Vanraj and Anuj are the same - Page 4

Audacity of people to comparing AK with V🤣🤣🤣

I can't even believe this topic exists. You can dislike Anuj as much as you want, the current track has very much been made against him and one can't deny that he's wrong but to equate him with Vanraj? Is everyone forgetting the kind of person Vanraj was and continues to be to this day? He's not changed one bit, I mean he got his wife pregnant while trying to get his ex-wife back for God's sake. And let's not even talk about his personality and actions. Seriously the writers actually know their target audience well, people who just go based on the writing day to day completely forgetting past events and basic character sketches of people. I find it awfully sad not because there's something bad being said about Anuj but because this dilutes Vanraj's actions, as a chauvinistic, abusive, cheating, toxic, downright evil human being. Writers are really successful in their WW if they're able to get audience to equate the two of them.

Originally posted by: Fighter03

Imagine trying to give a sexist and bigoted narrative to every post speaking against your idol.

Pari had gone missing, like, been kidnapped. Also she was a small baby. CA is 7 years old and had willingly gone with her own mother. He could have gone to court or police to fight for her custody like any educated person rather than behave so erratically and leave his wife.

Also, I was talking about obsession in the context of mental health and instability and you tried to give it a cheap turn. Speaks volumes about the mindset.

Yeah, not cool.

I am not giving a sexist narrative to everything, but calling a father's love for his daughter obsession is 100% sexist and this narrative has been spread again and again and again on this forum

Dude it was just few days after losing his daughter, people are allowed to mourn and be shocked and behave erratically when they lose their kids it takes months for people to be normal and be rational enough to fight back after such a shock. And yes, gasp, thats even true for guys and fathers, not just women. Fathers can be emotional and depressed and shocked too at losing a child they planned a future with suddenly. They are not unfeeling automation who always think rationally just because they are male

And now someone mourning and being depressed after losing his daughter is mental illness, Sure you are not sexist buddy

Originally posted by: poobaniparvati9

I can't even believe this topic exists. You can dislike Anuj as much as you want, the current track has very much been made against him and one can't deny that he's wrong but to equate him with Vanraj? Is everyone forgetting the kind of person Vanraj was and continues to be to this day? He's not changed one bit, I mean he got his wife pregnant while trying to get his ex-wife back for God's sake. And let's not even talk about his personality and actions. Seriously the writers actually know their target audience well, people who just go based on the writing day to day completely forgetting past events and basic character sketches of people. I find it awfully sad not because there's something bad being said about Anuj but because this dilutes Vanraj's actions, as a chauvinistic, abusive, cheating, toxic, downright evil human being. Writers are really successful in their WW if they're able to get audience to equate the two of them.

There are two blatant evils behind those posts

1) Pure sexism. A father cannot love his daughter and be depressed and behave erratically after losing her. only moms can. A father can never plan to have kids and dream for a family, its obsession and they are forcing it on others, only a woman can dream to have kids after marriage. A father's love can only be an obsession, only a mothers love is real

2) Bigotry against adopted kids. So many keep trying about "biological vs non biological" in every single post

So of course if you consider an adopted kid to not be a real daughter and you think Anuj being a male is just "obsessed" over some random kid, then you will think his actions are so evil towards the Goddess Maa.

Originally posted by: YoungHeart

It is an obsession. Yes what Anuj felt for CA was obsession, the same way he stalked Anu and was obsessed with her for 26 yrs.
CA was a foster kid where it wasn’t guaranteed that they could adopt her legally. Maya had legal rights to take the kid away. He should have accepted that and let the kid go… if he wanted kid so badly, should have adopted before getting married.. If he still wanted a kid after CA, should have tried to talk to Anu about having bio kid via surrogacy or something or adopting another kid who needs a home. When you know you can’t stake a claim on a kid you fostered, you let the kid go gracefully because legally you have no rights on the kid. That’s what a sensible, mature person would do. Clearly Anuj Kapadia is far from it.

Keep calling a father's love obsession, I am a father myself, but hey what do we know

And are you seriously saying men are machines? Accept when we lose kids? A woman can go into depression and mental illness when losing a kid but men should just be ok and think rationally?

Wanted a kid after CA? Do you think kids are gajar mooli or other vegetables to fathers which can be replaced immediately with another? Do you understand what you people are even saying here? You think kdis are groceries to their father?

I genuinely pity the fathers of many people here if this is what their think of their love for their kids

So let me get this straight, women can mourn when they lose kids they love, they can have mourning period etc but men should behave rationally and maturely the very second? Even if they feel their life is over because they lost someone they love so much? They should just switch off immediately and behaving rationally because men are unfeeling machines?

Sexist, sexist, sexist

Vanraj and Anuj can't be the same as the latter is just an unrealistic fantasy gone wrong. Anupamaa invested 25+ years of her life in Vanraj and his family, and he will always be connected to her as the father of her children, the son of her adoptive parents, co-grandparents etc if not husband. She forgave every mistake of Vanraj whereas she could never connect with Anuj for the long term. On top of that, he might keep running away and re-appearing sporadically. Anuj is like a weekend trip or temporary high for her whereas Vanraj and family are the home/senses one comes back to.

Originally posted by: poobaniparvati9

Seriously the writers actually know their target audience well, people who just go based on the writing day to day completely forgetting past events and basic character sketches of people. I find it awfully sad not because there's something bad being said about Anuj but because this dilutes Vanraj's actions, as a chauvinistic, abusive, cheating, toxic, downright evil human being. Writers are really successful in their WW if they're able to get audience to equate the two of them.

This is similar to what I'm saying that they know their audience very well. In fact, you may be giving them too much of a pass. Most people watching want to see Anupamaa as a sacrificing and servile lady because that's all she is supposed to be. A second man coming in and taking the place of the all important husband is simple unacceptable and unpalatable. If Vanraj and Shahs have wronged Anupamaa so much, why has she never taken a strong stand for herself. Because for a character like her and the real life people she is inspired from or appeals to, these are merely minor transgressions which should be ignored in favour of keeping your family and marital life intact. Hence, the clean chit to Shahs and Anupamaa forever being at their beck and call. Rather than equating two characters where one of them is actually an absurdity, the writers are successful in portraying that her life will continue to revolve around Shahs.

But why anuj feeling so sad for some one else daughter

He can mourn he can feel sad as much he want if choti really belong to anuj either legally or biological .but here choti no way belong to anuj when her own mother maaya has come

Since cvs are not gong to proove whether maaya Is real mother of choti or not so let me believe maaya Is real mother of choti

So when choti real mother already come then crying for choti which is no way belong to anuj seems completely illogical

Chalo Ek. Baar anuj mourn bhi samajh for time being aata that yes anuj has developed bond with choti in this 6 month

But yeh kya ki main choti ko apne se door nahi jaane doonga

Choti ke liye anupama ko chod Dena shaadi todna ki baat karna dena when choti no way belong to anuj

Yeh kis angle se sahi hai ?yeh to bekaar ki jid hai

Anuj choti ke liye anupama se shaadi todna ki baat kar raha tha anupama ko hamesha chodne ki baat kar raha tha hence anuj is crictised

Because it is extremely wrong Because for that choti who no way belong to anuj for that anuj anupama se shaadi todna ki baat kar raha tha

No vanraj and Anuj are not same.

If we say both are same then we are diluting vanraj's actions. Vanraj is misogynist, mother's puppet, toxic and evil human being. He is manipulative and selfish in all means. He is not even a good father no matter how much Anupama says so. In fact she herself is not a good mother no matter how much makers show her the one.

A good mother does mean to tolerate all insults, erratic actions of your children which she does all the time. Talking about Vanraj,

he never left a chance to abuse, make fun of and belittle Anupama even in front of her children. On top of that he cheated her.

Anuj not even once disrespected Anupama or any other lady for that matter. He is not manipulative rather he is straight forward. Just for one decision or action we can not define a character. Character of a person is defined by his behaviour, actions, his approach for everything in life over long term.Not just how he/she behave with a single person or in one situation.

Anuj is emotional fool and does not know how to handle situation wisely. Actually in beginning he was shown wise but now to hype Anupama his character has been degraded.

That's it. And I don't think with such a illogical storyline we should discuss character's. Here makers change character as per the convenience.

Originally posted by: Wanderers36

Vanraj and Anuj can't be the same as the latter is just an unrealistic fantasy gone wrong. Anupamaa invested 25+ years of her life in Vanraj and his family, and he will always be connected to her as the father of her children, the son of her adoptive parents, co-grandparents etc if not husband. She forgave every mistake of Vanraj whereas she could never connect with Anuj for the long term. On top of that, he might keep running away and re-appearing sporadically. Anuj is like a weekend trip or temporary high for her whereas Vanraj and family are the home/senses one comes back to.

An abuser who mentally and physically tortured someone and cheated on her, shouldn't be the home/senses someone comes back to. And the makers and actors should not be promoting such a mentality

In India there are many women who after escaping, went back with such mentality of past investment or for the sake of children to abusive in laws, and were killed