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Posted: 5 years ago
#71

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I would agree to disagree here 😇

The text gives out the vibes (in my opinion) that she knew Bheem loved her more than others so she trusted Bheem while she personally loved Arjun more than others. Note that I don't mean she fell for Arjun when he hit the fish eye or anything. It is a mature relationship that grew after marriage.

I also feel she wasn't born and then brought up painted and stuffed with politics and was a part of plans and alliances since the beginning. I believe her political awareness, her intelligence and enigma comes out after her marriage, as she grew older learnt and understood things. I don't think she married with some aim. She was only intelligent enough to understand that marrying Yudhi would give her the title of the empress and understanding this much isn't rocket science. Any princess would know this. But I below events played in favour of her leading her to marry Yudhi+4. I don't believe she had some pre planned notion of marrying Yudhi or she was power hungry and didn't care about Arjun since the Swayamvar.

What if Karna would have won? What would she do then. Karna is not a match for Arjun but he isn't completely useless in terms of warrior skills either. So I think her whole planning and schemes came after marriage.

Two points which indicates this fact can easily proved as a later interpolation exaggerated beyond a doubt. Sticking out like a sore thumb And there are many other points which indicates about arjuna pinning for drapaudi so if there was any partiality than it was from arjuna s side

Plus there are many instances which proves that she loved bheem even yudhishtra more than the othere. Hell forget any of them. Only person she calls out to in time of distress is krishna. And the way krishna gets angry everytime assault is mentioned all those promise. So i would say the text gives out vibes of krishna and krishnaa being soulmates.


But drapaudi was more than this she was smart shrewd calculative lady who i don't had time to lament about how many times one of het husband married or or to lament about his absence. Ofcourse everyone like some affectionate moments. And she had affection moments with all of them. But only soulmate relationship i will believe will be of Krishna and krishna.❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
#72

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Forget Karna what if Bheeshm had come to win the princess for Duryodhan. He could have easily accomplished. Plus I don't think Draupad personally would have much issues with Duryodhan either. His Adharma was not made public by then people considered him the Yuvraj of the biggest kingdom present. He would have infact loved this alliance without divine inteaarvention.


Krishna had his sister handy, had an alliance of Duryodhan and Panchali happened, he could have easily married her to any of the Kaurav brothers (his intention definitely wasn't to get a crown prince for his sister and he couldn't have anticipated that his nephew would become the crown prince) still winning a support by the two most powerful kingdoms. Yes Karna's win could have hampered his situation so maybe he was ready with Sutaputra excuse had he won


Krishna was closer to panchala probably knew them for a long time. That s why he did not participate in the Swamyvaar krishnaa was krishna sakhi from a long time. Plus yudhishtra was his cousin ofcourse he will choose pandavas over others anyday

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Posted: 5 years ago
#73

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Forget Karna what if Bheeshm had come to win the princess for Duryodhan. He could have easily accomplished. Plus I don't think Draupad personally would have much issues with Duryodhan either. His Adharma was not made public by then people considered him the Yuvraj of the biggest kingdom present. He would have infact loved this alliance without divine inteaarvention.


Krishna had his sister handy, had an alliance of Duryodhan and Panchali happened, he could have easily married her to any of the Kaurav brothers (his intention definitely wasn't to get a crown prince for his sister and he couldn't have anticipated that his nephew would become the crown prince) still winning a support by the two most powerful kingdoms. Yes Karna's win could have hampered his situation so maybe he was ready with Sutaputra excuse had he won

Exactly! Bhishma would win it within seconds and in fact why not target Dury and keep mace fighting contest. Dury would get chance before Bheem. Jarasandh would be the only competition here so why not call Dury first. Or yeah, archery so Bhishma can do it, or even Karna can win on behalf of Duey if ARJUN can win for YUDHI. I don't see why not Duryodhan?

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Posted: 5 years ago
#74

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Two points which indicates this fact can easily proved as a later interpolation exaggerated beyond a doubt. Sticking out like a sore thumb And there are many other points which indicates about arjuna pinning for drapaudi so if there was any partiality than it was from arjuna s side

Plus there are many instances which proves that she loved bheem even yudhishtra more than the othere. Hell forget any of them. Only person she calls out to in time of distress is krishna. And the way krishna gets angry everytime assault is mentioned all those promise. So i would say the text gives out vibes of krishna and krishnaa being soulmates.


But drapaudi was more than this she was smart shrewd calculative lady who i don't had time to lament about how many times one of het husband married or or to lament about his absence. Ofcourse everyone like some affectionate moments. And she had affection moments with all of them. But only soulmate relationship i will believe will be of Krishna and krishna.❤️


I agree with Krishna and Krishnaa having a beautiful relationship. There is enough evidence in the text too and it's one beautiful heterosexual friendship portrayed in the epic.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#75

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I didn't notice the edit. Just saw it RN. He was definitely supporting Arjun. He wanted ABHI'S son to become the king because he had Yadava blood. But again how would he know Ashwathama would murder Yudhi's kids. 🤣


Exactly, None can predict the future but Abhimanyu being the heir to the throne after Yudishtira ensured Krishna's support, not Abhimanyu's son but Abhimanyu himself, Satyaki's suggestion to fight with Abhimanyu as King proves they were in this for Abhimanyu like Shakuni was for Duryodhan.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#76

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever


Krishna was closer to panchala probably knew them for a long time. That s why he did not participate in the Swamyvaar krishnaa was krishna sakhi from a long time. Plus yudhishtra was his cousin ofcourse he will choose pandavas over others anyday

That indicates emotions over politics. Duryodhan would be an equally good match considering he knew and had his priorities fixed. Krishna didn't have to come running with to Yudhi to say no no dont forgive no no don't quit.

It was as easy as letting water flow through your fingers to cheat Yudhi out of his right without Krishna. He literally would be ready to spend his life in a Potter's hut. Honestly Dury is a better bet if you consider only politics and alliance and no instance of who was a better person.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#77

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever


Krishna was closer to panchala probably knew them for a long time. That s why he did not participate in the Swamyvaar krishnaa was krishna sakhi from a long time. Plus yudhishtra was his cousin ofcourse he will choose pandavas over others anyday

Panchal is definitely understood that would have been an associate to Dwarka irrespective of whom Draupadi married. However from the POV of Hastinapur, I don't think it mattered much to him if the person from there is Yudhishtir or Duryodhan.


Yes cousins but definitely they weren't very close to each other excluding the friendship of Krishna Arjun.

Kunti was adopted and she might have been hardly in close terms with Vasudev. Her brother was imprisoned and she despite being the wife of the most powerful king make any attempt to free him. Not that I blame her for this, but this clearly shows that they weren't very close. Aside Balram always preferred Duryodhan although he was the enemy of his cousins and brother in law

So removing the divinity, Krishna had no preference on any Kuru branch. He just needed the alliance between Kuru and Panchal and ensure both the kingdoms become his ally.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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If panchal naresh was looking for an alliance with Kurus, why would he plan with Pandavas winning the Swayamvar?


1 Everyone knew Duryodhan is staking claim for the throne, ultimately the Kingdom was bifurcated, Panchal forming an alliance by luring Pandavas doesn't make any sense, They get the same from Duryodhan


2 If they were partial towards Pandavas, why organize a Swayamvar, just marry her off to Yudi without any competition, Swayamvar was an option, not mandatory

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Posted: 5 years ago
#79

Originally posted by: NoraSM


Exactly, None can predict the future but Abhimanyu being the heir to the throne after Yudishtira ensured Krishna's support, not Abhimanyu's son but Abhimanyu himself, Satyaki's suggestion to fight with Abhimanyu as King probes they were in this for Abhimanyu like Shakuni was for Duryodhan.

I totally agree with your point here. I also believe this was Krishna's aim forever just like Shakuni wanted Dury aka Gandhar's blood on throne aka his nephew. Same with Krishna here and he got his way in the end. 😉

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Posted: 5 years ago
#80

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I totally agree with your point here. I also believe this was Krishna's aim forever just like Shakuni wanted Dury aka Gandhar's blood on throne aka his nephew. Same with Krishna here and he got his way in the end. 😉


Yahi to bol ri mai itna time se if This nephew would have been on Duryodhan's side, Krishna would have been on his side too, but Duryodhan marrying subhadra didn't happen therefore Krishna supported Arjun

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