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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: tinoo

But that is precisely my point. Shiv has never been shown to think that anandi would easily accept his rishta... infact, he was not thinking about anandi yet, he wanted to ask his own parents first. After that, he would deal with the issue of anandi as dadisa said that her talaq had to be finalized first, and that he should take the consent of his household people too.
He has not said yes to anandi, he has said yes to dadisa's proposal and the two are very different things...
We can only say that shiv was living in a dreamworld if they showed him thinking thoughts like "sure anandi is going to say yes to me .. what other options does she have? and who wouldnt want a london returned hunky collector like me?"
or if he himself had walked up to dadisa and said
"yo yo yo dokri? wassup? i want to be anandi's beendh and I know she is going to say yes"
His yes was only about his own view of the matter ... not dependent on anandi's view.
He said yes, because he is inclined towards anandi (only his part of the equation) ... nowhere is he saying that he assumes anandi is also inclined towards him.
Infact, he has said "anandi ka mere saath jud jaana, mere liye samman ki baat hai"... which means he puts anandi on a pedestal ... it is only when someone whom we think higher than us wants to be with us that we think it is samman ... when someone whom we think lower than us wants to associate with us, then we never think of it as samman.
It was most inappropriate of anandi to yell at him. Dirst of all, I dont think anandi should have talked to him at all -- she should have told dadisa to convey to him she was not interested.
But even if she talked to shiv, there was no need to insult him/speak crassly to him. All she had to do was to say "dadisa put the marriage proposal forward but I am not interested. Please dont pursue it"...
All her hurts and insecurities need not be put on display ... and it would have been bhairon's place to convey the insecurities to shiv ... or else anandi should only convey her insecurities if shiv directly comes to her and asks her "i really want to marry you. what are your reservations. can we talk about this?" ...
But just to go and yell at him?
And how is shiv responsible for healing her past wounds?
His responsibility is to be a good husband to her in the future, not to function as her therapist. 😆

If Shiv cannot heal her past wounds he need not marry Anandi . Anandi carries the emotional baggage of rejection , pain and betrayal and this is the complete Anandi.
If he can love the complete Anandi and want to make her his wife still then only he shud marry her , otherwise go away collector saab.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: Suchi-Virmanian

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Shiv was foolish to accept the proposal right then and there. He should have first told DS to wait and take time to think this over. He acted out of his own selfish desires of marrying Anandi and is now paying for his hastiness.

If Anandi is at fault , Shiv is too very much at fault for taking Anandi for granted

Okay I see where the discrepancy in our thinking is.
It is the interpretation of "shiv said yes to dadisa"...
So the way I would frame it is that he said yes to dadisa ... but yes to what??
In my opinion, he said yes to dadisa's proposal IN PRINCIPLE. why should he tell dadisa to take time to think this over? it is obvious that she has already thought it over.
i feel he is talking about his own willingness to consider it ... and anandi's consent is a separate issue ... but it does not mean that he has taken anandi's yes for granted ... nor has he been selfish... why should he say "i will say yes only if anandi says yes"?? In no way does this mean that he wont talk to anandi ever or he sees that talking to her is not necessary for the marriage to eventually occur, that ofcourse she will say yes only...
you feel that he has already said yes to a marriage as if anandi's yes to him is guaranteed, and i dont think that is the case... he asked dadisa if this had anandi's consent, and dadisa said that first you should talk to your parents, and he agreed ... which means that he wants to wait to discuss the matter with anandi... there are four steps (singhs interest, his own interest, his parents interest, and anandi's interest) ... he has not taken any of the steps for granted, he is just going through each step, and the IN PRINCIPLE YES will be turned into a final yes only if anandi herself agrees at the end..
also, his talks to ashi were just to say that the first step of his dream had crystallized... he had got an opportunity to entertain the thought... not to announce the finality of the marriage to her.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43
agree with TM. I dont find anything wrong in anandi's behaviour.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#44
Rightly said...only a person who has experienced the pain will realize the depth of it...there was nothing wrong in what anandi did (though i feel she could have told it to him in a milder way)...It is true that Shiv has respect for anandi n respects her as well...but he needs to express his feelings for her n give her assurance that he will always be there for her...
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Posted: 13 years ago
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What we need to ask i think is - what could he have done differently ?


... but thats the point - nothing ... dadisa asked him, what could he say ? ... he loves the girl, the family asks - so obviously he will say yes ... Should he have said no ? ...


Dealing with anandi and her issues would have come later ... right now it was between dadisa and shiv ... i am pretty sure had anandi not flattened him like a road roller, he would have approached her with sensitivity ...


anandi should take issue with dadisa that why was she not consulted before a boy was approached ... bechaare ladke ki kya galti ?

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Posted: 13 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: poiu123

If Shiv cannot heal her past wounds he need not marry Anandi . Anandi carries the emotional baggage of rejection , pain and betrayal and this is the complete Anandi.

If he can love the complete Anandi and want to make her his wife still then only he shud marry her , otherwise go away collector saab.




The only person that can heal anandi's wounds in Anandi herself ... People can help her along the way, shiv can walk beside her, but this journey is completely Anandi's alone ...


i remember reading a romance novel and the heroine was deeply betrayed by a man... the hero was pitch perfect but she refused to open her heart ... and he said - pls tell me what should i do, because right now i am paying for another man's sins ... he waited years for her but she kept her heart brittle ...


If Anandi wants to stay in her past, no one, and i mean NO ONE can drag her out of the shadows ... "Tinoo" never said that shiv doesn't understand her pain or that he won't help her get over it ... but the ultimate choice is still anandi's
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: bips

What we need to ask i think is - what could he have done differently ?


... but thats the point - nothing ... dadisa asked him, what could he say ? ... he loves the girl, the family asks - so obviously he will say yes ... Should he have said no ? ...

🤣🤣🤣 That would have led anandi to go verbally abuse him on another count if he had said no to anandi.
"What? You said no to dadisa, you dont think I'm good enough for your royal highness? You london returned scumbag collector -- you only want unmarried virgin girls, you dont think a divorcee like me is good enough for you? You bas***d. How dare you reject my dadisa's proposal. Just because my husband has left me, you think you have the right to leave me too"
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Ty Anjana, u r so very rite ...this rejection will actually help AnSh bond better :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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I think we r very critical to both the character. As per me neither is at fualt and its just a misunderstanding. Anandi as betrayed by a devil, become very sensitive and being hurt by small things. Shiv intention was never wrong but Anandi took it otherway. Both r rit on their places, but just sometime its happens tht even no one to blame, but problem and misunderstanding arise. And most importantly, in serial nothing happen so easily and smoothly. So just chill and enjoy the drama, without being much critical.😆 I criticize only whn i find intention wrong, as it was on Jago case, otherwise i ignore such minor things😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: bips

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If Anandi wants to stay in her past, no one, and i mean NO ONE can drag her out of the shadows ... "Tinoo" never said that shiv doesn't understand her pain or that he won't help her get over it ... but the ultimate choice is still anandi's

Yes... I never said that he doesnt understand her pain... I am just saying that it hasnt come to that point yet where he had that discussion with her ... the party was only last night... dadisa asked, he said yes based on his love for her ... what she feels is irrelevant AT THIS POINT. Nobody said he would permanently ignore her feelings, or just ride roughshod about her feelings when it came to the time to discuss it with her.

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