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Posted: 12 years ago
#81

Originally posted by: shankythebest

Ganga falling for jagya is far more realistic than jagya falling for ganga.Jagya is not going to fall in love so soon.He is now busy in becoming a good person and to rectify his mistakes.


@bold - Ya true. It would be even more realistic to leave J as a single for some more time. Just to give the viewers some breathing space from his continuous relationships😳. I don't blame J for sanchi and Ganga falling for him. But i wished the CV's started this new thread after a leap of 2-3 yrs atleast. In the meanwhile Ganga could be settled down as a nurse.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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@samvi,I will also not mind if jagya stays single for some more days.But it also true being an ardent JaGan fan I will not mind some sweet moments betwen them.Anyways,I think sanchi drama is going to take another one or two even three months because I think it will take the engagement route so that means jagya will get more time.He will feel frustrated but will be unable to do anything.Viewers are watching that its sanchi and ganga who are falling in love not jagya so they will get time to accept Jagya.And its evident that JaGan couple are grabbing eye-balls so they will obviously crave for Jagya Ganga union.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#83

Originally posted by: samvi.

I totally missed this thread and am glad i found it now.


Ganga does not need any defence here in the first place. Not because she is right or wrong but because no one in this forum is accusing her, blaming her or asking her to get out of haveli. We just pointed out that even after listening to sumi's worries she is not shown to be given any thought to it let alone planning to leave the place. In turn Sumi who also has valid points is being the one accused completely.I had high expectations on Ganga at first. She was fierce , smart, humble though helpless. now it's like she is only humble , understanding,a cry baby and is still helpless with all the fierceness gone to ashes. This is just a disapproval message given by her supporters and not plain criticism. So this defence thread is totally uncalled for.

This Ganga story is not similar to Shyam-Sugna's story in any case let alone being same and comparing the past sumi to present sumi. That was a love story..and love stories don't have any rules in them!

Ganga is a stranger here. And Sumi pitied her and let her stay in her house on hearing her story. It is not like she had been rude to her from the beginning. And in Sumi's eyes not just Ganga , no girl can ever be equal to her angel Anandi for whom she even left her Son. Here as Suchi said, as every one kept comparing G to A, it put Sumi off which is natural ...it just put her off...she never made a fuss about it at first. Only after she felt that Ganga was/ is and will continue to be a threat(RAT challenged that he will come back to take revenge) to her son, Sumi started getting flared up! That is not insecurity...that is the fear of losing her Son. Why the hell would Sumi feel insecure about a stranger who is almost like their maid! No mother would entertain this idea when her son's life is at stake with no fault of his. Mothers can be excused for being that much selfish(or having that much concern) for their children. If she has some soft corner for the guest/stranger/victim who seeked her refuge then the mother would think of arranging some safe place for the stranger rather than letting her stay at her home and take the risk. Only Haveli won't be a safe place for G. It's not like this is some Bruce Wayne's pent house where no one can reach her there😆.

Coming to this topic about Sumi getting irritated at Ganga for mannu-oil thing. I wonder who kept that oil bowl near a toddler in the first place! And how could his mother be so irresponsible when an old woman and a pregnant woman are present in that house. What's the point in getting angry at mannu whether it is sumi or ganga? The fault lies on that person who kept that bowl beside mannu. Seriously Gehna has gone through a lot to get pregnant...and imagine what would have happened if she slipped and fell down! My maid's baby threw my home theatre remote in a bucket of water and it didn't work after that😭! I had to only blame myself for keeping it in her reach...and then my maid for bringing her baby here in the first place! I don't see any point in chiding the toddlers who can't even understand it. Anyways did Sumi scream at Mannu? or at Ganga? Cause it would be stupid if she screamed at mannu!


Samvi, a very nice post.
@red - this is exactly what I wrote in another post. Stupid was ganga to scream at her son. Sumitra did not scream at the child but ganga did. Moreover, she did it only to please sumitra. After sumitra left the room, she hugged the child and said sorry to the child.

This showed her real cheap mentality, a typical servant mentality. I was among those who always praised Ganga and appreciated her courage to run away from the slavery in Ratan's house. But now she has totally let me down. I have lost respect for her because she proved through her actions that she cannot be more than a slave ever who has to scream at her innocent child to please her master. If the child was little bigger, she might have even thrashed him.

I once called anandi a doormat, but at least she was a doormat in her own house. This lady is a doormat in someone else's house, and the disgusting part is that she is happy with that.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Ganga is not having a slave mentality Mannu did a mistake which could cost Gehna a lot thats why she was angry at Mannu not that she was pleasing her master Mom's even beat their children when they do a mistake to stop them from doing it again Ganga was not pleasing Sumitra there Ganga hugged her child because she felt bad screaming at him when Gehna stopped her not to do so it was only mistake done by a child

Interpret it as you want but Ganga is not someone who will be angry at anyone without any reason or to please someone Ganga just cannot think about running away from this house insulting people That will be huge insult to DS and Jagaya who are not at fault here They brought in her home and kept her with love and care there How can she think about running away like this For now neither she is self sufficient neither she has anywhere to go so what she can do Obviously her brain won't think in this direction Running away from Rat's house she knew she can get help from Jagaya and she always wanted to run away from that cruel house but here where she will go and moreover even her heart to desires to have a loving family which she never got before She has made one special bond with Singhs If one Sumi is not accepting the others love her to the core so after all she is human being as well her heart is not willing to leave to the love and care of rest people who are so nice to her treat her like a family member so how she can think of leaving so early ?


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: hina13

Ganga is not having a slave mentality Mannu did a mistake which could cost Gehna a lot thats why she was angry at Mannu not that she was pleasing her master Mom's even beat their children when they do a mistake to stop them from doing it again Ganga was not pleasing Sumitra there Ganga hugged her child because she felt bad screaming at him when Gehna stopped her not to do so it was only mistake done by a child


Interpret it as you want but Ganga is not someone who will be angry at anyone without any reason or to please someone Ganga just cannot think about running away from this house insulting people That will be huge insult to DS and Jagaya who are not at fault here They brought in her home and kept her with love and care there How can she think about running away like this For now neither she is self sufficient neither she has anywhere to go so what she can do Obviously her brain won't think in this direction Running away from Rat's house she knew she can get help from Jagaya and she always wanted to run away from that cruel house but here where she will go and moreover even her heart to desires to have a loving family which she never got before She has made one special bond with Singhs If one Sumi is not accepting the others love her to the core so after all she is human being as well her heart is not willing to leave to the love and care of rest people who are so nice to her treat her like a family member so how she can think of leaving so early ?


@hina - mannu did a mistake?😲 Is he even of the age to understand what is right or wrong or that he should not spill oil on the floor?

Ok, taken for granted that he did a mistake for which his mother scolded him. Then why did she hug him and say she will never again do it? It means she realised that not the child, but she made a mistake scolding him.

Who said she has to run away form Singhs house? What we are discussing here is that she has to start thinking in terms of moving out of that house. No body is considering her as a prospective bride for jagya. She is like Makhan in that house. They also love Makhan a lot.

Oh yeah, dadisa has said that she will get her married once jagya is married. So maybe ganga's plan is to hang around till then. In that it is okay to take the abuses and scold the child. Just a matter of few days or months, isn't it?


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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shinya


@hina - mannu did a mistake?😲 Is he even of the age to understand what is right or wrong or that he should not spill oil on the floor?

Ok, taken for granted that he did a mistake for which his mother scolded him. Then why did she hug him and say she will never again do it? It means she realised that not the child, but she made a mistake scolding him.

Who said she has to run away form Singhs house? What we are discussing here is that she has to start thinking in terms of moving out of that house. No body is considering her as a prospective bride for jagya. She is like Makhan in that house. They also love Makhan a lot.

Oh yeah, dadisa has said that she will get her married once jagya is married. So maybe ganga's plan is to hang around till then. In that it is okay to take the abuses and scold the child. Just a matter of few days or months, isn't it?


You are not getting my point Mannu will slowly get it He doesn't know he did a mistake but even at this age where he is if his mom will strictly stop from him from something the child will get the hint he won't do that again He knows she is his maa he don't call everyone maa the child is at this age that he can understand she is maa so he can understand even this

and she felt bad scolding him because she never did before neither Mannu has gone this far

and i never said here anyone is saying she should run away but i clearly said she is too human being you can call her selfish in your language but her heart doesn't desire to leave Singhs as she has never got love of family before that she is getting from DS and others so she cannot think in this direction so soon and she has also promised with DS she will not think in this direction Didn't she try to leave before DS took promise from her then she was happy with her that she will never think in this direction

Bold this so wrong blame Shinya Why are you accusing her like this ? and where anyone is abusing her to the extremes Sumitra's anger you call it abuse Sumitra is verbally abusing her and beating her to death ? NO Ganga is understanding to Sumi because she understands Sumi is right on her part as a mother Ganga will also behave like Sumi if her own child gets in trouble because of someone She is not making an issue of it because she is understanding She asked Jagaya not to risk your life for me he explained to her

Ganga doesn't know Sumitra wants her to get out of house Sumi for now is only saying my son should not be in trouble because of you and she immediately understood and requested Jagaya to kindly not risk your life for me Sumi where has shown she wants Ganga to get out house ?

Edited by hina13 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I can agree with the view that it is realistic to show Ganga falling for Jagya first. But I would have preferred even she takes sometime in realizing those feelings. The gratitude, affection and the emotional bond she feels with Jagya is fine but I would rather the realization came maybe during or after the Ratan Singh drama.
What I absolutely hate is the way CVs are shoving this whole "Triangle" drama down our throats. just because Saanchi is in love with Jagya they speeded up Ganga's realization that too in a hap-hazard way. Isn't there any other way other than the tried and tested formula of a Triangle? They have already shown it not once but twice before. But both those instances made sense but now it seems as if its done only for the sake of it.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#88
I cant take it the way ganga is all over jagya. Hate that after what all she has being through. I liked her as she alone gave the sane advice that he did wrong with gawari too. But she seems to forget that conveniently. Their physical proximity irks me. It looks so unreal. She has been a lot and she didn't even divorce her husband and is already in love with jagya and is not shy to show it???

CV's did your sense got knocked or what. Shriti and Shashank have awesome chemistry and you need not ruin it by rushing it. Anandi took her own swwet time to confess why not bal var have his own sweet time along with this another balika vadhu???
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: SPuja

We cannot equate Shyam-Sugna with Ganga-Jagya. Shyam was in love with Sugna, they got married (after which he got beaten up by men (perhaps servants) accompaning Pratap's mother). Sugna was not living with Shyam's family before marriage. Here so far Jagya has not shown any feeling like love towards Ganga. Hejust saved her out of humanity and is her well-wisher. What Jagya is doing for Ganga, even a brother will do for his sister.

Sumitra's concern about her son's safety is alright, what is wrong is this sudden change. She (and the whole family) already knew what sort of person Rat is. Instead of making faces now, she/other family membersshould have discussed this issue when they gave shelter to Ganga. If Ganga is living with them, the best course would have been adopting her as daughter. That way,her living with themwould have legal sanction as well as society sanction. I hate when they show people teasing women (like when Ganga went on bike with Jagya) why show suchmentality again and again?


Ganga was anywaygoing to leave Rat and would have lived alone, if not given shelter in haveli. However, they changed her charecter, otherwise, she would have lefthaveli even though it would be difficult for her to study living alone, or atleast she would have requested for some job, so that she is self-sufficient and not living as dependentonSinghs.



What I don't understand is when Sanchi told that Jagya wud have beaten up by her college mates who misbehaved with her, nothing bothered Sumithra. And everyone were appreciating Jagya has done a right job. But wen Ganga told that it must be Ratan y is she so angry? Y she regretting for helping Ganga? If it happens by helping Sanchi it's not a problem for Sumitra but if it is due to Ganga then ... I really don't understand this mother's love 😕
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Leaving Singh's house does not mean running away. Ganga needs to be diplomatic on how she handles it. She can tell Singhs that they have done enough for her, they have supported her in the time of need and now it's her turn to stand on her feet and live the life that she always dreamt for Mannu. Singh's will surely feel proud and also respect her more for coming out bold at all times.

And it's not like she has to disconnect from them. She can always meet them time and again.

The question here is why does Ganga need to leave. Simply because one Singh member does not like her stay there. And so Ganga must understand that she is causing inconvenience to them and hence must leave rather than getting insulted by Sumitra.

As for her love for J or vice versa, it is a different topic altogether. She does not have to stay in haveli for him to realise his love for her.

And for her security, she could even get attacked n haveli.

So really it's all about the fiercy, strong character's self-respect and not about the sacrifices of a woman, who lost herself because she got indebted to a family that sheltered her.
Edited by Missesha - 12 years ago

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