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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: smriti81

I was initially very disappointed with the fact that she still views it this way, but this is the typical reaction of a woman in an abusive relationship. Whether Shiv is a cameo or not will depend on how he is shown dealing with this raw, hurt, battered woman...not the perfect wife material. And her outburst on him was extremely necessary to get to that point where he starts understanding the real Anandi.


well said.

Exactly!
she is all that.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Don't get me wrong. I am not propagating divorce. Nor am I saying that compromise is a bad thing, I am not even saying women who compromise are spineless - All I am saying to what extent one should compromise? Yes, it is true that no two situations are alike. But remember no one is born "professional". Not everyone is born with silver spoons, but I believe everyone has ability to make something out of their lives. At least these shows are encouraging women to understand their self-worth. It is wrong to assume that by staying in a relationship by extreme compromising (for many reasons) is healthy for any individual (man or woman or kids). Esp. in cases like Anandi's where her husband left her for another woman, that too without sorting out with her in a dignified manner. Are we to expect Anandi to still compromise?
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Srijay - Yes. Shiv is not the solution. The key to Anandi's healing is ultimately within herself and time. But, if Shiv wants to be part of that process and part of her life as a husband then he needs to understand her pain and soothe her fears. Genuine love is not magic, but it along with respect, care, trust, and loyalty may help Anandi heal faster and see herself in a more positive light.


I used to wonder why women put up with such crap when I first started working with abused women... the reasons vary - low self esteem, financial dependence, children, societal stigma, societal expectations/norms, etc. What I learnt by the end is that whatever the reason maybe, walking away is not simple or easy for many women whatever their social status, ethnicity, or education level. Domestic abuse is insidious and the strongest of women can fall prey to it. And the way out is always difficult.

i have to mention this great episode from NCIS season 5.
a US marine ( a white woman ) married to naother US marine but much more talented than him , put up with domestic violence for 7 years! she would go to emergncy rooms and get treatments of brokn jaw , and violent franctures but never report it! al the while she was teaching fellow marines the techniques of combat!
she wanted her marriage to be together for her 5 year old kid. eventually she did strike back and this time to kill becuase he was threatening to take away her child.
women do put up with abuse and lets not be judgemntal about them. and personally i feel it is not cowardice but a concern for kids which strives them towards it. if anything i appreciate such women.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Srijay - Yes. Shiv is not the solution. The key to Anandi's healing is ultimately within herself and time. But, if Shiv wants to be part of that process and part of her life as a husband then he needs to understand her pain and soothe her fears. Genuine love is not magic, but it along with respect, care, trust, and loyalty may help Anandi heal faster and see herself in a more positive light.


I used to wonder why women put up with such crap when I first started working with abused women... the reasons vary - low self esteem, financial dependence, children, societal stigma, societal expectations/norms, etc. What I learnt by the end is that whatever the reason maybe, walking away is not simple or easy for many women whatever their social status, ethnicity, or education level. Domestic abuse is insidious and the strongest of women can fall prey to it. And the way out is always difficult.


so trueee ...
kudosss to you 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
and mens knows this weekness of woman...thats why they get the guts to inflct this kind of pain on us ...because they know she will tno go anywhere...she will need home security food and kids and all this...so they think of us powerless and missuse our silence...so true... we 1st has to amke us ourself understand...and then world is ours
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: srijay

Don't get me wrong. I am not propagating divorce. Nor am I saying that compromise is a bad thing, I am not even saying women who compromise are spineless - All I am saying to what extent one should compromise? Yes, it is true that no two situations are alike. But remember no one is born "professional". Not everyone is born with silver spoons, but I believe everyone has ability to make something out of their lives. At least these shows are encouraging women to understand their self-worth. It is wrong to assume that by staying in a relationship by extreme compromising (for many reasons) is healthy for any individual (man or woman or kids). Esp. in cases like Anandi's where her husband left her for another woman, that too without sorting out with her in a dignified manner. Are we to expect Anandi to still compromise?

no most definitely not. yes there is always a limit to compromise ... in anandi's case, she has compromised enough. and she certainly has the support systems to move on and she should.
oh by the way u should listen to what feminists have to say about compromising women , thats what had me up in arms that no two women can be assessed with the same yardstick. compromise is not a bad word as without a certaind egree of compromise EVERY relatonship would fall apart.
may i add the jagiya gauri relationship is a classic example of too little compromise. and that i the reason again for its slow demise.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ

Shiv appears to have every quality a woman would want in a husband - tall, goodlooking, buff! Okay looks may fade with time and halwa, but he's intelligent, ethical, hardworking, established in his career, he helps people, and he comes from a good family. Anandi MUST be PAGAL to REJECT HIM!



I dont think even one person on the forum has said that anandi must be pagal to reject him - given his good looks, his intelligence and the other blah blah blah...
what I (and others) personally question is whether she is pagal to go and scream at him when he did nothing at all to hurt her ... if she doesnt want to marry him, fine. Nobody has said she should... we are not compelling her to marry shiv ... but to yell at him for something dadisa said is not in good taste, it is not dignified and it is not right. In addition, giving him a long lecture on ashi et. al is also none of her business ... ashi had already made it clear that her interest in shiv is one-sided ... and therefore, anandi cannot yell at shiv for not having feelings for ashi at all... that is none of her business.
and as for all that immense pain, and raw hurt etc etc. that too is all blah blah blah because she is still talking yesterday about how much she loves jagya.
I agree with ranidutta -- anandi is only comfortable being abused and battered and she is a 100% fit for jagya -- she loves to wallow in his abusive behaviour, so much so that when a normal man comes into her life and treats her with respect on all occassions and never so much has crossed even a single boundary with her, then she simply cannot take it...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

I dont think even one person on the forum has said that anandi must be pagal to reject him - given his good looks, his intelligence and the other blah blah blah...
what I (and others) personally question is whether she is pagal to go and scream at him when he did nothing at all to hurt her ... if she doesnt want to marry him, fine. Nobody has said she should... we are not compelling her to marry shiv ... but to yell at him for something dadisa said is not in good taste, it is not dignified and it is not right. In addition, giving him a long lecture on ashi et. al is also none of her business ... ashi had already made it clear that her interest in shiv is one-sided ... and therefore, anandi cannot yell at shiv for not having feelings for ashi at all... that is none of her business.
and as for all that immense pain, and raw hurt etc etc. that too is all blah blah blah because she is still talking yesterday about how much she loves jagya.
I agree with ranidutta -- anandi is only comfortable being abused and battered and she is a 100% fit for jagya -- she loves to wallow in his abusive behaviour, so much so that when a normal man comes into her life and treats her with respect on all occassions and never so much has crossed even a single boundary with her, then she simply cannot take it...

i feel and i may be wrong , that she is VENTING. that is also a sign of closeness to me. have we never yelled at our moms or our hubs and later cried bitterly all becuase we knew they r our closest and witht hem we can be ourselves and cry our hearts out?
i think she regards him so close that she can even scream on him. its just my POV 😳
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: anjana.d

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i feel and i may be wrong , that she is VENTING. that is also a sign of closeness to me. have we never yelled at our moms or our hubs and later cried bitterly all becuase we knew they r our closest and witht hem we can be ourselves and cry our hearts out?
i think she regards him so close that she can even scream on him. its just my POV 😳

Yes, I vent with my mom and my husband, and others vent with their moms and husbands, ... but SHIV IS NOT ANANDI'S MOM AND HE IS NOT HER HUSBAND. He is her boss... regardless of how close she feels to him, there must still be some reverential fear and some boundaries...given that she has known him only for six months...AND THAT HE HAS NOT DONE ANYTHING WRONG.
What kind of society would it be if we all kept on venting to all and sundry with no distinctions whatsoever?
when jagat scruffed up the senior doctor, can we excuse his behaviour by saying that it was venting.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I dont think even one person on the forum has said that anandi must be pagal to reject him - given his good looks, his intelligence and the other blah blah blah...
what I (and others) personally question is whether she is pagal to go and scream at him when he did nothing at all to hurt her ... if she doesnt want to marry him, fine. Nobody has said she should... we are not compelling her to marry shiv ... but to yell at him for something dadisa said is not in good taste, it is not dignified and it is not right. In addition, giving him a long lecture on ashi et. al is also none of her business ... ashi had already made it clear that her interest in shiv is one-sided ... and therefore, anandi cannot yell at shiv for not having feelings for ashi at all... that is none of her business.
and as for all that immense pain, and raw hurt etc etc. that too is all blah blah blah because she is still talking yesterday about how much she loves jagya.
I agree with ranidutta -- anandi is only comfortable being abused and battered and she is a 100% fit for jagya -- she loves to wallow in his abusive behaviour, so much so that when a normal man comes into her life and treats her with respect on all occassions and never so much has crossed even a single boundary with her, then she simply cannot take it...


I agree with your words tinoo, She is happy caged in the memories of jaggu and the pain he has given her . Yesterdays phone conversation with ashi , pyar is puja and her tapasya was not sufficient to get jagya's love back đŸ€Ș . If she doesn't wan't to marry shiv - just say to shiv and Singhs I cannot forget my first love jagya , its true I am getting divorced from him but nobody can take jaggu's place. Don't wait for me, you marry some one else. all the best . Chapter closed. What's the point in yelling at shiv , speech, asking him to love ashi back ...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bluerobin

[/. If she doesn't wan't to marry shiv - just say to shiv and Singhs I cannot forget my first love jagya , its true I am getting divorced from him but nobody can take jaggu's place. Don't wait for me, you marry some one else. all the best . Chapter closed.

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 -- yes, this is exactly what is the point -- she cannot forget jagya, she still loves him even though she is getting divorced from him.
why to get into issues of "what if my second marriage turns out exactly like my first?"... because that is really not anandi's issue. she is not scared of rejection a second time around ... she is still in love with the husband of the first marriage.
why to get into issues of "doesnt shiv have any regard for ashi's feelings for him?" because that is also really not anandi's issue. It is not that she is secretly pining away for shiv and only keeping her distance because she doesnt want to get in between ashi and shiv.

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