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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: VARUNI2014

It's easy for actors to blame on trp..but channels need. To survive ..they r not charity institutions ..

Let actors give their one fourrth salary to channels for free ..then they will not chose trp

Or let actors run channels themselves ..they will know the pain



Not just actors but we a section of the audience as well blame the channels and their trp games. Measuring TRP itself is flawed as they do not reflect the true picture. A random selection of households cannot be taken as the gauge for the entire audience. At least there should be a window for viewers like us who are wanting shows with story & content.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Harshad is a rare personality. He comes across as an honest and sincere person and absolutely down to earth. hope he stays this way always.
As an actor he is the best at the moment on ITV.His commitment to his craft has made him hone his talent to improve with every show and with his latest Aditya Hooda he has peaked to perfection.It is evident that there was deep connect between him and the director Aniruddh Rajderkar as well as Jenny. This understanding is what has made ADiYa almost immortal for TV viewers.

Here was a show with story & content and Harshad excelled.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: nayantara.

Harshad is a rare personality. He comes across as an honest and sincere person and absolutely down to earth. hope he stays this way always.
As an actor he is the best at the moment on ITV.His commitment to his craft has made him hone his talent to improve with every show and with his latest Aditya Hooda he has peaked to perfection.It is evident that there was deep connect between him and the director Aniruddh Rajderkar as well as Jenny. This understanding is what has made ADiYa almost immortal for TV viewers.

Here was a show with story & content and Harshad excelled.


That's fact. Harshad has no pretence, a certain innocence, and he's so transparent. WYSIWYG.. Did you see that adopt-a-tree seg? He couldn't even pretend he was going to do it, which 99% would have done. I think he must have a hard time in a milieu where egos need frequent massaging. Add to that his standards, and I'm really worried when he'll be back. He'll get offers in plenty right now, but anything worth doing? After Aditya Hooda he's gone and raised the bar very high.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Tyshal

Count me in!
He is the first person of my life to whom I voted apart apart from bjp in state assembly elections😆

I never ever voted for anyone in these award functions, reality shows... Thinking chal na yaar milna hoga to mil jayega😆

And then...suddenly...Mr. Harshad Chopda comes to my life, i cursed to myself arrey ITV itna bhi bura nhi Hai...Kuchh actors Hai who are so strongly expressive while acting ,( not a flat faced like others😕)

Iss bandey ne mujhse wo sb karaya h Jo mene life me kbi ni kiya😆
And voting in ita more multiple times is one of them.

Proud...Im so proud to being his fan!!!


Iss banday ne mujh jaise social recluse ko 3 SM accounts khulwane pe majboor kar diya..
Seriously, and he still underestimates himself...
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Posted: 6 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: GraveMistake


That's fact. Harshad has no pretence, a certain innocence, and he's so transparent. WYSIWYG.. Did you see that adopt-a-tree seg? He couldn't even pretend he was going to do it, which 99% would have done. I think he must have a hard time in a milieu where egos need frequent massaging. Add to that his standards, and I'm really worried when he'll be back. He'll get offers in plenty right now, but anything worth doing? After Aditya Hooda he's gone and raised the bar very high.


he's raised the bar too high for himself unfortunately in an industry that does not value the standards he goes by...
I do hope there is something someone has created that fits his professional sensibilities and that it comes to him soon...
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Posted: 6 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: arshi_asya


The socioeconomic classification has classes in sociology as well as economics. A, B, C.
There was a time when C was much larger, but now C has reduced & has promoted to B & B have further promoted themselves. None of their shows cater to taste of urban audience which is in Class A & B mostly, who want crisp & finite content with proper story-telling. Few shows may come here & there & that's it. Sony is doing good with their good content shows that can resonate with everyone.

ITV even now is catering to C & lower sections of B. TV actors themselves have confessed so many times. Why do you think, senior TV actors are exploring web because it gives them creative satisfaction.

And no, there is no speculation about increase of on-demand content. It's a fact on paper. TV guys know it & they know that audience who is shifting to that content will not watch their show anyway, so why bother. We can continue with what we have been doing for years & continue catering to Section C on TV. EK has come up with brilliant shows online but still continues to show regressive shows on TV.

Companies don't spend unless they do their calculation on target & same is going with Netflix & Amazon. They know frustration of Class B & C from ITV & demand for that sort of content & they are giving it to them, while our channels are busy ignoring them.

Everyone wants to bring up things that come, earn profit, go & be forgotten but no one wants to come up with things that can become classic for future. Even today, SRK is remembered for his early career roles than this latest ones in Dilwale & others & he himself admits it.

Game of Thrones didn't become this success in a day. I still remember no one cared for its first season. The promo of first season came & no one was bothered. But it was only when they killed Ned Stark in Season 1, it gained attention. Season 2 gained more attention & by the time Season 3 ended, it had become an international rage. And now it stands on a level, where a single teaser of mere 15 seconds breaks all records everywhere. Hotstar went ahead to show Season 7 exclusively in legal way & earned huge profits.

Good shows work even today if not interfered with & given a chance. Look at KRPKAB, YUDKBH, DHTH, POW. These didn't get good TRP but fared so well on online medium. Their online revenue was quite well.

As for salaries & revenue, things work on inflation adjustment. Value of 100 Rs in 90s will not be same as in today's time. So, keeping in mind inflation, things were costly even then. Rs 1000 in 90s are equivalent to Rs 1 lakh today. Today, they are spending more & earning less because of their haste only. Things were always working on revenue. It's not like revenue has become important only now & earlier maintenance was filthy cheap.

P.S- A,B,C Class division example is actually real thing in demographic classification & a part of sociology & economics.


So what r u telling ...channels know their business and they r not fools to lose their revenue ..online mot has some revenue but not suff enough to ignore tv and go for that content alone

So ek or anyone is tapping that small online revenue too ..any business man would do that

Finally I say huge people r even watching tv now ...and tv guys have data with them unlike u and me who just type on keyboard ..so CEO are showing what those huge audience wants and regarding trp ..I told u ..method changed to calculate trp and don't compare that 22 trp with 3.5 or 4.5 trp now ..like on my eng days getting 75 is topper but now they r getting 90 ..that does not mean today 90 guy is smarter than 75 guy ..only thing is paper evaluation method changed ..same with trp ..so don't compare that with today trp ...apples with oranges

They know what they r doing ..let actors stop giving lectures as to what should channels do ..let them do what they r at best i.e acting and leave other issues to channel CEO..they know what is best and if mkt reject their content ..then they will change automatically

U r so called niche urban audience can go for Netflix or any online series and let harshad stop acting on tv and choose online ..who the heck is stopping him ..why he sat idle for 3 years ..he should have chosen online ...

..and why u critisizing tv ..u can wTch online and ignore tv right ..whats the problem ..let those huge number of c audience watch tv ...leave that to business people who run business ...what to show on tv ..
Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: IFfan100


he's raised the bar too high for himself unfortunately in an industry that does not value the standards he goes by...
I do hope there is something someone has created that fits his professional sensibilities and that it comes to him soon...





Why he should lament that no good content on tv ..let him go online .or stage ...what is stopping ..why criticizing tv and still waiting for tv roles ..
Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: GraveMistake

Thanks for the link, tannu. Great iv, sensible viewpoints, and Harshad looking delectable.

@VARUNI, the problem with barc samples is that the sample population is skewed. It is made up of those who are inclined towards soaps rather than serials. Maybe this is from carelessness, ignorance, or deliberate, the last to accommodate certain serial makers or types of serials.
Suppose you want to get statistics on pet owners, but want a particular result. For example, I want a sample that will show that fish are the most preferred pets. I can select a sample heavily loaded with those who have aquariums. Voila! My results will be what I want.
Trps are not a fair representation, IMO. The sample size would be okay if it covered all types of viewers. It does not.
Yes, you're right to an extent wrt the ita/sbs/avta voting. Dedicated fds repeatedly vote for their favourites, so the results are not an absolute indication, because just as trps ignore a particular population, these are restricted to those with online access or sms plans that allow full-on multiple voting. I think for us the frenzied voting was a way to redress what happened with bepannah and to get some justice for our actors/show. And I really felt they deserved it. If I had watched anything else and found an actor better, I'd have not voted for ours, even though Harshad is my personal favourite.


What will barc get if it skews samples ..what's the motivation ..don't say channels r so intent on showing what they want and bribe barc ..I don't get the logic

If really substantial number of people change channel owners change too ..what's the need for them to bribe barc and and get skewed samples

Logic is missing

I am not right to an extant ..I am 100 percent right ita voting is bogus and fraud and it does not represent people watching tv content at all ..for popular awards

Barc trp represents far better ..
Edited by VARUNI2014 - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#39


Originally posted by: VARUNI2014


What will barc get if it skews samples ..what's the motivation ..don't say channels r so intent on showing what they want and bribe barc ..I don't get the logic

If really substantial number of people change channel owners change too ..what's the need for them to bribe barc and and get skewed samples

Logic is missing

I am not right to an extant ..I am 100 percent right ita voting is bogus and fraud and it does not represent people watching tv content at all ..for popular awards

Barc trp represents far better ..


In ITA there are 3 awards - 1 for best show popular by votes, 1 for best show trp and 1 for best show critics/jury. So all get recognition.
Edited by romancefan - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: VARUNI2014



So what r u telling ...channels know their business and they r not fools to lose their revenue ..online mot has some revenue but not suff enough to ignore tv and go for that content alone

So ek or anyone is tapping that small online revenue too ..any business man would do that

Finally I say huge people r even watching tv now ...and tv guys have data with them unlike u and me who just type on keyboard ..so CEO are showing what those huge audience wants and regarding trp ..I told u ..method changed to calculate trp and don't compare that 22 trp with 3.5 or 4.5 trp now ..like on my eng days getting 75 is topper but now they r getting 90 ..that does not mean today 90 guy is smarter than 75 guy ..only thing is paper evaluation method changed ..same with trp ..so don't compare that with today trp ...apples with oranges

They know what they r doing ..let actors stop giving lectures as to what should channels do ..let them do what they r at best i.e acting and leave other issues to channel CEO..they know what is best and if mkt reject their content ..then they will change automatically

U r so called niche urban audience can go for Netflix or any online series and let harshad stop acting on tv and choose online ..who the heck is stopping him ..why he sat idle for 3 years ..he should have chosen online ...

..and why u critisizing tv ..u can wTch online and ignore tv right ..whats the problem ..let those huge number of c audience watch tv ...leave that to business people who run business ...what to show on tv ..



We are democracy dear...we can speak our heart out.,..

So according to your logic we are also not able to criticize any show just because we are watching it... the criticizing should be done by any technical person or creative only!! And only a politician can criticize and demand change in the ongoing system also...we can demand anything just because we are voters..!!!!!

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