How Baawre lost me - Page 3

Originally posted by: shreya_rc

Liks,
u promised to write this post long days back. had u written this much earlier,if might had the effect intended.but yes better late than never. U r very upset still, right ? and thats marring the enthu of watching the show. the story has moved on re, so letz also do the same thing but ofcourse not without discussing the points you have raised.
Tanisha hasalready said most of the things i wanted to talk about. like yamini's inability to speak in front of her dad even when he is horribly wrong. nikumbh's tasks have make her a bit open to the outer world...she can now meet with eyes of an stranger and give him a piece of mind without stammering, it has made Nikumbh a hero in her eyes, a role-model to be inspired ad to be followed, it helped her to dismantle the cloak of uncomfortable shyness and make friendship with azam, shaheen and theatre gang...BUT it is not at all enough to wipe away the intrinsic fear of her father and speak up to him. and she has probably seen he father beating up, threatening, insulting,manipulating people to get his means...forget other people, she has seen her mother living in fear of getting beaten and thrown out of the house all her life.Has she ever ever tried to stop her father stating that what h is doing is very wrong ?? NO !! it has become a routine oh her to stand aside making a frightened face and watch the whole fiasco in a terrorized stupor. As I hav said earlier that it was Raghu's ploy to teach Nikumbh and Theatre gang the lesson of what can happen to then if they dare to come too close to yamini. unfortunately the target was the helpless waiter who has neither power and position to protest...and more unfortunate is the fact neither nikumbh or azam had the firsthand knowledge of what happened actually that night. U found the treatment of the whole fiasco very much feudalistic which is actually true.
Liks,time is moving fast even i India and things are changing, but not really according to our expectation...and we, the new generation are doing nothing at all to make the change happening faster. We see things happen like this in front of our own eyes, know that what is happening is utterly wrong and should be stopped immediately, but we do nothing but wait for others to make the first move or turn our back with a prick of uncomfortable guilt in our mind. we raise our voices in FB, write a lot of radical things in blogs, show us thoughtful of social anomalies but when things such as these happen in front of our eyes, we do actually nothing, like some of those young people at the party who saw the whole incident and did nothing but gossiped among themselves.
I once faced a near similar incident, Liks. I saw a man slapping a Rikshawpuller in broad daylight in front of the eyes of say atleast 50 odd people.the man claimed that the rikshawpuller was charging extra money and the others in the crowd immediately supported that man, his wife stood nonchalant and some elderly man mumbled ab jaane bhi do, bechara garib admi hai...
A lot of young peoplewere present there too including me, but I could do nothing to stop that man's odious actions. I felt shamed at my inability but that was hardly enough to change this kind of lordly attitude of class-conscious society.

Originally posted by: shreya_rc

Tanisha !!
muah !! me back kya re ! me toh was always there. yes, we should not expect older generations to be suddenly changed and liberal.Change should come from us but sadly our generations remain strangely indifferent. the thing i dislike in the show, is the cvs,narrator's constant effort to justify Raghu's scoundrelous motives and actions, making it appear as a father's very normal protective urge towards his ward , saying constantly that he loves his girl too much and worries about maintaining her star status.No much how hoarse they shout propagating that raghu is a normal loving dad, just a lil bit overbearing and control freak, nobody is convinced, I am sure. either they stop portraying him a monstrous power-hungry obnoxious man or they admit he is a psycho not a normal daddy.

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

THIS. This right here.

You've nailed it. This is what the main point underlining my whole issue. He is a psycho. I tried to be understanding. But no longer. He's a damn psycho and I can't stand it if they try to show how Yamini 'stays within her limits' in pursing her goals and dreams.

To me, I won't even take it if they suddenly stop portraying him the way they've portrayed him so far. Where's the consistency then? How would it be different than any other show where suddenly characterization is changed, or all we are supposed to forget what happened earlier? How is it different from those evil Saas who do horrible, ghatiya, things, but because they are family they eventually see the light without proper comeuppance?

If you want to promise something different and new and not regressive, then deliver it.

People in real life, people everyday venture out and stand up for what they want. They are not tied to needing permission and the blessing from such psycho parents. Look, I am not saying she needs to leave her family completely. But truth is--and you can see examples in the entertainment industry itself--such controlling fathers and parents usually get a Babaji ka Thullu in the form of their children hitting back. They usually do end up patching things up later, but those children do put their foot down and say I am doing this, I am gaining control of my finances, I am going to do what I want in my career, and you won't stop me.

@Bold Pink : if that the case we r waiting for, Liks, then I am afraid, Dangerdaddy's minnie has still a long way to go. the girl who virtually says nothing when her father openly insults the drama's co-lead and director y tearing his side of the pster, declaring only his star daughter would be in the limelight, and then she requests Nikumbh to put up with this nonsensical tantrums...I really dont know what to expect from her. A mere " I hav to rehearsal, papa...plz go home how," proves nothing.

^^They want to take this slow. I think the last scene where she told her father that she was not going home and was going to rehearse was a start. Not simply that she said it. But the way she said it. Without second thoughts. She refused him outright. I won't say much about the reaction to the poster. But I did see some shining light in the last scene. Maybe one day she'll find the courage to tell him that it is HER life. And he has no control over it. Chances are it will be with respect to Nikumbh.

Tanisha, if u r hopeful, then I will also learn to have patience and ff raghu's presence from the screen in the mean time. u back from b'desh?

Originally posted by: shreya_rc

Tanisha, if u r hopeful, then I will also learn to have patience and ff raghu's presence from the screen in the mean time. u back from b'desh?

Originally posted by: LoveToLaugh

Yep! Back.

I try to catch the show at 7 PM. So, even if I wanted I could not ff his scenes. The channel is screwing the show. I think they have cancelled all the repeats. 7 PM is such an inconvenient slot for most people. They keep airing savdhaan India 24/7.

I am now at B'lore, visiting broher's family. so getting less time to watch the show,and more less time to have forum discussion...nephews are really handful 😆. I tho most of the time watch it onine. impossible to watch on 7.30 and without any repeat telecast any show,no matter how much good its content is, will fare badly. and this nonstop savdhan India telecast...iss obsession ka ab kyaa naam doon !!😡

I agree that the waiter incident was really wrong. It was really bad that no one in that party took a stand for the waiter. And especially wrong from Yamini's part.

But then again, this is the girl who was subject to the dark room treatment as a form of punishment during her childhood days and still thinks that her father loves her. Such traumatizing punishments are equal to abuse. But I'm sure she doesn't even think that way. That is because she has grown up believing that whatever her father does is for her best and he loves her. It would take quite a lot for Yamini to realize that the way her father deals with other people for her sake and even with her is wrong.

Yamini has never been able to take a stand for herself against her father. So I'm not surprised she never spoke for the waiter... although she did look distressed during that incident. And I think that is the point of the story... that one day Yamini would change and might find the courage to stand against her father's wrong-doings...

Originally posted by: shreya_rc

I am now at B'lore, visiting broher's family. so getting less time to watch the show,and more less time to have forum discussion...nephews are really handful 😆. I tho most of the time watch it onine. impossible to watch on 7.30 and without any repeat telecast any show,no matter how much good its content is, will fare badly. and this nonstop savdhan India telecast...iss obsession ka ab kyaa naam doon !!😡

Originally posted by: shreya_rc

@Bold Pink : if that the case we r waiting for, Liks, then I am afraid, Dangerdaddy's minnie has still a long way to go. the girl who virtually says nothing when her father openly insults the drama's co-lead and director y tearing his side of the pster, declaring only his star daughter would be in the limelight, and then she requests Nikumbh to put up with this nonsensical tantrums...I really dont know what to expect from her. A mere " I hav to rehearsal, papa...plz go home how," proves nothing.