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Posted: 20 years ago
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Rachel & XYZEE

I totally agree to both your points. Very well Stated.
But irrespective of problems created by self or by others, in real life, one should not behave and react like Simran. Her reactions were/are worse either when self-created or problems created by others

She really does not know how to tackle and react to a problem
She thinks hiding is the best policy
She wants to control things and people around her
She thinks she can totally control everything
She was really behaving bad & kiddish when she was meeting Abhi secretely - hiding from Astha
When Urmila asked about Hotel bill (i think either she had kept abhi or sia) Simran just walked out with a smile on her face saying she has work. That was too bad and Urmila was totaly left out
Lastly who can forget her behaviour when she was in Abhi-Neha's life...crying holding their bedsheets 😡

Anyways these are purely my opinions
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: chukkna


That's what I think. I am not rude abut Simmy, but she is suffering for her own deeds.

Well, she suffered for some of her own deeds, doubtlessly so..She as well as others are to blame, who backed her up on all of that. But here we are talking of things that were beyond her control, that is the subject of the main thread. And in all the strings of death that took place - I am surprised she maintained her sanity..The director has undoubtedly gone overboard with her sufferings, all the deaths and her MIL's torture and everything else that were not under her control.. She is not a perfect woman but at least the director has shown someone with flaws and not the goody-goody, can never do any wrong charatcers we of see on Zee, Sony and Star Plus.. I am also glad they have not shown her like Saloni in Saat-Phere or ridiculous story lines like that. I apolgize, this is just my viewpoint. I agree that Simran is flawed but that is what makes her more human than other goody two shoes we see and who also drive me up the wall.. I am not a die hard fan of Simran's but there are aspects of her I admire and I certainly am not a Simran hater either though I respect the viewpoints of Simran haters as well:-) I did not want to get too much ino this discussion because I am sure I would be labelled a Simran Bhakt by many , however I could not resist putting in my 2 cents worth here..I do believe she has undergone more sufferings in the way of seeing so many deaths, etc than an average real life person would.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Its not only simran but her dad also seen same number of deaths and especially his wife. Rashmi lost her first husband. Simran alone not seeing these deaths, she is just one among the entire family. Morethan her, rashmi, simran's dad, anadi's husband... should have been hurt morethan what simran had to, b'coz they experienced the death of the life partner
Edited by rachel490 - 20 years ago
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: rachel490

Its not only simran but her dad also seen same number of deaths and especially his wife. Rashmi lost her first husband. Simran alone not seeing these deaths, she is just one among the entire family. Morethan her, rashmi, simran's dad, anadi's husband... should have been hurt morethan what simran had to, b'coz they experienced the death of the life partner

True and they showed Simran's dad and Rashmi's sorrow, very much so.. In fact, Simran's dad was shown repenting bitterly because he had also betrayed his wife before that.. I also think losing a mom is no less sad than losing a life partner (assuming one is close to their parents which Simran was).. But Simran also lost her children twice over plus all deaths and faced bitter betrayals at the same time. They showed other peoples' sorrow but they concentrated more on her sorrow because she is the main protaganist. I don't think there is any Hindi serial where they give more importance to others sorrows than the main heros or heroines. Besides Rashmi did find happiness after that with a good life partner but Simran did not for many years. I do not deny that others have faced sorrow, all I am saying is that her sorrow was not less or cannot be dismissed easily. I try putting myself in her shoes and believe me I do not think hers is an enviable situation..

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: xyzzee

I also think losing a mom is no less sad than losing a life partner (assuming one is close to their parents which Simran was)..

200% agreed

Originally posted by: xyzzee

all I am saying is that her sorrow was not less or cannot be dismissed easily.

yep thats what my point is. Simran is not alone who is having problems in astitva, there are plenty along with her who experienced problems including simran's first love abhi. Its sad that everyone is worried about simran's problems only.

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Posted: 20 years ago
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yep thats what my point is. Simran is not alone who is having problems in astitva, there are plenty along with her who experienced problems including simran's first love abhi. Its sad that everyone is worried about simran's problems only.

Simply bcoz others know and they are worried that Simran cannot handle problems alone

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Posted: 20 years ago
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yep thats what my point is. Simran is not alone who is having problems in astitva, there are plenty along with her who experienced problems including simran's first love abhi. Its sad that everyone is worried about simran's problems only.

Simply bcoz others know and they are worried that Simran cannot handle problems alone

very well said 👏👏

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: rachel490

yep thats what my point is. Simran is not alone who is having problems in astitva, there are plenty along with her who experienced problems including simran's first love abhi. Its sad that everyone is worried about simran's problems only.

That's true, you are 100% right, everyone has had problems. I guess the only thing is that the common person who has seen all sufferings and most were related to her - was Simran.. I mean even in the death/tragedy of others, Simran was somehow affected, because she too was related to the persons or shared some kind of a bonding/relationship with those persons who has died/suffered and was hence affected by the sorrows.. I do agree that Ajai Sinha could have foucussed on the emotions of others as well, but hey, what do you expect from these serials?!:-) They don't have the time or story line to focus on one person's sorrows so can't imagine them focus on on everyone else's..Typical of Hindi Serials to only focus on the main protaganists's sorrows/happiness, etc..

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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: xyzzee

I do agree that Ajai Sinha could have foucussed on the emotions of others as well, but hey, what do you expect from these serials?!:-)

I expect to see a change in the way hindi serials are being shown/directed/plotted. I know plenty of sas-bahu watching these serials at home and feeling anger about each other comparing themselves with these stupid characters in the serials(ofcousrse only if sas/bahu having misunderstandings with bahu/sas).

Instead I would expect to show something realistic which can help the society a bit better. If they cannot help the society thats fine but do not damage further. I like the oldies alot compared the current ones. For ex., rajini, nukkad, humlog, buniyaad. malgudi days, etc. If the directors cannot bring in the right plot into the story then stop directing. They are not suited for that role.

People are paying somuch money for getting these channels every month and atleast give some entertainment to the people instead of sending them into further grief by showing such depressing storyline

Zee management and other channel's management should be locked in a room for 1 week and should be shown these soaps one after other without a break. Then let them decide if they want to telecast these serials.

Edited by rachel490 - 20 years ago
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Posted: 20 years ago
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Originally posted by: rachel490

I expect to see a change in the way hindi serials are being shown/directed/plotted. I know plenty of sas-bahu watching these serials at home and feeling anger about each other comparing themselves with these stupid characters in the serials(ofcousrse only if sas/bahu having misunderstandings with bahu/sas).

Instead I would expect to show something realistic which can help the society a bit better. If they cannot help the society thats fine but do not damage further. I like the oldies alot compared the current ones. For ex., rajini, nukkad, humlog, buniyaad. malgudi days, etc. If the directors cannot bring in the right plot into the story then stop directing. They are not suited for that role.

People are paying somuch money for getting these channels every month and atleast give some entertainment to the people instead of sending them into further grief by showing such depressing storyline

Zee management and other channel's management should be locked in a room for 1 week and should be shown these soaps one after other without a break. Then let them decide if they want to telecast these serials.

Agreed!! In the beginning they showed a good story line and some of the messages regarding a girl baby, dowry, a woman being independent and working, a girl sharing a close relationship with parents after marriage, etc. were good. In fact that is what attracted me towards the serial in the beginning because the messages they showed by and large were good! But now it is only degrading day by day.. Of course most of the other serials with the exception of Kashish and Kareena-Kareena are worse and it is sad to see Astitva follow the same route by dragging the serial like rubber..I watched Saath Phere which has a good theme but it was dealt with so shoddily with crap for dialogues that I could not sit and watch it for more than 5 minutes. Sorry if I have hurt Saat Phere fans. This is just how I feel. Same with Ekta Kapoor serials where the dialogues are so cliched about a girl being Paraiah Dhan and all that BS. If I hear those dialogues again, I won't be surprised if I explode..

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