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Posted: 9 years ago
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perfectly said & completely agree wid u.

Mn's idea was not foolish one nor J's blurting out it 2 Ak bcoz none knew that Bd will stop Ak from doing it & he knew all abt cops & their way & J & oders don't know if Bd knew all abt cops.

tho A's desire was not worng but her thinking that Ak only wants her & will release ganga in exchange of her was foolish wen Ak himself said he wanted all 4.A's desire 2 go in exchange of ganga is shown 2 show A as sacrificing queen.

and Mn's expressions were clear that she din't've any prob in going & her thinking in the car abt her blurting out 2 N was also clear abt it. she has only this grudge that they shudn't'd brought N wid them putting her in danger.

I agree, mangala was more worried for Nimboli than for herself, but at the same time she understood the sensitivity of the matter and sailed along with everyone's decision. In her place, I don't think someone could have done any different.

Nobody likes to go to dangerous situations willingly, until forced. That is why Mangala suggested that ' if he has tapped your weakness, you tap his'. This plan backfired and now they have taken a huge risk together.

It's not easy for anyone, but they are trying.

Overall it's a nicely executed track with hardly any fault-finding in my opinion. Nobody is mahaan here and nobody is mean. They are faced with a situation and they are solving it as logically as possible.




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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anandi thought she did not have a choice back then too. Further she relied on police support.
If she thought she had a choice why would she put her daughter to risk?

Be it foolishness or a miscalculation - it was never intentional.or selfishness back then.

Neither is it intentional now.

Last time she did not know what she is up against and this time she is dealing with a known entity.

Jagya is not blaming Anandi and her daughter for Ganga's kidnap but she blames her daughter as well as herself for Akheraj's hatred towards Jagya.

She is doing it because she feels responsible and also because Jagya and Ganga are family for her.She would have done the same even if it was Sanchi who is kidnapped instead of Ganga.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anandi was unwise back then if she thought she didn't have a choice. She wasn't inexperienced after all. A bigger price was and is still being paid by Nimboli for Anandi's foolishness. Anandi cannot be excused or sympathised with on the account that she turned out to be foolish.

A question was posed that why is Anandi being criticised and jagya not, despite being in the same situation.

Well, neither the situations are exactly same and neither is Jagya acting foolishly.

However, Anandi can't be blamed this time though.
Edited by Missesha - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anandi thought she didn't have choice back then and took her daughter to that place. Had it been just that - it could still not her fault. But arguing gun and lathi holding men with an infant in her arms was more than foolish - she could have left the girl with the driver. She lost her daughter not when she was trying to stop the marriage but when she was watching the flying bullets tamasha. Her foolishness prooved too costly for the child.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Missesha

Anandi was unwise back then if she thought she didn't have a choice. She wasn't inexperienced after all. A bigger price was and is still being paid by Nimboli for Anandi's foolishness. Anandi cannot be excused or sympathised with on the account that she turned out to be foolish.


A question was posed that why is Anandi being criticised and jagya not, despite being in the same situation.

Well, neither the situations are exactly same and neither is Jagya acting foolishly.

However, Anandi can't be blamed this time though.



Anandi did not anticipate and she also took some precaution like calling police just like Jagya is depending on Anant. And NImboli is a minor and it is unlawful to take a minor even if precautions are taken and this time the risk is definitely known and it is much more. If Kundan cant be kidnapped because he is a minor, how can Nimboli be placed in a dangerous known situation? That too when the outcome may not be favourable. And Jagya is also a lawmaker.

At that time also anandi was selfless and at this time also anandi is selfless. She always wanted to do something for a third party overlooking her self interest. Even for Kamli or Mangala, she would have done this. Or some unknown entity like Sarita. And she is called foolish.

People's real nature and weaknesses come out when they are in forced situation.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anandi did not anticipate and she also took some precaution like calling police just like Jagya is depending on Anant. And NImboli is a minor and it is unlawful to take a minor even if precautions are taken and this time the risk is definitely known and it is much more. If Kundan cant be kidnapped because he is a minor, how can Nimboli be placed in a dangerous known situation? That too when the outcome may not be favourable. And Jagya is also a lawmaker.

Whether Anandi anticipated anything or not, nothing justifies her taking her infant child to her place of work - especially a work place that she too was not aware of. Even if Akheraj wasn't as bad as he is, still Anandi should not have taken Nandini to stop child marriage. It's insensible of a mother.

The excuse that she didn't have time is not an acceptable one, because even if the marriage had happened she could have always annuled it.

Jagya has taken Nimboli, as a last choice and that too when the abductor has specifically asked for her. Taking Nandiini to stop bal vivah, was not Anandi's last choice. She had other choices.
The least she could have done is ask Ira or someone to collect N from mid-way, if she didn't want to go all the way home inorder to save time.

The problem is not what Anandi could have done, the problem is Anand cannot or doesn't want to think. She only prefers to act impulsively under her misguided sense of goodness.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Missesha

Whether Anandi anticipated anything or not, nothing justifies her taking her infant child to her place of work - especially a work place that she too was not aware of. Even if Akheraj wasn't as bad as he is, still Anandi should not have taken Nandini to stop child marriage. It's insensible of a mother.

The excuse that she didn't have time is not an acceptable one, because even if the marriage had happened she could have always annuled it.

Jagya has taken Nimboli, as a last choice and that too when the abductor has specifically asked for her. Taking Nandiini to stop bal vivah, was not Anandi's last choice. She had other choices.
The least she could have done is ask Ira or someone to collect N from mid-way, if she didn't want to go all the way home inorder to save time.

The problem is not what Anandi could have done, the problem is Anand cannot or doesn't want to think. She only prefers to act impulsively under her misguided sense of goodness.



You are giving a very clean chit to Jagya citing so many excuses.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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If Nandini was not kidnapped, anandi would not have been blamed endlessly for taking the girl to her workplace. That means anth bhala tho sab bhala.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Anandi called up police before she reached there.
So it is not like she went there without taking precautions.
She did tell Ira that she feels it will not be dangerous because police would be there.

This is the same Anandi who used to rush to the place without even thinking of asking police help and used to face guns risk bullets and jump off the widows on first floor.
The Anandi we saw in Kundan Pooja wedding was a far cry from reckless Anandi who took risks.

She was arguing with them and asking them to stop the wedding but the moment police told her to move away she moved away and removed herself from the way of bullets and all because she had a baby in her arms.

The only time she lost her head was when she saw Akheraj approaching towards her.was when Akheraj while trying to run away from the place saw Anandi behind the wall in order to keep her daughter and herself safe.

So it can't be said that the kidnap happened solely because of Anandi but because people like Akheraj exist.

All the times she has stopped child marriages police invariably got the situation under control and took the offending parents into custody and sent the children to temporary shelter.So she had good enough reasons to rely on police support.



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Posted: 9 years ago
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@ Leaves, No I am not giving a clean chit to Jagya. He is risking too much and he may not be right, but I can' blame him simply because his decision to risk so much, is a thoughtful decision taken as a last resort.


I am blaming Anandi, because hers was a decision taken in a spur of a moment and it wasn't taken as a last resort. She always had the option of securing Nandini, before setting out for her mission.

Anandi is being criticised, simply for being unthoughtful.

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