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Posted: 16 years ago

#71

Originally posted by: sg08

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Opti

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Posted: 16 years ago

#72

Originally posted by: --BC--

Great point, The HK drama doesn't affect them materially in any way. You can always recover from a wounded pride or honour but lets consider if Hiten & Khemi do give up their relationship. What happens next? Khemi will be emotionally blackmailed or guilt-tripped into another marriage but then again if honour is so important and the village is so restrictive, no one is going to marry her cos her honour is tarnished forever by running away with Hiten. And Hiten is adamant that he will marry no one but her. So twenty years from now when Nanaji is long gone and probably DM also while Monghi is off living her life and Santo really is the Maalkin of the village probably with children of her own and some of the villagers of who are protesting now have left the village or have grown-up children who don't give two hoots about all of this what about Hiten & Khemi then?? They would have sacrificed their lives and probably be still single or stuck in unhappy marriages all for people who are now dead or have long moved on with their lives. Of course they have the option to also move on but who's to say it's possible. Look how stuck DM is still on Subhi after all these years.

People are going on about society but society has to adapt to changing enviroments. It's a basic law of survival. I have heard so many things about Gujarati and Tamil societies but it's not all universal. I belong to a Tamil society but it is completely unrecognisable from the one that has marriages between uncles and nieces or would have an issue with a HK marriage or in the first place think it has the right to tell people how to live their lives. Hell, a few month ago here, two GUYS got married to each other according to full Hindu rites. But the last time I looked the world still carried on turning.

Well said, and fully agree with it.

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Aisha_86

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Posted: 16 years ago

#73

Originally posted by: Opti

Who gave them an free ticket. Where did they get to do what they want? Oh yes, it is definitely not selfish of them to have returned to the village after realising that the village's honour is at stake. They could have stayed back and got married did they not? Yes, they eloped but they returned because it was against the basic grain of their character to be selfish. If they insist that they want to be together because they love each other deeply and that makes them selfish, so be it.

True love between the 50-18? That has not yet bloomed has it? Father and son? If DM really loevd his son he would be sensitive to his feelings and try to find a solution to this problem which stemmed from his incongruous marriage. If the nanaji really loved his grand daughter, he would have told Santo that she would be marrying a man with 5 kids of which 3 are older than her before letting her accept DM. The poor girl had to find that out for herself. If he really cared for his grand daughter, he would have stood up against the villagers and said that even if his grand daughter's marriage was stopped he will not sit aside and watch her life totally ruined by getting married to his 50 - year old maalik. He wanted to sake his own skin I guess. DM has lived a full life. Nanaji has lived a full life. Yet they now want to stand in the way of their children/grand chilren's happiness. All these people are really selfless.

Only hi-mi are selfish.

My post was BEFORE i had watched yesterday's episode.. I am glad they returned but i would still like to discuss a point you made here.

"Yes, they eloped but they returned because it was against the basic grain of their character to be selfish.".. No you know WHY hiten returned? Because he saw it as a business game.. First he wanted to teach his father a lesson so he ran away with khemi.. But when he found out that his enemy (the guy who ruined his sisters life) was trying to let him and khemi marry, he suddenly wanted to return back home cause he couldn't let his enemy win could he?

If Avinash didn't come, believe me Hiten and Khemi would have gotten married.. Actually the selfish Avinash helped these two selfish young ones to do a selfless act... And which still is selfish if you think about it.

So what do you want to say further about the father and son relationship? I dont know, but i think in the Indian society children are teached to respect their parents. Yes you can stand up for your rights, but that isn't what hiten s doing, he is just COMPETING with his father.. He wants do to everything that his father forbids him. And sorry to say, it is obvious DM has a harsh way of talking to his children, but the fact is he remains the FATHER and hiten remains the SON.. No son and i really mean NO son has the right to call his father names... And seriously that is what hiten did.. I have no respect left for this character after that episode where he used his idiotic dialogue of "agar aap mere maa ke" etc.

And I never said that DM or Nana would be right for the decisions they had made.. But that also doesn't make what ever hiten and khemi are doing right does it? DM and Hiten can't really get along, but hiten had a good bond with nanaji.. He could have gone and asked for her hand and if nana said NO than Hiten could have acted as he did yesterday telling the whole gao that he will marry Khemi..

But No you know what? Every little thing HIten and Khemi have done till now wasn't there own guts neither was it planned.. It was just something that happened to come along their way.

For instance:

-Hiten convinced khemi AFTER he overheared her saying she has feelings for him
-Khemi wore the necklace AFTER santo had put it on her
-Hiten gave a big mouth to DM AFTER DM came to talk to him in his room
-Khemi talked to nana ji AFTER she found out santo had told him everything
-Khemi and Hiten ran away AFTER shambu had helped
-Khemi and Hien came bag to dharmpur to announce their love AFTER everyon had already known and AFTER Avinash had set them up.

So tell me how real is these lovebirds love? They didn't DO anythhing for their so called true love cause they didn't have the guts, everything had to be done by either santo, dm or SHAMBU..

Edited by Aisha_86 - 16 years ago

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KaneBC

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Posted: 16 years ago

#74

Originally posted by: Opti

Well said, and fully agree with it.

Quite frankly I'm incredulous about this whole debate. People do realise that the rest of the world is grappling with issues like gay marriages and such, dont they? A lot of countries now allow for some sort of civil union. What the hell is going to happen when the issue hits India? And please don't all pretend that India is going to be immune to it especially in light of the lifting of certain laws just last week there. Put that in perspective against a HK marriage . They seem postively conventional by contrast don't they???

Edited by --BC-- - 16 years ago

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Posted: 16 years ago

#75

Originally posted by: --BC--

Quite frankly I'm incredulous about this whole debate. People do realise that the rest of the world is grappling with issues like gay marriages and such, dont they? A lot of countries now allow for some sort of civil union. What the hell is going to happen when the issue hits India? And please don't all pretend that India is going to be immune to it especially in light of the lifting of certain laws just last week there. Put that in perspective against a HK marriage . They seem postively conventional by contrast don't they???

Yes, a Delhi High court had ruled that gay relations is no longer considered unnatural by law. People have their own perceptions of it but we are living in a world where all this happens. HK marriage seems like a pin prick in the face of these things.

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Aisha_86

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Posted: 16 years ago

#76

Originally posted by: Opti

I am sorry to say, but this it seems that people who like Hiten and Khemi's pair just cannot see the things that they are doing wrong.. There is being made an excuse for every little thing.. Same counts for Dm- Santo Fans.

Everyone has their own view.. And yes mine IS that a son should respect his father no matter what.. If he isn't a good father, leave him but never raise your hand nor scold him! But it seems that you think that whatever a father does to his son, a son is allowed to do it all back..

And yes in my eyes a husband has more rights on his wife And a father has more rights over his son than a son has over his father.. I wont explain why, but this is how my culture has thought me and i also believe in it..

And I also realise that whatever I say, you don't agree with it and i am not here to convince you. I gave my thought about it, but it appears you think the exact opposit. So be it. I also disagree with the things above and could again post arguments to say why I am right, but i know that will leave us back at where we began and i don't want to repeat myself.

Furthermore i seriously hope Hiten and Khemi get married so we get over this track. I hope they are happy and no more sad stories come along for them since then again santo and dm will have to solve it for them and again it will effect their MARRIED live..

Besides sooner or later this track will get over (finally) and DM's and santo's story will go further, as these are the two where the show is about and i am glad it is.

For now this is all i have to say

Edited by Aisha_86 - 16 years ago