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Posted: 12 years ago

#51

i am feeling ganga may leave haveli before ratan set haveli on fire and i also feel when ganga will come to know haveli set on fire she will inform anandi to save haveli .lets c how sumi take this ganga decision leaving home she may say ghar mein musibat aayi aur ganga ghar chod kur chali gayi .

ganga ne na to sumi ka aur na jagya ka aur na haveli mein kisi ka khucch bhi bigada hai ulta jagya ki dil se hospital mein dekhbaal ki aur gehna ki jaan bhi bachai pur bhi pata nahi kyon sumi ganga ke peeche padi rahti hai .ganga to din bhar kaam kurti hai woh bhi dil se pur phir bhi sumi ko ganga mein abhi bhi burai nazar aati hai ??aur sanchi kabhi kabhi aakur sirf chai ki tray kya de dengi to sumi sanchi ki aisi tareef karengi ki i just surprised ki isme itni tareef ki kya baat hai

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Posted: 12 years ago

#52

and one thing why sumi always cry for insecurity when bhairon singh already complain to police about ratan singh .police is doing there duty to search ratan singh then still sumi cant live in peace and let ganga live in peace .????

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Picasso9

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Posted: 12 years ago

#53

What's wrong with Ganga yearning for love? Isn't she entitled to her share of love too? Why can't she have feeling for her savior? Love doesn't check timings before coming into ones life. It just happens. She is trying to deal with those feelings, in fact she still has not been able to discern what exactly she feels for Jagya. It is us who have gauged it to be love but Ganga has yet to realize it. Anyway even once she realizes it, she has yet to act upon it. She is nt dreaming of being his wife. She is not acting like that Psycho in EHMMBH who want to replace Jeevika in Virens life.

So just because of the possibility f something happening she is being reprimanded. She does want to secure her future for her son that's why she asked to speed up her enrollment in nursing school. She is not plotting to become haveli beedani nor has she forgotten the perils she just escaped.

She has had far worse bal vivah experiences accompanied by rape. Is she not entitled to cry. We watched Anandi cry for months after being betrayed. Ganga has been strong for a long time. She was viewed as a servant in her house, excluded from the family. Here in BH she is appreciated by DS et al except Sumi. She is included as family. Can you imagine how overwhelming this might be for her? When one is ill treated by people you have no feelings for, it is easy to be tough, but when treated badly by someone you genuinely care for then tears come naturally and often.

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Originally posted by: parri814
What's wrong with Ganga yearning for love? Isn't she entitled to her share of love too? Why can't she have feeling for her savior?

Parri, not just Ganga, anyone can yearn for love and have feelings. Feelings just come and go...it is hard to monitor them. But what looked irritating was her reaction to her feeling. Crying for a little while is OK but for 2 long episodes is annoying. And crying in front of her baby, telling him about how far she has to go away from her lover to "forget" him is really strange and odd. It may be comforting to her ..but definitely not good for her baby. I dunno if this behaviour of hers is right or wrong. Maybe it is okay too. But i had a feeling of disgust when i saw her using her baby to dump her emotions without trying to understand how it would effect the little one. I hope CV's don't show these kind of things again.

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Asha

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Posted: 12 years ago

#55

Well said samvi. she keeps crying all the time before mannu. Cant she do that in private and put up a brave face for her child?
Love happens, without notice and without time, irrespective of your martial status. I guess how many appreciate the concept of kabhi alvidha naa kehna a movie where love rules above the martial status too. Is love acceptable in that form too???
No matter what feeling it is love, hate always act upon after thinking it through. coz if you blindly follow your heart it will lead to many problems. Society is above all. You can't live a happy life when the world calls you a witch. So humans have a set of boundaries and then should be careful whilst being adventrous with relationships and love.

For peeps who dont know the concept of that Karan Johar movies. Link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabhi_Alvida_Naa_Kehna

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Picasso9

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Posted: 12 years ago

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Originally posted by: samvi.

Parri, not just Ganga, anyone can yearn for love and have feelings. Feelings just come and go...it is hard to monitor them. But what looked irritating was her reaction to her feeling. Crying for a little while is OK but for 2 long episodes is annoying. And crying in front of her baby, telling him about how far she has to go away from her lover to "forget" him is really strange and odd. It may be comforting to her ..but definitely not good for her baby. I dunno if this behaviour of hers is right or wrong. Maybe it is okay too. But i had a feeling of disgust when i saw her using her baby to dump her emotions without trying to understand how it would effect the little one. I hope CV's don't show these kind of things again.

Asru, I understand your misgivings about the scene, but view what I said in the full context. Ganga does not realize what or why exactly she feels the way she does for J. We have taken the IMPLiCATION of the scene and deduced what we wanted as per our frames of references. But in no way is J Ganga's lover YET. About her crying to Manu, that's her 'safe' place. That's where she does not feel judged and whom she is closest to. In her confused state of emotions she does not realise yet the affect of her weeping on her child. Does she need to be berated for it? Yeah it may irk some of us but that does not mean she is sinning.

J and Ganga have NOT yet realized what they mean to each other, forget verbalising it. So how does societal rules even factor in? And even once they do realise it, what WILL society think? The same society thinks nothing of Jagyas ex wife's NAND now marrying Jagya, so why would they have a problem with Ganga when Ganga is SEPARATED from her ABUSIVE husband and divorce proceedings are in the works.

Comparing this to Karan Johar's movie is like comparing apples and oranges. In the movie an ILLICIT affair was in full swing. Bothe parties were very much married, NOT separated and lying to their spouses. Here Ganga has in no uncertain terms told Rat where exactly he stands and she is not putting on a farce of a marriage.

Everyone views stuff through their own filters, and my filter tells me that Ganga has not sinned, broken any laws or acted beyond boundaries or acted on her emotions YET.

As much as it would be nice for her divorce to be finalized and all her ducks in a row, everything is not always nicely packaged with a pretty bow on top. Life is messy.

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koolsadhu1000

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Posted: 12 years ago

#57

This is what i feel .

We r reading too much into Ganga crying in front of her kid . These therapy like deductions r in a city life , not in a rural setting . There is no therapy there , just brutal survival , abuse , gossip about ill omens , blind belief in superstitions and remnants of a joint family system .

Also a naive survival of our values bcoz of the rural innocence .

She cried in front of Mannu coz two women ...Sumitra and Sanchi were super bitchy to her .

She cried as she had nowhere else to go and vent out .

While her relation with Sumitra is different as she is part of the family that gave her support , knowledge that Sumitra is not at all basically bad or mean , that Sumitra is her doctorsa's mother , Ganga recognizes that Sanchi is a very bitchy person . She is a very intelligent person.

But the common point was both the women constantly picked on her , said unfair mean things to her and she could not give them back .

With Sumitra she had no wish to give back , she is too well bred for that . There was only pain there .

With Sanchi she couldn't coz she was gonna be the bahu of that. house . There was helpless shock there .

She cried in front of the only thing that was hers .

She cried coz she knew the child was too young to understand . She would not have cried if he was grown up like Nandu . Mannu won't even remember it .

The crying showed how alone she was in that setting . No fault of hers , no place to vent , facing constant womanly bitchiness , she cried at last in front of her innocent child .

Very human and in keeping with the story . I did not find it irritating at all .

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Picasso9

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Posted: 12 years ago

#58

Completely agree Kools. The environs Ganga has been born and raised in dictates her behavior and the lense through which she looks at situations. Mannu is her safe place. Psychology of her actions is the last thing on her mind. Fighting for survival is of utmost importance. She cannot afford the luxury of wondering how her every action will affect her child. Her priorities are obviously different to that of ours surrounded by family support in an urban setting.

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hooked

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Posted: 12 years ago

#59

@ Kool, Parri -

I agree with you with Mannu being her safe place and the only person who is unconditionally in her corner and he is her current weakness(to be kept safe from Ratan) and her biggest hope and her backbone.

She has been able to get out and do what she is doing only bcoz she wants to be able to give Mannu a better life. I get that.

And yes - we have watched Anandi cry and have a long face for years - it used to drive me up the wall.😡. and yet - we are not willing to give Ganga the same space. True.

But then - Anandi had the luxury of being the DIL and laado of the house and Ganga is only a charity case with Sumi starting to resent her big time. The way Sumi n Saanchi ganged up on her and followed her to her room too was pure evil. G had left the hall already - why follow her here and attempt to justify their nastiness ? Sumi was disgusting ! Saanchi was just herself -( I have no other expectations from her anyways).

But still - I hope Ganga will fill herself with a resolve to put on a brave fighter face and wait for the form n admission. You both have a good point - she is too unexposed and naive to know if and whether her crying can damage her child. Ganga is just being her innocent self. I get it 👍🏼

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But still I hope CV's can spare Mannu the tears n waterworks and not use him to pull at our heartstrings. For M's sake the CV's need to plan a scene better - coz we n the CV's shud know better.

Edited by hooked - 12 years ago

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SPuja

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Posted: 12 years ago

#60

Originally posted by: samvi.

Parri, not just Ganga, anyone can yearn for love and have feelings. Feelings just come and go...it is hard to monitor them. But what looked irritating was her reaction to her feeling. Crying for a little while is OK but for 2 long episodes is annoying. And crying in front of her baby, telling him about how far she has to go away from her lover to "forget" him is really strange and odd. It may be comforting to her ..but definitely not good for her baby. I dunno if this behaviour of hers is right or wrong. Maybe it is okay too. But i had a feeling of disgust when i saw her using her baby to dump her emotions without trying to understand how it would effect the little one. I hope CV's don't show these kind of things again.

They have made such scenes repetitive, thats why it looks annoying. Crying for once in front of her baby would have looked just natural, because he is the only one she has in this world. But crying again and again is not good. It is not true that she has not realised her feelings when she expressly said how can she see J with some other woman - this implies that she want to be with J and cannot see any other woman with him, even yesterday's episode when DS arranged for S going to J's hospital, Ganga gave such sad expression (as per written update).

If she had fought with herself that she has to concentrate on her career and she should not think to be with J now that J is getting married etc. then it would have better.But creative want to gain sympathy so they show Ganga sad and crying again and again.

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