Swarg part an interpolation? - Page 4

@Surabhi. The book that was written 5000 years ago by Vyas is NOT available with us. That has been lost.

The only major version we have is the oral transmission of Vaishampayan narrating it to Janamejay. Why would Ved Vyas write that Vaishampayan said so? The first chapter of the epic we have has these details.

And we all know that Mahabharata was written is Sanskrit it wasn't needed to add it, Hindi as language developed hardly a hundred and fifty years ago. Prior to that Khadi Boli was in practice which has its origins around a thousand years ago. Everyone before that spoke in Prakrit and wrote majorly in Sanskrit before it. Sanskrit is tough for us today, it wasn't so for the people who lived in

Panini ji who is supposed have created the Vyakaran of Classical Sanskrit was born around 6th century BC and Mahabharata in the form we have follows those principles. There is no way that Mahabharata in the form we have could be written before 6th century BC.

Although I do not believe in Wikipedia, but since you do, I would request you to check, it clearly states that the book in its current form was written in 3rd century BC to 3rd century AD with no parts predating 4th century BC. And this text was written in classic Sanskrit

Just think of it an instance took place around 3100 BC and the text we have is from after 400BC, 2500 years after the instance, what makes you think that there can be no Interpolation in it?

Plus even after that the Buddhists, the Islamist did make minor changes in the texts. They all knew Sanskrit. Sanskrit is tough for us, but it wasn't so for the people who studied Sanskrit in that era.

Just because something is written in Sanskrit ISN'T a proof of it not being interpolated

All the interpolation we discuss are things mentioned in the Sanskrit document, none of translators now add some instances by their will. Even the things KMG wrote are all there in the Sanskrit text

Coming to Geeta press I am sure they don't add anything by their own, but even KMG and others don't do that, the interpretations had happened even before Geeta Press was formed and major of it might have happened even before Printing press was invented.

Why would they for any reason mention BORI? Who writes that their competitor is better? But overall the research methods of BORI is better.

Yes they do the research to figure out which parts (written in Sanskrit) could be an interpolation and remove those, but that research is still going on and in further things might be removed.

Rest as I said you would just believe in things you want to and would not be ready to accept anything which goes contary to your beliefs

Originally posted by: surabhi01

I am not trolling any thing even I don't want to waste thing by repeating thing but at least my suggestion that don't give any information if u r not fully aware about it

Rest u can think about me what ever u want I don't care

No one excluding you are giving information they aren't aware of.

I don't even think you are reading what is being written to you no one is saying Geeta press isn't reliable. We are just saying that the Sanskrit texts that Geeta press had while preparing their translation had a lot of interpolations in them.

Rest even I am ending this discussion because your direction of conversation is filled with confirmation bias

Check my second comment on 4 th page of this thread then u will know who wrote Mahabharata it and how it is narrated to different people by different

And this is new things for me that vedvyas did not compose Mahabharata

At least from school book I always read that Mahabharata is written by vedvyas

I never read and I never hear that Mahabharata is not compose by vedvyas

That means school book is also unreliable source ?

Yes I do believe ved yyas written Mahabharata

Original composer of Mahabharata is vedvyas only

Because whether in Wikipedia, or in geeta press book or in school book every where I read that Mahabharata is originally compose by vedvyas

If u any valid source then Mahabharata is not written by vedvyas u can show me

And in Wikipedia most of articles taken from news paper magazine . Wikipedia does not let fake information . If anyone edit with fake information then Wikipedia surely remove it

Like for eg Wikipedia about information Mahatma Gandhi took from newspaper. Magazine people read from news paper magazine and then edit. What they have read from news paper magazine They don't add any thing by their own imagination

Now people rarely read books most people rely on net for information so one make sure that it should not be false if it is giving false information then this Wikipedia site would have been remove

I feel like making up something in Sanskrit just to 'interpolate'😆

vAsudeva uvAcha: Arjuna, bratha tataH apara matr.

P.S. Sanskritists, I know it's all wrong😆. Just felt like it.

There might be changes in Mahabharata by many author over years even ramayan change by many author over years

We don't have complete original Mahabharata and complete original ramayan in today world but it doesn't not mean valmiki was not original composer of ramayan and ved vyas is not original composer of Mahabharata

And THAT is a classical example of strawman argument.😆

Once again I am saying in geeta press it is written that ved vyas compose n 600000 verse and some part of it narrated to dev lok

Some part of 600000ver verse narrated to pitralok

Some part narrated to gandharv

Some part is narrated by vaishampayne to janemey

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

And THAT is a classical example of strawman argument.😆

Her claims are best being ignored, on one side she says Wikipedia is very reliable and on the other side isn't ready to accept that the Wikipedia's statement that the text we have has no verse older than 4th century BC, or the fact that Wikipedia mentions that Mahabharata followed by oral traditions and it was not preserved word by word like the Vedas so it changed in language and style.

She also ignored that the same Wikipedia said that Jaya is attributed to Vyas, Bharat to Vaishampayan and Mahabharata to Utsrava.

Here is link which gives fully description how Mahabharata transfer from another to another

http://hi.krishnakosh.org/कृष्ण/महाभारत_आदि_पर्व_अध्याय_1_श्लोक_1-11

http://hi.krishnakosh.org/कृष्ण/महाभारत_आदि_पर्व_अध्याय_1_श्लोक_12-27

http://hi.krishnakosh.org/कृष्ण/महाभारत_आदि_पर्व_अध्याय_1_श्लोक_28-41

http://hi.krishnakosh.org/कृष्ण/महाभारत_आदि_पर्व_अध्याय_1_श्लोक_42-58

Where i say that I am not ready to accept Wikipedia

State ment

And I have already suggest don't give half information to proove anything

In Wikipedia it is mention author ship is attributed to vedvyas

Yes u can ignore my claim but please don't give half information to proove anything at least to me

Another in Wikipedia that Mahabharata book is compiled in 4 the century . No where it is written that that Mahabharata i was written n 4 the century but it was compiled

And it is also written in Wikipedia that time to time there is attempt to unravel Mahabharata text

Once again I will. Suggest to read Wikipedia again it is stated that Mahabharata was compiled in 3rd or 4th century. It doesn't not say it is written in 3rd bce

In Wikipedia it is written

The text was compiled in 3rd bce and text is much older than 400 bce and text reach it form finally in 4 th entury Gupta period. This is what I read in Wikipedia

It now where said verse is not older than 4 th century

Anyway I am also stop putting argument as I don't want argue with half information and wrong information any more

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