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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#11

Suchi i think Jagya will marry Ganga and Sumitra will give her hell ...yes , the hate will be more then ...

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#12

But sectoreight she brought it on herself , she was asking him pointed blunt questions in front of her and the family

he did not even want to talk on the topic , he was forced to when Sumitra backed him in a corner

regarding working in the jaitser hospital ...i think it is bcoz its safer for a woman to work in a known place than anywhere in rural india ...its quite unsafe for a young woman .

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FatehTejo

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Posted: 12 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: yanks28
wow first off tonight's episode was absolutely outstanding and the acting was in a league of its own...the Singhs ROCK!!

Sumitra's problem is multifaceted. I was waiting for her to ask Jagya what she asked him today. What's your relationship with Ganga? What kind of a relationship and he gave exactly the answer I was predicting he would give and it's one which should have shut her up but it didn't. She's infected with hatred for Ganga now...her expressions when she saw Mannu and Ganga were pretty scary...she thinks they're like a plague...I think even she knows that Ganga no longer poses a "danger" and Ratan will probably rot in hell from here onwards...but her problem isn't the danger so much as it is the fact that she actually hates Ganga now. Today she took off that mask which she wore when giving her blessings to Ganga in front of her family, without pure intentions.

I think her main problem is JaGan...she's trying to understand why Jagya is so loyal to her, what's keeping him glued to her? She fears it's more than "insaaniyat ka rishta"...and I think she may be right...Jagya is so protective of Ganga and today sealed it...he would do anything and everything to make sure she's happy, even go against his mother...he told her that Ganga will go to Bangalore and once she's finished, she will come right back here and work, no where else...here, in MY hospital...and that killed Sumitra.

Sumitra's hatred of Ganga is here to stay...this is just the beginning...Jagya will break his rishta with Sanchi and then Sumitra will have her back against the wall bec she'll have no one to support her...and she will think she has truly lost her son to Ganga...so yeah, it's going to go on till post marriage...the marriage will probably be with everyone's approval except Sumitra's.

👏👏 we have same thinking. I totally agree with you. But for us is important JAGAN. And Sumitra is nothing in that 😊

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000

regarding working in the jaitser hospital ...i think it is bcoz its safer for a woman to work in a known place than anywhere in rural india ...its quite unsafe for a young woman .

I never said that Ganga should not work in Jaitser after the nursing course.

I said that even if he wanted to bring her back after the course, there was no need for this open defiance towards sumitra or bringing this up now, when everything is volatile.

I said that Ganga should finish her course (three years)... and this was a matter that could have been dealt with three years down the road. It did not have to be a sticking point right at this red hot minute.

He could easily have hired Ganga after three years at the hospital. Who was stopping him?

But to bring it up now was not tactful.

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000
But sectoreight she brought it on herself , she was asking him pointed blunt questions in front of her and the family

he did not even want to talk on the topic , he was forced to when Sumitra backed him in a corner

Sumitra is still his mother, and even if she brought this up herself, it would have been very becoming if Jagya had excused himself from the situation and said "lets have this showdown at home mom".

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

#16

Koolsadhu,

you and I have different views on this maybe.

I feel that we only have one set of parents, so even if parents are wrong, one has to forgive them and move on. Even if correction is required for parents, it has to be gentle correction. One cannot scream at them as if they are our equals or subordinates. Jagya too has made many mistakes, and his parents have accepted him even after that. Fair enough, sumitra is paranoid and feeling snubbed, but still... 😆

The only reason Jagya is in a position to state that Ganga can come back to the hospital after three years is because his parents gave him that hospital to begin with. One has to see the whole holistic picture. Without his own hospital, Jagya would not have been able to survive in any job in the real world -- we saw what happened. He was reduced to alcoholism and being kicked around by people like a pariah. Today, he has the hospital and does "grrr" to the very woman who supported his entry back into the household??

I am not saying Jagya is wrong. But he cannot deal with sumitra like he would deal with some other woman.

Edited by sectoreight - 12 years ago

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: sectoreight

Sumitra is still his mother, and even if she brought this up herself, it would have been very becoming if Jagya had excused himself from the situation and said "lets have this showdown at home mom".

I disagree !

Jagya had so far just suspected that his mom was making Ganga uncomfortable and G is too polite and obligated to ever say so. But today - Sumi proved to him that she can't bear Ganga not just in her house but anywhere near him and that is not sumi's place to decide.

J is the Hospital in-caahrge. He is not just her son here. Sumi is not part of the HR here that her stamp of approval is reqd for everyone who gets hired. Sumi was overstepping her boundaries and insulting Ganga and having a royal tantrum and Jagya and Bhairon needed to put her in her place.

I think when she asked J - how far will you support her - and he replied - till she completes her course and comes back - he didn't need to hold back. He did the right thing.

Ganga needed to know also where she stands. She needed to know that she has a plce ready for her after she completed her training. As faar as Sumi is concerned - that shud be sufficient. He hasn't said I'll postpone my own life n my wedding till after she comes back now - has he ?

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: sectoreight
Koolsadhu,

you and I have different views on this maybe.

I feel that we only have one set of parents, so even if parents are wrong, one has to forgive them and move on. Even if correction is required for parents, it has to be gentle correction. One cannot scream at them as if they are our equals or subordinates. Jagya too has made many mistakes, and his parents have accepted him even after that. Fair enough, sumitra is paranoid and feeling snubbed, but still... 😆

The only reason Jagya is in a position to state that Ganga can come back to the hospital after three years is because his parents gave him that hospital to begin with. One has to see the whole holistic picture. Without his own hospital, Jagya would not have been able to survive in any job in the real world -- we saw what happened. He was reduced to alcoholism and being kicked around by people like a pariah. Today, he has the hospital and does "grrr" to the very woman who supported his entry back into the household??

I am not saying Jagya is wrong. But he cannot deal with sumitra like he would deal with some other woman.

I think now you are being grossly unfair.

He was doing quite well in Mumbai and was quite friendly, his problems came from another front. His guilt about Anandi and his feeling cut-off from home and Gauri's constant games. Everytime he found another job - it was Gauri who advised him against it on the pretext of wanting him to study and then she belittled him for living off her. Jagya was living a hell for reasons other than what you suggest.

And here too - he never made any issue. DS warned them both to cool off but Sumi went on ranting. J just made his stand very clear, Right now - he's not a baby to be scolded like she did. He's an adult and shud be treated as such and especially here where he is a professional. He is Dr. Jagdish - but she's screaming like she's at hiome !!? She's totally lost it.

Bhairon also said - only Jagya has the right to decide who gets hired at the hospi - no one else.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: sectoreight
Koolsadhu,

you and I have different views on this maybe.

I feel that we only have one set of parents, so even if parents are wrong, one has to forgive them and move on. Even if correction is required for parents, it has to be gentle correction. One cannot scream at them as if they are our equals or subordinates. Jagya too has made many mistakes, and his parents have accepted him even after that. Fair enough, sumitra is paranoid and feeling snubbed, but still... 😆

The only reason Jagya is in a position to state that Ganga can come back to the hospital after three years is because his parents gave him that hospital to begin with. One has to see the whole holistic picture. Without his own hospital, Jagya would not have been able to survive in any job in the real world -- we saw what happened. He was reduced to alcoholism and being kicked around by people like a pariah. Today, he has the hospital and does "grrr" to the very woman who supported his entry back into the household??

I am not saying Jagya is wrong. But he cannot deal with sumitra like he would deal with some other woman.

sectorereight i see it this way

why just the hospital , parents give us our existence . Sumitra and Bhairon have made him what he is and it is a debt that can perhaps never be repaid .

and when he improved and came back to his roots he has tried to pay that debt , infact he agreed to the marraige with Saanchi only and only coz Sumitra told him think of the repercussions ur decision will have on Anandi's life.

He respected her fears .

And moulded his decision accordingly .

but today

not making it a family talk but making a tamasha in a public place was HER deliberate choice .

This choice was made not just bcoz she wanted to convey her fears to her son but also bcoz she wanted to screech and convey to that abused woman that don't ever dream of becoming my bahu .

Hence the constant question ...what is ur rishta with her .

The question tells her real reason . It is a womanly fear . Ratan Singh is only the upper crust .

Even in the haveli showdown she had said furiously , god knows what she has written in that letter that ur talking to ur mother this way .

Constantly the implications r ur smitten by that woman , she has done a jadoo on u , and turned u against me , so much so that u refuse to see reason .

It is a very petty deduction and blame on the son , coz nothing like that is in his mind .

It is fear that his sympathy will turn into attraction coz the woman is youthful and nice .

It is also mistaken fear that she will lose control and some other woman will control her son but so naive is she that she does not know that this possibility is more with the the bahu she selected...Saanchi , not eager to please Ganga who is loyal to their salt .

Easily she could have gone home and have a private show down with her son but she chose to make tamasha in public place

she started asking blunt , pointed , embarassing questions to son

son did not disrespect her but gave her 2 befitting replies

it is a rishta of humanity

u call a woman who brings bad luck apshaguni what will u say about a woman who brings good to ur family mother

Just bcoz u brought the son in the world and gave him a vocation by investing in his business or hospital does not mean u can insult him in a public place and then expect him to follow the etiquettes of being an indian well bred son

As far as i see it , he did not disrespect her at all but she sure crossed the line and made tamasha at his work place .

Edited by koolsadhu1000 - 12 years ago

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sectoreight

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Posted: 12 years ago

#20

Koolsadhu,

everything you said is correct, but even then I am of the view that Jagya handled it wrong.

I feel that even if sumitra was 100% wrong, Jagya still had an obligation to carry and turn the situation.

He could easily have walked out after saying "I will not have this discussion here, if you want to talk to me, we will do it at home ... and kindly modify your tone when talking to me".

But as I said, that is my view. It need not be a view that you share.

Even if my mother is vile towards me, even if she takes her frustrations out on me, I feel "this is my mother" -- I don't stand there having a slanging match with her in public, even if she wants to slang me in public.

But others may, and are free to do so.

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