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Posted: 12 years ago
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i agree with you.

"Sumitra wants a rich , virgin as her bahu and is threatened by the sympathy that Jagya has for the abused woman as she is very young . "


How does sumitra know saanchi is virgin.
Sumitra is terrible person she has different set of rules for her daughters n different for other people.



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Posted: 12 years ago
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😆 Sumitra not a terrible person - she is just a very real and very flawed human being that's all.

No matter what most people tell you - the difference between a bahu and a beti always stays. A bahu may earn the right to be treated and loved almost like a beti with hard work and love and care over a long time, but a beti automatically is born with that privilege.

Anandi was loved by the Singhs coz she came to their house at a very young age and has spent years and years there and earned their trust and love. But the very same Anandi cannot hope to win that same implicit trust and love of the Shekhars that they have for Saanchi in this short a while.

And so it is with Sumi. To her Anandi is her own as the association goes back for a long time. But Ganga is a newbie and is just about as old here in BH as Anandi is in Udaipur.

So, the trust and love given to Anandi and Sanchi in their respective houses cannot be this easily given to Ganga and now Anandi in their new homes.

It is but natural.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sumitra's fears and other biases (in relation to Anandi-Ganga comparisons) are not misplaced. Such things happen given a person's age and what she has seen in her life.But her insensitivity, wrong choice of words and shouting in a hospital itself are not justified.
She has forgotten those days when she would stand silently terrorised as DS kept insulting her and humiliating her family also, even at family functions? How bad she used to feel and how she used to sob in her room?
At least as a woman and from her own experiences of public humiliation, she should have tried to be more sensitive towards Ganga!
And has her own family been free from flaws? NO! She cringes at Ganga being a divorcee and not a virgin. But has forgottten what her own daughter was! Forgotten how she and Bhairon had to convince Shyam's family with folded hands each time in Sugna's case. Forgotten how hurt they felt when Ira barked at Anandi for being a child bride and divorcee. Forgotten what past her own son had!

Even in her insecurity and dislike, Sumitra crossed limits.

Frankly I do think Ganga's own feelings are not taken into account by Singhs. They keep struggling amongst themselves on how to tackle her and nobody thinks about what she might want or might be going through.

They have chosen strange ways of "helping her" in first place! Who keeps a woman in their house like family, puts her in their kitchen, dining room, puja ghar and festivals like any other member of the family? They made her part of all festival celebrations and she did ceremonies with other women of the house.

Why didn't Sumitra object then? And why didn't she think this would result in her getting attached with the family?

Why be angry at Ganga if Sumi has sensed she has feelings for Jagya?

They did not keep even little Gudiya, Phooli, Gulli, daayan woman etc. at their house. Then why only Ganga?

Even in the house, instead of keeping her "at a distance" they made her part of family.

Now Sumitra wants her at a distance, while others have concerns out of humanity for her but she is not exactly "family" for anyone to really care about how she might feel!

Ganga's case is like that of Waheeda Rehman's character in Khamoshi. She just gets told on what to do. Then she is thanked and praised for her "job". No one thinks the woman might have feelings, self respect and a heart of her own.

It is a relief that the woman is strong and has her son to keep her sane and make her feel valued. Or else she'd have become mad.

Singhs have to consult, discuss and conclude on how to deal with Ganga. Reach some consensus. Otherwise it won't work, rather it will harm Ganga also, while creating quarrels in their own family too.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Truthseeker

This is the first time our Jaggu bhai MBBS has taken over the responsibility ofa victim . So he is going over board and is not knowing where to cut things. When his whole family had helped so many victims before and also accepted this one at the beginning, he can give a benefit of doubt to his mothers fears and address them straight forwardly. He could have arranged a place for ganga to stay somewhere else. But no...she had to only stay in "their"house, in their hospital and is expected to come back and work in their hospital after finishing the courses too . Why is this victim so special compared to all the other victims they helped? What happened to phooli and the daayan woman? In which world are they living now?

DS was the best in this whole episode. She was happy on one hand to see ganga safe and on the other hand trying to understand sumi's concerns too without pouncing on her or demonizing her like the rest of the members. Love her for that!

Disagreed where Jaggu bhai MBBS is going over board not knowing where to cut things its Sumitra getting over board with her madness ?why he should give a benefit of doubt to Sumitra's absurd fears and cut all cords with Ganga because mataj jee is afraid 🤪because so called great mother will get heart attack he will try to help Ganga anyhow she has been clear she does not want anyone to even take her name so only option listen to bechari mata jee na and throw Ganga out she is calling Ganga curse he should also be giving benefit of doubt to mata jee since she is so great 🤪Her fears are baseless so why he should not correct her but encourage her giving her benefits of doubts..Did he alone brought Ganga at house Miss Sumitra was jumping at that time Did she ever try to share anything with him always she did things behind his back now she is yelling🤢 Where he is not dealing with her fears straight away so what he is doing but why he should be doing all why this loser mother cannot understand son even for once 🤢What he is suppose to do Ganga is not staying with Singhs now staying in hospital quarters is purely for professional purpose she is a talented nurse if he want her to work in hospital what takleef sumitra has O tommorrow mata jee will get afraid of any other nurse so he should be kicking his staff out for mata jee Why she cannot work in jaitser hospital ?


No one was pouncing at her It was Sumitra like a mad bull pouncing on everyone because she has lost it and DS was also having disgust for her when she was yelling Sumitra shameless she was yelling at DS too anyways DS will get disappointed too the one who couldn't be of her husband or son's here will listen to DS a lot 🤢
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Truthseeker


Keep all your eye rolls, wackos and dead emoticons to urself. No interest in replying in detail to you. such a waste of time. I value it(i mean time)😎

you don't need to be so rude those were for Sumitra not for you but i didn't know you are so rude anyways no need to waste your precious time on me keep your illogical nonsense stuff to yourself and so your attitude and Thanks for not replying even i cannot waste my time in reading your baseless stuff no interest to talk with your either i value time too not someone like you

by the way a big boooh for your pathetic comment next time if cannot reply don't reply because you don't have answer it is pretty clear but keep your attitude to yourself You are not so great who has great time if you comment on forum so be ready for replies for as well if you don;t have replies then calmly move out no need to show yourself great No one is interested to talk with you either

bye
Edited by saba113 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hooked

I think what is needed is - clarity about Sumitra's feelings, fears, thoughts, ambitions.


We have seen her being loving n caring for Ganga n taking good care of her sick child too. So why this irrational hatred - knowing Ratan is safely behind bars without any hope of an early release ??

I hope the CV's will show us Sumi's demons n also show Dadisa chasing those demons away n bring back the sweet sane loving Sumi she has always been.


@bold that is what needed and I am sure that is the thing creatives will not show because they love to paint someone black to make the other one more white and such things will also help them to drag the show. If the family had listen to Sumitra, or if they understood her fears, such drastic steps like Ganga leaving at night would not be possible to show. They did this to gain more sympathy for Ganga and for this reason, nobody was injured badly even after fractured skull and all the torture. If Gahna had lost her baby during the ordeal, if Jagya and Bhairo were admitted in ICU due to their injuries, there would have been less sympathy for Ganga because that is what Sumitra feared. (I do not think the analogy of people helping Jews during world war can be given in this case because the people helped their neighbours etc. i.e. known people, here Ganga was unknown to haveli people, so helping her even at the cost of probable loss of lives of family members is OTT).

Coming to Sumitra, I do feel that apart from security of her family, she also does not like closeness of Ganga with her son.


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Truthseeker



Keep all your eye rolls, wackos and dead emoticons to urself. No interest in replying in detail to you. such a waste of time. I value it(i mean time)😎

this is heights of rudeness what kind of way is this to talk with anyone your reply was not for me but reading it i felt disgusted

This is so disrespectful Learn to respect members here

Edited by AdorableAnusha - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Truthseeker

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Keep all your eye rolls, wackos and dead emoticons to urself. No interest in replying in detail to you. such a waste of time. I value it(i mean time)😎

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: champawati

i agree with you.


"Sumitra wants a rich , virgin as her bahu and is threatened by the sympathy that Jagya has for the abused woman as she is very young . "


How does sumitra know saanchi is virgin.
Sumitra is terrible person she has different set of rules for her daughters n different for other people.




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Agreed

thats her naivette dear , her rural bholapan

she is so naive that she doesn't foresee that she will lose control over her son if he marries the bahu of HER choice ...Saanchi . Whereas this girl will stay in her control , indebted to her

Constantly she implies that the woman has done jadoo on u , ur smitten by her , ADMIT IT

The moment Saanchi gets Jagya , her next move will be to cut him off from his family coz its ways stifle her

All this Ma and good bahu natak will go . Just like Sumitra has become vocal today she will become openly vocal in Jagdish's absence ...the reason for her to wear a mask won't remain .
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: saba113

you don't need to be so rude those were for Sumitra not for you but i didn't know you are so rude anyways no need to waste your precious time on me keep your illogical nonsense stuff to yourself and so your attitude and Thanks for not replying even i cannot waste my time in reading your baseless stuff no interest to talk with your either i value time too not someone like you


by the way a big boooh for your pathetic comment next time if cannot reply don't reply because you don't have answer it is pretty clear but keep your attitude to yourself You are not so great who has great time if you comment on forum so be ready for replies for as well if you don;t have replies then calmly move out no need to show yourself great No one is interested to talk with you either

bye



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Edited by shalinii173 - 12 years ago

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