Why the Shift?? - Page 3

I'm reminded of Bill Clinton's famous "depends what the meaning of is is."😆

For those who don't know, that's not a complimentary comparison.😆

Back to the topic.

I think Karna's popular characterization owes a lot to modern day political atmosphere. An abandoned, low-caste warrior rising beyond the narrow restrictions imposed upon him by the virtue of birth sounds fascinating and inspirational. It's a contemporary thing. That's where modern Karna's whole appeal lies.

Shakuni, on the other hand, is vilified to save Karna I think. Tv serials refuse to show Karna's active participation in Duryodhana's schemes. Someone has to fill that gap.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

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I think Karna's popular characterization owes a lot to modern day political atmosphere. An abandoned, low-caste warrior rising beyond the narrow restrictions imposed upon him by the virtue of birth sounds fascinating and inspirational. It's a contemporary thing. That's where modern Karna's whole appeal lies.

Shakuni, on the other hand, is vilified to save Karna I think. Tv serials refuse to show Karna's active participation in Duryodhana's schemes. Someone has to fill that gap.

I don't know why I get irrelevant answer

I am asking exact meaning of formally relate to shakuni

" Shakuni formally gave gandhari to dhrithrashtra

Because formal have many meanings, official , detached, aloof , reserved, good manner, rules

So which meaning of formal will fix here

But I am getting answers that vyas did not write in this language

I am not asking in which language ved vyas write Mahabharata

And I don't know how is not make sense if want meaning of word

Exact meaning of word and exact use of language is very important particular mythology epic

Because wrong meaning and wrong word can give wrong information

Like we say Krishna ne kans ka vadh kiya . We don't say Krishna ne kans ka khoon kiya

Both khoon and vadh meaning to kill but appropriate word is vadh related to God

Even we don't say in bhagwan ki katha ki woh mar gaya , mar gayi

Mar gaya mar gayi is not appropriate word when someone dies in religious epic

Appropriate uski mrityu hui usne apna deh tyaga

Anyway I am stopping my argument here

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

It's just figure of speech for arranged marriage. As in she wasn't abducted like Subhadra or put through a contest like Panchali.

Was she given into marriage without her consent??

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Officially. Ceremonially handing over Gandhari to Dhritarashtra in marriage

Although that begs the question - why do serials show Subala doing the handover?

Actually this also makes sense.

Subala was alive till Dhritrashtra Gandhaari marriage, so why would Shakuni do the fixing of the alliance?? Shouldn't it be done by the father

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Actually this also makes sense.

Subala was alive till Dhritrashtra Gandhaari marriage, so why would Shakuni do the fixing of the alliance?? Shouldn't it be done by the father

The episode says Subala agreed to the marriage. Shakuni traveled with Gandhari to Hastinapuri to do the official thingamajig.

Krishna and Balram were the ones who traveled to Indraprastha after Subhadraharan. Dhrishtadyumna followed Arjuna and Panchali to potter's hut.

You were said multiple times that formalized meant being official, but you are not ready to accept it and making that it could mean something completely different.

And this is a very normal thing that if any word in the translation has multiple meanings you check the origin texts which you aren't ready to do. The words used in original text clearly means that he made the relation official, and this is on the meaning of formal, so why shouldn't we take meaning and consider the other meanings of the translated text

Still I know it's useless to try explaining you

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

The episode says Subala agreed to the marriage. Shakuni traveled with Gandhari to Hastinapuri to do the official thingamajig.

Krishna and Balram were the ones who traveled to Indraprastha after Subhadraharan. Dhrishtadyumna followed Arjuna and Panchali to potter's hut.

Oh thankyou makes sense

Please read my post propely

I no where accept meaning of formal as official

I have said that formal word has many meaning like official. Aloof, reserve , rules so I want which exact meaning of formal applies in terms of shakuni

Even I check in sankrit t to bhi mujhe uska meaning dekhna hi hoga and each word ke different synonym hotel hain

And even I have not ask u to explain to me