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Posted: 12 years ago
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@ Nivi: Oooh, Nivi!Yeh hain aapka asli name! LOL...k...tell you a secret...Sia is not my real name...its my nickname! The alphabets Sia do feature in my real name though! 😛

And LOL...not to be disrespectful or anything but I am so infrequent on IF that even if I do get a warning or something, I wouldn't notice for sometime. Hahaha!

And no...not a regular follower aajkal coz of the research work but i do know on and off aajkal kya chal raha hai- I do stalk the AnSh AT sometimes- read all your discussions on AnSh and all the beautiful creations- I see the regulars still there- You, Anj, Aparna, Khushi, Suchi etc and some new names! Aha, suddenly dimag ki batti jaling- I do remember people addressing you as Nivi! haha!

But I feel if I drop in, Ill end up writing/ talking a lot- jaise aaj ho raha hai- I just DONT know how to post one liners! LOL ...god help me!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: wuthering

@ Nivi: Oooh, Nivi!Yeh hain aapka asli name! LOL...k...tell you a secret...Sia is not my real name...its my nickname! The alphabets Sia do feature in my real name though! 😛


And LOL...not to be disrespectful or anything but I am so infrequent on IF that even if I do get a warning or something, I wouldn't notice for sometime. Hahaha!

And no...not a regular follower aajkal coz of the research work but i do know on and off aajkal kya chal raha hai- I do stalk the AnSh AT sometimes- read all your discussions on AnSh and all the beautiful creations- I see the regulars still there- You, Anj, Aparna, Khushi, Suchi etc and some new names! Aha, suddenly dimag ki batti jaling- I do remember people addressing you as Nivi! haha!

But I feel if I drop in, Ill end up writing/ talking a lot- jaise aaj ho raha hai- I just DONT know how to post one liners! LOL ...god help me!

Well.. what I told you is part of my name too.. Tongue Poora nahi hai. Khusi ka nickname.
@bold: Exactly ! This is what I miss, you and your thesis. 😆
Before Suchi throws us out of her thread for chatting, you better come to the AT and we can chat there.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SiriuslySujal

Having not actually watched this track, I am limited in terms of how much I can comment. One thing I will say, though, is that I think it's ridiculous that Ratan Singh could be shown to have a bunch of goons under his thumb. I'm pretty sure he was not introduced as somebody rich/influential/powerful! Someone like Heth Singh has the power to have goons etc. Rat was an ordinary man with an ordinary income as far as I'm aware. For the sake of sensationalism and regaining their lost TRPs, they took convenient leaps of logic and adopted cheap Ekta-like storylines. So no, in my opinion, the CVs do not deserve a pat on the back.



More than the CVs, I am disappointed in the audience on whom this tactic was actually successful... but I guess people have different tastes, and most viewers are not as invested in the quality of the show as we are... so I guess they must have seen the masaledaar promos of the haveli burning down and thought, "Oh, that looks exciting and interesting! Chalo dekh lete hai ke kya hoga BH waale ka". But "exciting and interesting" does not necessarily mean that a track is of good quality or has any deeper meaning or merit or creative originality about it. And that is what the CVs are lacking, and to be honest have been lacking since AnSh's marriage. It is painfully evident that they did not plan ahead in terms of how the plot would progress after the grand nuptials, since it was after this that the lack of direction started. The replacement only served to make the cracks that were starting to appear all the more evident. So yeah... the CVs still REALLY need to get their act together, and I think after all these months of them not having it together, that probably won't happen again in whatever remains of the show's run. And hence I don't reckon this massive upwards shift in TRPs will last now that the "ZOMG WILL DADISA AND CO. BE BURNED ALIVE" sensationalism has passed.


In terms of the actors... I personally cannot bear to watch Toral on screen. I tried numerous times to watch BV after the replacement and every time I saw Toral, I felt physical pain. I couldn't bear to see Shiv with a woman who was so blatantly not Anandi to me in mannerisms, looks, quirks, character, anything. It may sound silly, but I felt betrayed on so many levels. Of course the supporting cast are amazing and deserve plenty of accolades, but frankly, I watched the show primarily for Prats' Anandi, and once that was gone, everything else in the show kind of lost meaning and lustre for me. But of course veterans like Surekha ji and Anup Soni should be applauded for their endless good work and consistency, as should the younger lot like Sriti and Shashank (ESPECIALLY Shashank 😳). Indeed, it is the dedicated supporting cast who are now keeping this show afloat, since they all are far better than the actress who is supposed to be playing the centrepoint of the entire plot. So kudos to all of them, but no kudos to the CVs... at least not from my side.



@ SiriuslySujal 👍🏼 I agree.. Even I wanted to say almost the same points but failed to express my thoughts...

PS.. would have replied to this post earlier but being a Newbie "IF Forum" was telling me that I have exhausted my posts for the day..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: wuthering

I agree Suchi! Its a marvel that BV is still among the top 5 shows across ALL channels and full credit to the CVs and the exemplary cast for that!


Another thing- I feel that the story line in the immediate aftermath of AnSh wedding seemed a little shaky but seems like the CVs have found their footing once again- with multiple characters having their own stories going on. Now, the fact that it WAS shaky initially- is not exactly the CVs fault.

I have noticed this pattern in most shows- once the lead protagonists get married- there IS a dearth of story lines that revolve around them. Mind you, this does not apply to shows which have active Kitchen Saas Bahu politics as their premise or shows where the leads get married as soon as the show begins. BV was building up towards AnSh marriage for the greater part of last year and its a given that the CVs will take time and shift the focus away from them. As it is, BV has never focused on one couples story for the good part of its running- we have had multiple couples being the focus of the show during its 5 year course- Kid JaAn, Shyam-Sugna, Grown up JaAn, Jagya Gauri and more recently, it was AnSh. So naturally, now, its the time for Jagya-Ganga.

Also, one thing I have been wanting to comment on since a long time- I dont understand the hatred towards Toral in the forum. I get it, I am not a fan of her either and am not exactly very impressed by her acting. But if someone does not like her, is it really IMPORTANT to criticize her every opportunity a person gets? If you don't like her, don't watch her. Simple. And its one thing to criticize but the constant comments on her physical attributes is just sad. And also, by reading the plethora of comments on the forum, its as if, Toral was responsible in Pratyusha getting the sack. I was sad that Pratyusha was replaced too. I feel Toral will take a whole lot of time (?) to ever match up to Pratyusha, if at all; but that does not mean I channel my sadness that P is gone by hating on Toral. JMO.

Anyways, getting back to topic...agree with you Suchi! Kudos to the CVs once again!




Sia - good to see u after a long time!! 😊

I would just like to say that ppl criticize Toral bcoz they loved Anandi and AnSh.They loved a place known as the AnSh AT.It was really sad the way things shaped up on the very first day of the news of replacement.Ppl who were still trying to digest the news were ordered "not to flood the AT with their tears"🤢...on the very first day it was said that its good now anandis sarees wud fit better.To add to it ppl were shown the way to a separate thread and not to spoil the mood of the AT.And mind u all this happened on the first day of the news breaking itself.On the first epi some ppl were going gaga over the new actress as if P never existed.She was accused of ditching BV.statements like "jis thali mein khate hain usmein ched krte hain" were made.the anger the hatred u see on this forum is not just abt replacement...its abt a new actress spoiling a couple...its abt ppl raving falsely abt an incompetent actress just 2 prove their point...its abt pratyusha being treated by ppl as if she never existed...its abt being made to feel that if u cnt praise toral u cant enter the ansh at irrespective of how good friendship was there...its abt some new ppl coming and adding oil to fire...ppl who didnt hv the damn audacity to enter our AT when ansh flourished...its abt broken frnships and trusts,ITS JUST NOT ABOUT A REPLACEMENT!!And together this anger is expressed on channel(for not giving us a chance to prepare ourselves for the sudden change) and on Toral(for spoiling Anandi whom we loved dearly)
Edited by Malika - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@Mallika e kalam A standing ovation to u :-D
And to add one more point.Its also abt P being called a skeleton on the first day of the replacement.
So called AnSh fans coming out of their closet to show blind hatred towards Pratz and availing this opp to drive away SY fans.
Toral will bear the burnt coz she is an opportunist.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malika

I would just like to say that ppl criticize Toral bcoz they loved Anandi and AnSh.They loved a place known as the AnSh AT.It was really sad the way things shaped up on the very first day of the news of replacement.Ppl who were still trying to digest the news were ordered "not to flood the AT with their tears"🤢...on the very first day it was said that its good now anandis sarees wud fit better.To add to it ppl were shown the way to a separate thread and not to spoil the mood of the AT.And mind u all this happened on the first day of the news breaking itself.On the first epi some ppl were going gaga over the new actress as if P never existed.She was accused of ditching BV.statements like "jis thali mein khate hain usmein ched krte hain" were made.the anger the hatred u see on this forum is not just abt replacement...its abt a new actress spoiling a couple...its abt ppl raving falsely abt an incompetent actress just 2 prove their point...its abt pratyusha being treated by ppl as if she never existed...its abt being made to feel that if u cnt praise toral u cant enter the ansh at irrespective of how good friendship was there...its abt some new ppl coming and adding oil to fire...ppl who didnt hv the damn audacity to enter our AT when ansh flourished...its abt broken frnships and trusts,ITS JUST NOT ABOUT A REPLACEMENT!!And together this anger is expressed on channel(for not giving us a chance to prepare ourselves for the sudden change) and on Toral(for spoiling Anandi whom we loved dearly)

Muku: I am pretty shocked this coming from you... I have heard over and over other people say this but I didn't realize until now that you thought the same way too..
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Serviana

There was one thing i always wanted to post on this forum. Psychology is my hobby so I was trying to analyse all those people who were defending indefensible and got to the next conclusion:

Toral is bad everybody knows it,even the channel PH and the director knows it.Thats why they have reduced her screen space. The story has shifted to jagya and will continue to be so...AnSh footage will reduce and they may dissapear like sugna shyam someday. Even the so called supporters of toral know she is bad and will never improve but wont accept it openly for various reasons.

Now ppl who r pretending to like her are of three types:

1 story lover, Human rights supporters or they r simply BV fans who dont give a damn about actors.

2 Sid fans who r watching the show because of Sid.They dont care abt chemistry or acting as long as they can drool over sid on screen.

3 HSF ( i like to call them horny Sid fans) they r Sid fans who hated prats coz she suits him best.They have awesome off screen chemistry too.This made them jealous of Pratz.Now tht she is gone and toral is upto no good they r happy coz they think they might become Mrs Shukla (facepalm,eyerolling,facepalm again)

It is not my intention to put now each member in one of the category and I dont want to bash anyone (there is nothing bad in being fan or HSF) .But the fact is that genuine Tandi fans do not exist .If that was the case then her AT would not havw died after 7 pages.


Oh and you should not bother to report me, coz right after posting this i am gonna report myself. Thanks😆😆




Yas her AT wasnt an AT but an attempt of some desperate pratyusha haters to show that ppl r loving her from day 1 *rolls eyes* the biggest example of non-existence of a single Toral fan is that no one from her previous shows followed her here and i can bet if she leaves BV no one here willl give two hoots abt her...then she will becum d new "backstabber"😆 Or if sid leaves 2morow ppl i can write on stamp paper 90% of AT ppl will give a damn abt Toral.The truth is AnSh cnt exist w/o sid...six months hv passed but AnSh r still solely surviving on Sid...if tomorrow a new actor comes 2 play Shiv I can bet we will only see 10% of current population of "self-proclaimed" ansh lovers!!

@bold 🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: dixie123

Muku: I am pretty shocked this coming from you... I have heard over and over other people say this but I didn't realize until now that you thought the same way too..



Nivi it was never u but such words did come from d side of our frnds only.what was meant by "dont flood AT with ur tears'...shobha was insulted n asked to leave the AT.why? bcoz she was sad.I still hv d link of that AT n dat comment.when dis statement came nothing of dis sort has even started.all were just sad.ofcourse i was too hurt.what was meant by sarees wud fit better? dat too on d ver day of replacement.i never said but cnt tell u how mch they hurted.u know shobhi was just expressing her emotions on at n she was rudely asked to post her comments on other thread not AT...i ask why???did any1 hv a copyright on dat AT???It belonged to ever1.I was a part of it almost since it came into existence...i wrote the first OS on AnSh...i know what that AT mattered 2 me...n it was v sad that ppl who came to dat AT months later were making fun of pratyusha fans just bcoz now they r on the brighter side.it was really sad.
Edited by Malika - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Boy I missed quite a bit in my lunch break!

@ Malika: Hey yaar! 🤗Really long time...you know, from all the discussions I have read on the forum...you are still the same sweet adoring Sidyusha fan I always knew...I've always admired your sweet nature...all that used to reflect from your comments, your creations and your FFs (Ive been a fan of all three).

Now, I wasn't here when all this replacement happened and don't know who said what to whom...Butyaar, tell me, dont you agree that commenting on someones physical attributes is in bad taste? I am asking you this question because from whatever little I have seen on the forum...I have seen you have never resorted to commenting on Torals physical appearance- despite of being such a die hard Pratyusha fan.

Its fine to criticize someones acting yaar- but why get so personal? I have read very abhorrent words being used to describe Torals appearance- which is really sad and reflects on us badly.

Thats is my only gripe. Also the fact that it seems that people hold Toral responsible for Pratyusha getting replaced. Its not likeToral is some famous actors daughter and she used her contacts to give Pratyusha the boot. Then why all this negativity and hatred towards her yaar? People say she is an opportunist- but then isnt everybody? If you were a struggling actor in Mumbai and you were offered a role in one of the best shows on Indian televisions in recent years and you were told that previous actor was leaving for whatever reasons- will you seriously reject the offer? Everyone is an opportunist in todays world.

Also, about people problems with Pratyusha - which is wrong by the way- if people did criticize her physical appearance- that was totally uncalled for- the fact of the matter remains that 4 months after the replacement- there are still a plethora of comments on the forum which make fun of Toral appearance and none which make fun of Pratyusha (atleast I cant find any in the topics I visited)...so that is why I was saying...live and let live...



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Posted: 12 years ago
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Muku: I did not say you were talking about me and didn't even take it as directed towards me. I know you are frank and you will let me know if I say something that hurts you.. I wrote in general that you are in agreement with the accusations the AT has got.

There were lot of things said from Prats fans too on the AT, constantly for 3 ATs (i.e almost 4-5 days) have heard the same thing for people who were trying to move on. The worst of the lot was AnSh RIP on AnSh AT and people ready to make a Shiv AT because Anandi was dead. So, these are not supposed to hurt the people who are trying to move on. So, obviously you will hear others talk with sarcasm too. People are hurt from both sides but the way it gets portrayed as though only SY fans have suffered through this and the rest of the AT has been fine and dandy. That is absolutely not so right and you know that very well.

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