the figure last year but they give the total number of votes recd. This was close to 1.7.votes for popular voting

Sms again fans will not prefer unless most of them have switched to jio where there are free sms packages

Is she referring to 17 crores in total for all categories. ??

Have overseas fans also voted ?

Jio, Airtel both with their new plans have free sms facility. Then there is facility to vote through Internet as well. Most people vote through Internet rather than SMS. Plus, people must have voted from multiple numbers & various devices.

Overseas fans must have voted through Internet & their email IDs. I myself voted from my personal email ID only.

And Yup, she said 17 crores total votes in ITA. (which sounds like a huge no. for some reasons.)

Edited by arshi_asya - 6 years ago

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Anjali

@arshi_asya

Dazzler

Posted: 6 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014
Those who watch Netflix any way watch it and those who watch TV will watch ...
Ad mkt knows what is what ..and chose it's money wisely

This us not ITA where blatant rigging goes on shamelessly

I think ita should stop making a fool of it and be like filmfare awards ...atleast they should be careful and allow only one one vote from one IP address if they want to continue with voting system

Revenue is important for channels
.who is stopping any one from cancelling subscriptions ..feel free to do it

To be honest, award shows sites can do minimum to ensure One person, one vote policy. Multiple IPs in the same system in no big deal. Most agencies for awards don't really care for following security measures & employ strict systems for such things. SBS site at most added captcha feature to stop bots in the last days.

Each device comes up with different IP & people use multiple devices to vote. So, redundant voting through Internet is pretty easy for every award show in in most places around the world & not just India & honestly, it can't be stopped unless one spends a fortune on strict cyber security measures. I don't think they would do that anyway.