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Posted: 12 years ago
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did bv cvs says that there is should be no severe punishment for rapist ? .giving lecture for self defense that does not mean cvs r against severe punishment of rapist .through this lecture cvs want to create awarness and courage in women bv cvs is not stopping u from doing self defence as well as wanting severe punishment for rapist .u r free to choose both
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Very very good step taken by Bv makers.👍🏼.Now days the sexual harassment is the most pathetic part of our society.In daily life most of the women getting victimized of this .i always believe that prevention is better than cure.
GOOD GOING BV MAKERS ...KEEP IT UP.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malika

Teaching women martial arts makes them stronger?? 🤔 I think its a mockery of a women's strength. If she can give birth to a child shes is obviously strong. By nature she has been made physically delicate and internally strong.And its expected that men respect that.And if they fail to do so law shud make them do it.

Kiran - I think we shu7d step out of this topic because most here r not intrested in answering and counter replying our honest queries.They are just keen to prove their point.If u want to answer pls tell:

How can u protect handicapped girls from molestation with self defence?

How can u protect 6-7 old year girls using self-defence??

How can u protect ill or injured girls using self defence??

How can u protect pregnent women with self defence??

How can u protect foreign nations from molestation with self defence.

Answer and i shall stand convinced.

@ Red Self defence does not work in those cases.
More active preventive measures are required.
Increase the security measures in public transport systems presence of security personale should be made mandatory.
Make the security forces and police forces more empowered to take preventive action

Teach small children both boys and girls when to recognise danger - There is video teaching children how to recognise bad touch.
Teach those little children to open up to their parents
Sicko🤬minds are not scared of laws they will go to jail and come back and continue with their activities.
Teaching self defence is only one of the things that can be done.
While we educate the our next generation to respect fellow human beings we need to have more preventive measures along with strict laws which improve the conviction rate.
Teaching self defence or spreading awareness of safety measures by no meand a useless act.As I something is better than nothing.
We have country were law makers tell their female citizens not to dress in such and such way not to go out of the house.So we cannot bank on our so called leaders and elected representatives.
We only have ourselves to rely on.

Bottom line is punishing the rapists and strict laws to improve the conviction rate are not just enough.
Preventive measures have to be in place too.Good governance is all about preventing a rape from happening in the first place.
Preventive measures should come from both government and citizens.
Hope the media uses their voice and their ability to reach out to people does something in that direction.
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As for why it is being shown in the show why the collector is doing this.
It is called creative licence.
They have taken creative licence a lot of times before too.As long it raises a point which is socially relevant it doesn't matter who raises the issue.
This same collector went and sat in panchayat where the sarpanchjee delivered judgement on her ex pati.Collector had no business to be there at that time.But I remember people supporting the collector at that time.



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Posted: 12 years ago
#74
rapist can get severe punishment but women mental condition is destroy after rape so self defence is much needed for women
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Posted: 12 years ago
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We are talking about self- defense. You see most of the rapists are the laborers or from the lower strata of society hailing from Bihar & UP where illitreacy is on rise & the Govt schools hardly providing education. How can we expect demonstration of self defense to girls where there is lack of basic education. Only a stringent law , in this context can minimise rape cases. Self defense along with strict laws is the need of the hour. We can, to some extent appreciate BV makers for taking up the cause .Self defense might be helpful for strong built woman.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malika

Teaching women martial arts makes them stronger?? 🤔 I think its a mockery of a woman's strength. If she can give birth to a child shes obviously strong. By nature she has been made physically delicate and internally strong.And its expected that men respect that.And if they fail to do so law shud make them do it.

Kiran - I think we shu7d step out of this topic because most here r not intrested in answering and counter replying our honest queries.They are just keen to prove their point.If u want to answer pls tell:

How can u protect handicapped girls from molestation with self defence?

How can u protect 6-7 yr old girls using self-defence??

How can u protect ill or injured girls using self defence??

How can u protect pregnant women with self defence??

How can u protect foreign nationals from molestation with self defence.

Answer and i shall stand convinced.


Malika I agree with you. I am a foreigner, I wanted to come to India 3 years ago. But have been postponing it because it is not safe there.
Not all of us is expert in self defense, yes there are one or two who can defend a single male but what if they come in groups?
Self defense is good and it depends on how long it takes a female to learn full concept.
We should never compare our own Country with others, but always try to have a better and solid law then others to protect ourselves.
How about a six year old child, at what age she should start self defense?
First and foremost is to educate the males the value of females, change their mindset.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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If people here thinking that m againsd this track only coz AnSh involvd here not JaGan, then I want to clear, my thought will be the same if even JaGan involved here. I hope cvs will not give any wrong msg coz there are many young teenage girls who watch this show.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@kiranlovesshriti
It's not about AnSh or JaGan.
What they have shown in that video was aimed at girls/women who move around attending colleges and work.

For different groups that preventive measures applied should be different.

In fact even small children there are defence classes available.Where children are taught to get away from any body who they find suspicious.There are training classes available for children.They teach both small boys and girls.Kids cannot fight they are trained to get away from danger.

I keep saying self defence is not the only thing but a very important thing because strict laws alone are not of a help.

There have to be lot of things done in lot of different directions.So we should applaud BV for taking this issue up.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: aparnauma

@ Red Self defence does not work in those cases.
More active preventive measures are required.
Increase the security measures in public transport systems presence of security personale should be made mandatory.


Make the security forces and police forces more empowered to take preventive action

Teach small children both boys and girls when to recognise danger - There is video teaching children how to recognise bad touch.
Teach those little children to open up to their parents

But all these solutions are back to square one...arent they?We might have gaurds to arrest nuisance makers but is it of any use if law allows them to roam free?Whats the use of teaching kids to identify bad touch jab the person whose doing it will be released within a few months.If harsh punishments like death penalty are enforced ppl will think 100 times before doing such crimes.Any man's sexual satisfaction or sense of exploitation cannot be greater than their love for life.Everyone is scared of life threatening punishments.

Sicko🤬minds are not scared of laws they will go to jail and come back and continue with their activities.

Teaching self defence is only one of the things that can be done.
While we educate the our next generation to respect fellow human beings we need to have more preventive measures along with strict laws which improve the conviction rate.
Teaching self defence or spreading awareness of safety measures by no meand a useless act.As I something is better than nothing.

But will it change the scenario by any means??When a majority of women cannot be protected with self-defense who is gonna stop??And really is it the right approach?? A woman has a lot of important stuff in her life.She has to go to work...handle her home...take care of her children.And to add to it she shud also spare time for learning martial arts.Why cant the govt secure the rights of the women?

We have country were law makers tell their female citizens not to dress in such and such way not to go out of the house.So we cannot bank on our so called leaders and elected representatives.
We only have ourselves to rely on.

If they are showing that even a District collector prefers depending on ourselves than government then i dont know what to say.

Bottom line is punishing the rapists and strict laws to improve the conviction rate are not just enough.
Preventive measures have to be in place too.Good governance is all about preventing a rape from happening in the first place.
Preventive measures should come from both government and citizens.
Hope the media uses their voice and their ability to reach out to people does something in that direction.
---------------------------
As for why it is being shown in the show why the collector is doing this.
It is called creative licence.
They have taken creative licence a lot of times before too.As long it raises a point which is socially relevant it doesn't matter who raises the issue.
This same collector went and sat in panchayat where the sarpanchjee delivered judgement on her ex pati.Collector had no business to be there at that time.But I remember people supporting the collector at that time.





If they really wished to address this issue with a positive approach they shud have shown Shiv/Jagya conducting a class for the males.They should have shown how such cases are neglected by the government. As a woman if I dont have time or dont like to learn martial arts why it shud be a compulsion for me? Just like saying women shud wear long dresses is not a viable solution...teaching them martial arts too isnt.Rather its a wrong approach in the first place.You are promoting the idea that we live in a society where neither law will protect us nor will men change themselves so we will only have to do everything ourselves.But I ask if tomorrow like rapes murders too become so common...will they teach women to carry pistols and knives with them?

And i would like to add there have been many cases where women tried to answer with martial arts/self-defense and they ended up being harassed more.Because they stood against criminals they had to face acid attacks and attacks on their families.The conclusion is that w/o a strong law nothing can be done.And our duty is not to sit with a pessimistic view that "law will not do anything for us we shud do ourselves" rather we as a society we need to force the govt to protect our rights.

If our freedom fighters too had not gone against govt and forced them to see our plight we would have been under british law till now.Its abt challenging the law to do the needful.If thats done taking small measures of care wont be a great issue.Then even a simple pepper spray or chilli powder will work because rarely men will try to attempt such things.
Edited by Malika - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
#80
what self defense technique bv cvs want to show ?.unable to watch video

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