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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai




Pro,

I have few Q’s.


Did Draupadi’s sons participate in war or not?


Yes they did. 😊


How come Draupadi’s sons never took part in war or were never injured while Subhadra’s son took part actively from Day 1 and died on Day 13?


They had minor roles and were way younger than Abhi. And everybody kept getting hurt na, only the hi-fi things were reported by Sanjay uncle. 😆


Why only Abhimanyu got married and not Draupadi’s sons before war took place?


I can't remember that exactly, you could try checking Stri parva and see if any of Upa-pandava wives were mentioned. Ghatotkacha was eldest, and uske baad Abhi, so as bade log inke wives are more commonly mentioned. 😊

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Posted: 5 years ago

Pankaj Dheer's performance was very good today. Loved the Krishna-Karna bit.

However, isn't this too much creative liberty 🤣

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Pankaj Dheer's performance was very good today. Loved the Krishna-Karna bit.

However, isn't this too much creative liberty 🤣

That was too much. 😆

Even the kavach kundal scene was too much.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Wistfulness

That was too much. 😆

Even the kavach kundal scene was too much.

Absolutely. Naturally the makers are huge Karna fans. 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Absolutely. Naturally the makers are huge Karna fans. 😆

Pankaj Dheer had blatantly refused to play Karna. Then the makers gave him some books related to Karna to help him understand the character and to change his decision. This may have played a part in Karna's characterization in the show.
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Pankaj Dheer's performance was very good today. Loved the Krishna-Karna bit.

However, isn't this too much creative liberty 🤣




Sorry for editing.

Edited by vyapti - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: vyapti

Can you specifically mention the dialogues which feel like too much creative liberty. I want to know.

I am not very fluent in Hindi or remember the dialogues by heart, but I'll point out the incidents I felt like creative liberty.

Firstly, Karna saying something like kaisa apna vaan Arjun ki aur doon - this goes completely against his character and what he keeps stating that his main aim is to kill/prove himself superior to Arjun. Even till the end he never moved from his aim.

Secondly, not Bheeshma but Karna was the one who refused to fight as long as Bheeshma did. That's another creative liberty.

Karna talking about how he is only supporting Dury because he is bound to is also not authentic because he always remained against the Pandavas and hated them. Besides that, he chose Duryodhan because he knew only then he could face Arjun.

Him saying he wants Yudhishthir to be king and he should be the one - basically the general notion that he wants good for Pandavas is not something I buy.

"Kaurav ka parajay nishchit hai" - Karna actually believed this? I don't think so.

He was the one who suggested Duryodhan makes Bheeshma the commander is what epic Karna would never do. And he was so okay with it when Bheeshma said he would not fight. This goes against facts as well as his character.


Hope I could explain :)

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I am not very fluent in Hindi or remember the dialogues by heart, but I'll point out the incidents I felt like creative liberty.

Firstly, Karna saying something like kaisa apna vaan Arjun ki aur doon - this goes completely against his character and what he keeps stating that his main aim is to kill/prove himself superior to Arjun. Even till the end he never moved from his aim.

Secondly, not Bheeshma but Karna was the one who refused to fight as long as Bheeshma did. That's another creative liberty.

Karna talking about how he is only supporting Dury because he is bound to is also not authentic because he always remained against the Pandavas and hated them. Besides that, he chose Duryodhan because he knew only then he could face Arjun.

Him saying he wants Yudhishthir to be king and he should be the one - basically the general notion that he wants good for Pandavas is not something I buy.

"Kaurav ka parajay nishchit hai" - Karna actually believed this? I don't think so.

He was the one who suggested Duryodhan makes Bheeshma the commander is what epic Karna would never do. And he was so okay with it when Bheeshma said he would not fight. This goes against facts as well as his character.


Hope I could explain :)

Thou must, however, conceal this our discourse for the present, O slayer of Madhu. Therein lies our benefit, I think, O delighter of all the Yadavas. If king Yudhishthira, of virtuous soul and well-controlled senses, cometh to know me as the firstborn son of Kunti, he will never accept the kingdom. If,again, O slayer of Madhu, this mighty and swelling empire becometh mine. I shall, O repressor of foes, certainly make it over to Duryodhana only. Let Yudhishthira of virtuous soul become king for ever. He that hath Hrishikesa for his guide, and Dhananjaya and that mighty car-warrior Bhima for his combatants, as also Nakula and Sahadeva, and the sons of Draupadi, is fit, O Madhava, to rule over the whole earth.




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Posted: 5 years ago

Karna's meeting with Krishna ,the conversation ,the revelation the entire sequence was great to watch 👍🏼 ,Pankaj dheer was brilliant .

But it had me thinking -Krishna says Indraprasth crown is yours,five brothers to follow u,you get ur mom but he doesn't mention Draupadi at all.Doesnt she get 6th husband too? By Kunthi's sharing rulesmiley24 will he automatically become her husband.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: pjyo

Karna's meeting with Krishna ,the conversation ,the revelation the entire sequence was great to watch 👍🏼 ,Pankaj dheer was brilliant .

But it had me thinking -Krishna says Indraprasth crown is yours,five brothers to follow u,you get ur mom but he doesn't mention Draupadi at all.Doesnt she get 6th husband too? By Kunthi's sharing rulesmiley24 will he automatically become her husband.

Yes Krishna said that Draupadi will get 6th husband in the epic, but if it is shown in a TV series just imagine the uproar it will create.

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