Mahabharat of B. R. Chopra: Discussions/ DT note pg 119 - Page 79

Originally posted by: vyapti

Thou must, however, conceal this our discourse for the present, O slayer of Madhu. Therein lies our benefit, I think, O delighter of all the Yadavas. If king Yudhishthira, of virtuous soul and well-controlled senses, cometh to know me as the firstborn son of Kunti, he will never accept the kingdom. If,again, O slayer of Madhu, this mighty and swelling empire becometh mine. I shall, O repressor of foes, certainly make it over to Duryodhana only. Let Yudhishthira of virtuous soul become king for ever. He that hath Hrishikesa for his guide, and Dhananjaya and that mighty car-warrior Bhima for his combatants, as also Nakula and Sahadeva, and the sons of Draupadi, is fit, O Madhava, to rule over the whole earth.

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Alright, accepted. However, the rest stands. That's what I mean by creative liberty 😊

Seriously ?? Drapaudi was not a piece of property that since a new member has come he should also get a piece of her . Krishna was nobody to offer her to anyone. What people don't understand is the great move that he played to manipulate karna.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Seriously ?? Drapaudi was not a piece of property that since a new member has come he should also get a piece of her . Krishna was nobody to offer her to anyone. What people don't understand is the great move that he played to manipulate karna.

And respectfully saluting that foremost of the Kurus, Kesava mournfully said, 'The earth shall drink the blood of Duryodhana and Karna, of Dussasana and the wicked Sakuni! Slaying these in battle and defeating their followers along with their royal allies, will we all install Yudhishthira the just on the throne! The wicked deserve to be slain! Verily, this is eternal morality.'

^ Vana Parva

It must be noted that Krishna's attitude towards Karna was never positive.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Absolutely! Before meeting Karna he had said that the earth shall drink the blood of the quartet.

And respectfully saluting that foremost of the Kurus, Kesava mournfully said, 'The earth shall drink the blood of Duryodhana and Karna, of Dussasana and the wicked Sakuni! Slaying these in battle and defeating their followers along with their royal allies, will we all install Yudhishthira the just on the throne! The wicked deserve to be slain! Verily, this is eternal morality.'

^ Vana Parva

It must be noted that Krishna's attitude towards Karna was never positive.

Exactly he wanted him dead and he made sure karna s resolved is weakened and he is dead

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Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Absolutely! Before meeting Karna he had said that the earth shall drink the blood of the quartet.

And respectfully saluting that foremost of the Kurus, Kesava mournfully said, 'The earth shall drink the blood of Duryodhana and Karna, of Dussasana and the wicked Sakuni! Slaying these in battle and defeating their followers along with their royal allies, will we all install Yudhishthira the just on the throne! The wicked deserve to be slain! Verily, this is eternal morality.'

^ Vana Parva

It must be noted that Krishna's attitude towards Karna was never positive.

Yes! Krishna, the master manipulator knew that Karna would never leave Duryodhan. He was just weakening Karna's resolution against the Pandavas. But even that didn't work much considering the way Karna participated in the brutal killing of Abhimanyu.

Originally posted by: sonnet11

Yes! Krishna, the master manipulator knew that Karna would never leave Duryodhan. He was just weakening Karna's resolution against the Pandavas. But even that didn't work much considering the way Karna participated in the brutal killing of Abhimanyu.

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

Even Karna's resolution against Arjuna wasn't weakened. Killing the latter was his ultimate goal. This the major force that compelled him to stick with Duryodhana.

Exactly! Arjun was his only target. This shows his weakness. He should have worked hard to beat Arjun in archery instead of dreaming to kill him. It is like I have a competitor and instead of excelling my art, I plan to kill him. What does it say about one's character?!

His resolve was rooted in his bitterness which remained intact. That bitterness became a poison for his own self. In the final episode, Samay, the kathavaachak rightly described.. "...aur unka maun sakshi hai ki wo Draupadi vastraharan main bhagidar hain. Hey manav! Tu inse hatkar apna rasta bana, nahi to ye tujhe bhi Suryaputra Karna ki bhanti apne andhkar main ghaseet lenge."

I didn't not understand why is it so hard for karn leave duryodhan when karn know duryodhan follow path of adharm when he himself whatever duryodhan is doing is not correct . Why he could not able to protest duryodhan

Just because duryodhan made karn king of angraaj ? So he could not protest duryodhan?

They why karn did not return back angraaj to duryodhan or resign himself from angraaj and free himself from all debt fought from side of pandav

It means karn did not trust pandav , and even did not trust Lord Krishna words

Have you noticed it is a constant tendency of Krishna to keep going behind singhasans! 90% of the shanti doot scene he spent hovering behind Dhritu uncle and nowvhe'll go hover behind Yudi! 🤣