Update 21st July 2005 - Page 4

Originally posted by: TimeSaverr

Poison kills poison and Astha needs to go through a lot of suffering to forget about all this crap. What other thing can give her more torture than being raped.

I'm waiting for an answer

Have you or ANYONE you know ever been raped? Do you have any concept of what happens to someone when they are raped?

I'm going to start a longer message here.

All,

Absolutely, Aastha is WAY out of line with her behavior. It may be Simran's overprotective parenting, it may be the lack of a father figure in her life, it may be the fact that she has been overindulged with everything that she has ever wanted.

There are mature and responsible ways for people to react to their issues. Aastha has not employed any.

There is also a mature, responsible and ETHICAL way to show Aastha the error of her ways and to help her come to an understanding of the issues - this is what Abhi is doing.

There is even further, a mature, responsible, ethical and TACTFUL way to discuss the issues at hand and potential ways to resolve them.

Aastha is not commiting a crime by being a brat, yes she is annoying, yes she is out of line, but no she is not commiting a crime.

A rape is a violation against a woman. It is the stripping of her right of choice and the force of another individuals choice and power over her. It is in virtually every country a Felony CRIME and something the United Nations tries as a WAR CRIME.

Would we say that because Aastha can not behave that we should kill her Naani? Or bomb her house? No. Similarly, we should not suggest that this heinous type of behavior is a way to reproach her behavior.

It is our jobs to teach our kids responsible behavior, to emulate good values and ethics. If raping someone to teach them a lesson is condoned, then what will our children learn? what happens if the victim of rape is your sister, your mother, your cousin, your daughter, your future wife? Would you wish it on her then?

Originally posted by: TimeSaverr

Poison kills poison and Astha needs to go through a lot of suffering to forget about all this crap. What other thing can give her more torture than being raped.

That is utter crap. What the hell? If someone acts insane, does not mean we do the same. So what is the difference between good and bad. Just to cure bad, people need not be punished worst. There are other ways to fight crime. Sensible thoughts say, to act wisely....not show power and try to get your meaning across.

Men who are involved with rapes are week and don't have a way to speak and get there message across. They are the worst creature in the world, who should not exist. Why should astha get such severe punishment...a person going through a trauma can feel the pain. She has lost her mother, her dad has come back after years and he still looks for Simran. Astha is suffering for the mistakes her dad did many years ago. So who should be punished and how would you punish Abhi now?

If someone had to be blamed for her behaviour it is only Abhi...

Sorry Smish, I did not see ur message and just now edited Timesaver's message...

Anyway, rape can never, ever, be punishment for anything. It's not a punishment. It's a crime. The most heinous of all crimes which does not have any place in a decent society. Perhaps just next to killing of an innocent child by his own parent.........

So Timesaver, please do not even think about such an action for any woman,ever. In proposing such an action, you have actually offended each and every woman on this forum. To even think that one can even think of such a thing of any woman is a big crime in itself.....

In this world, there are many ways to tackle an issue. Invading someone physically is not one of them. Please bear that in mind. In such a case, the pain is not only hers, but everyone around her and for the society which bears such a beastly crime.

Also, please bear in mind the sensitivity of others while discussing any issue. This applies to all of us. So kindly observe respect in your thought process so that others do not get so upset , appalled and hurt.........

Friends, let calmness prevail. Timesaverr, please do not use such bad language for any woman, this has hurt one and all. I do not want to again go into the matter, as i will be rekindling the fire again...Thanks Vijay, Smisha, Minnie for replying....

Timesaverr, welcome to this forum. You are probably new here, so i would like to tell you that we do not allow any kind of obscene and hurting comments on this forum. So i hope you will correct yourself, do not repeat the mistake you have done....Please come forward, post good and constructive replies, we will really appreciate it...

Victory, thanks for all the things you did...Please stay calm. This is what i can request and really expect from you...

Hope this argument stops here......

Sree

I think Ajay Sinsha should give more sense in asthas charecter. She is just overreacting for nothing. 😕

It is neither Abhi's nor Astha's mistake. It is all Simran's fault. She should have told the truth. No need to hide about things like Radhaji's illness and about Sia and Abhi. There is no meaning for her to wait for time.

Actually it is bad parenting

whether Simran should have told truth then or now, is another subject, but how to respect your elders and how to behave with them is a fundamental thing we teach our children and she failed miserably.

all she did was laad piyar and never used the stick ( punishment for bad behaviour)

I have seen many divorces/widowed moms raising very well behaved kids . they put more efforts in making sure that the kid is on the right track..

Since when did we allow the children to run the house hold. what happened to "GHAR KAY TARIKAY SIKHANA" etc etc

In that respect , I think Archanna has raised Sia better than Simran raising Astha ..

Hey all:)

I'm calm, no worries. FYI, I used to be a crisis counsellor, so this is something that I've seen up close and personal dozens of times.😭

With that said and done. Abhi's punishment is to watch how Simran struggles, to feel Aastha's behavior rip at his heart and to be forced to grow up. His challenge will be smoothing the Love Triangle between Sia-Sid-Aastha and I Think he will take Sia's side in this, where Simran has taken Aasthas. This is going to cause conflict between him and Sim...and is going to be the truest punishment and test of his maturity.

Cheers:)😳

TimeSavrr,

Rape is not something you wish even to your worst enemy.

Lets not forget its television. The land of make believe.

Please put some thought into how the victims of rape feel.

Good Luck.

JigC