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Nach_Baliye

@Nach_Baliye

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Posted: 13 years ago

#21

I completely agree with tinoo. Shiv did not rush this. In fact he was just getting to know Anandi and coming to terms with his feelings, when Dadisa threw this onto Shiv's lap without even discussing with Anandi. Poor Shiv, what was he to do? His feelings came to the forefront and he just went with the flow. Had it been left to him, he would have taken his time and then proposed to Anandi directly in a mature manner instead of going to Dadisa. But Dadisa was impatient and kept rushing it. Anandi's divorce is not yet final, and she has not had a chance to even feel her sorrow completely. She keeps hiding her feelings from her family so as not to hurt them, she has not come to terms with her feelings yet or even expressed her hurt. It is all coming out now in a big way, she is a walking volcano.

Poor Shiv. Not only is he misunderstood time and again by Anandi, but he is also yelled at and not given a chance to explain. He is also in love with her and her yelling at him and misunderstanding him must be so painful. But I am glad he is seeing this side of her, it is important for him to understand her pain. She has to hold back in front of her family but she is completely herself with him with all her rawness. The mature person that he is, hopefully he will see beyond her words and really understand and support her. It will be an uphill task for him, but so is it for her and he can help her through this phase.

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itsRitzi

@itsRitzi

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Posted: 13 years ago

#22

well i think sm way too serious discussion gng here and i liked reading a few u guys write so well 👏

neways am not a mature person to comment but i must say watever anandi did was kk since she was angry and aghast that collecor saab maan bhi gaaye and she felt bad for ashi !!

neways wat remains to be seen is what happens next ??when anandi cms to knw shiv and jag had a fi8 !! and shiv cms to knw jag is anadi ka ex !! lots of drama to look forward to !!

and ya i felt bad for Shiv coz he was clueless and didnt knw wats beckoning next!!😲

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AnjanaYYZ

@AnjanaYYZ

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+ 6

Posted: 13 years ago

#23

Dixie - I don't know about Suchi, but Shiv's actually my favorite character🤣🤣🤣 Which is why I am tougher on him then even Anandi .😛 I have high expectations and he better deliver.😡

I am totally on his side and am not blaming him for anything. I am saying he needed a reality check, which he got bigtime today. He got to see some of Anandi's jagged edges. He now needs to reflect on that... and if he still wants Anandi, which he better😡 then go win his girl's trust and restore her faith in love.

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tinoo

@tinoo

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Posted: 13 years ago

#24

Originally posted by: AnjanaYYZ
Tinoo - a relationship is always two-sided. He's not marrying daadisa, he wants to marry Anandi. As such, the onus remains with him to think and reflect upon his prospective's bride's yes/no. The responsibility lies with him to understand her. They are not kids playing "dollhouse"... but, complex adults particularly Anandi. The fact is that here he didn't reflect on Anandi's part of the equation at all. He just left it to daadiji. He's telling his bestfriend like its a done deal but he has yet to get a yes from the bride herself. His head is in the clouds. Its about his dreams - his list of the qualities he wants in his future wife. Where is Anandi, the woman he wants to marry in all this? What about her dreams, wishes, and expectations? He needs to reflect on whether he wants Anandi - the good, the bad, and the ugly... which includes the over-emotional woman with self confidence issues. He's not her therapist, but if he wants to her husband then he has to be sensitive to her fears and concerns. Her behaviour with him is a by-product of those things. If all he is looking for his simplicity and to just be a "companion" then he should consider marrying Ashi or an indian girl with no emotional baggage not a divorcee to be.

But he only told ashi that dadiji had put the proposal to him, he was happy that he had an entry into the realm of entertaining marriage to anandi as even a possibility. He never told ashi that she was definitely going to say yes or anything of the sort.

He didnt reflect on anandi's part of the equation because there wasnt time ... his saying yes to anandi was based on his own feelings for her ... why should he base his yes or no after taking into account anandi's feelings about her dreams, wishes and expectations?

He says "from my side it is yes IN PRINCIPLE" ... I am sure that with some time as it moved forward he would have asked anandi about her point of view too and had conversations with her ... He never assumed that it was a done deal.

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dixie123

@dixie123

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Posted: 13 years ago

#25

Originally posted by: tinoo

But he only told ashi that dadiji had put the proposal to him, he was happy that he had an entry into the realm of entertaining marriage to anandi as even a possibility. He never told ashi that she was definitely going to say yes or anything of the sort.

He didnt reflect on anandi's part of the equation because there wasnt time ... his saying yes to anandi was based on his own feelings for her ... why should he base his yes or no after taking into account anandi's feelings about her dreams, wishes and expectations?

He says "from my side it is yes IN PRINCIPLE" ... I am sure that with some time as it moved forward he would have asked anandi about her point of view too and had conversations with her ... He never assumed that it was a done deal.

Exactly ! That is what I have been trying to say.. He didn't have the time.

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Suchi-

@Suchi-

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Posted: 13 years ago

#26

So , if SHIV didn't have the time, then Anandi TOO didn't have the time to reflect on her words and come and say maturely to shiv that lets discuss this over tea.

She got Ashi's call when she got the divorce papers !

I am not ok with Anandi's fault is being pinpointed that she should have done this, or reacted in another manner, and at the same time Shiv is given the excuse that he didn't have time. The same rule applies for her as well.

Shiv was telling Ashi to not tell Anandi which shows that he was going to HIDE the matter from Anandi until things settle down. Fine! So he knew that Anandi would not take it well if she found out earlier and he got a glimpse of that

If Shiv is excepted to be given time to handle Anandi and her issues then Anandi should also be given time to think this whole betrayal behind her back.

She was not given any time, so her reaction is appropriate to that particular moment

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AnjanaYYZ

@AnjanaYYZ

Stunner

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Posted: 13 years ago

#27

Tinoo - he needs to reflect on Anandi's part of the equation because that's whom he is wanting to marry. Marriage is about "we" - we is just what shiv wants, but what Anandi wants as well.

I agree he didn't have time...daadiji jumped the gun. But, so did Shiv in accepting. He doesn't understand what he's signing up for! He has been thus far oblivious/obtuse about Ashi's feelings and he hasn't taken the time to understand or truly reflect on Anandi's. This is a wake up call for him to do so. Bitter insight into Anandi and women period. If he's going to be a "husband" he needs to get cracking on understanding the women in his life on an emotional level...not a logic level!

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dixie123

@dixie123

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Posted: 13 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: Suchi-Virmanian
So , if SHIV didn't have the time, then Anandi TOO didn't have the time to reflect on her words and come and say maturely to shiv that lets discuss this over tea.

She got Ashi's call when she got the divorce papers !

I am not ok with Anandi's fault is being pinpointed that she should have done this, or reacted in another manner, and at the same time Shiv is given the excuse that he didn't have time. The same rule applies for her as well.

Shiv was telling Ashi to not tell Anandi which shows that he was going to HIDE the matter from Anandi until things settle down. Fine! So he knew that Anandi would not take it well if she found out earlier and he got a glimpse of that

If Shiv is excepted to be given time to handle Anandi and her issues then Anandi should also be given time to think this whole betrayal behind her back.

She was not given any time, so her reaction is appropriate to that particular moment

Come on Suchi ! There was no need for her to even talk to him. Send your rejection through a messenger. Whatever betrayal she felt she did take it out on her family. Did he propose or initiate anything from his side ? For him there was no time bcos DS initiated and expected an answer at that time.

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bluerobin

@bluerobin

Sparkler

Posted: 13 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: shridevigaddam

But is 100% wrong in the manner she gives the rebuttal to Shiv. She is sending wrong vibes to the man. But then again, more of CV's problem than Anandi's problem. While they made it too staid of her character with Jagya to be shown suffering and now they are making her too brash with Shiv to be shown the re-emerging Anandi minus the Beendni.

The timing was so wrong that Anandi got to know all these plans. Its all Aashi's (CV's) fault in spilling the beans as logically Dadisa knew Anandi was not ready and Shiv knew he has to talk to his parents first before he did anything with Anandi or win her trust.

Shiv needed a dose of reality, but not this hard. But then this is drama. Anguish, pain all can only be shown in dramatic form for the audience to register it. 😆

Might I as well say...Karunya, Raudra and Adbhuta Ras going on in tandem for all the four characters Anandi, Dadisa, Shiv and Ashi. 😆

yaar I agree with each and every word you said.

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tinoo

@tinoo

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Posted: 13 years ago

#30

Not only did he not have the time... I think for the marriage to go all the way through, there are a series of steps

1. dadisa's and singhs approval

2. his yes or no

3. his parents and their views

and

4. anandi's views.

Different individuals may do these steps in different order, but shiv felt that it was important for him to have his parents approval BEFORE speaking to anandi ... someone else might have talked to anandi first and then seen whether she was interested before talking to his parents ...

but it is obvious that he gave his precedence to his parents ... if his parents said no, then there would be no point in speaking to anandi because he would not go against their wishes ... this does not mean that he would defy them outright to marry anandi but he would definitely invest time in bringing them around to his point of view and his choice.

Only after he has the mental green signal from his parents can he think about anandi's wishes.

if he does not have the green signal, then anandi's views on the matter have no significance/relevance.

If he shared something with ashi, then it is just that steps 1 and 2 had occurred ... he takes no guarantee for steps 3 and 4...nor has he assumed anything is a done deal...

Its like sometimes we get an interview call from a prestigious company and we share it with our friends... nowhere are we saying that we assume we will definitely get the job, but we are sharing our enthusiasm about atleast getting a foot in the door.

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