Differenr take on last 2 episodes

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Disclaimer: It is purely my perception and I am assured that I am the only one holding this opinion and no one here will agree with me so 😆 I actually thought not to make a post but then Aadat se Majboor *sigh* have to post else my mind will keep over working 😆
I am watching this show with different glasses hence different perception 😳 and I am that of person who evaluates things based on condition/situation. If a certain thing is wrong in one situation then its not necessary k its wrong in all situations, it can be right in some other situations


I absolutely loved last 2 episodes(told you 😆)...I know I am in minority like 1:99 %

Anyways, I loved like seriously loved and enjoyed last 2 episodes...they were brilliantly done⭐️ 👏

Lets start with Naina Singhania...this lady is just wow, the way she was talking to CM n giving fake praises of Manishinde 😆 *MEAN*
how easily she spoke and how calm she was and then she goes to meet Antara whose guilt is eating her up and I loved writers for showing this, she didn't played mean, humanity n heart inside her were tearing apart😔
She told everything to Prithvi and announced that she is going to accept her crime but Prithvi held her back...natural behavior of humans...I liked that he cared for Adi and he was being selfish about his career and he was correct on his stand...it takes years to build political career n one mistake to destroy it...he was just playing safe, he was not going to lie, he wanted to hide truth

Antara should not hv commit suicide(i hate such people) but her conscience was killing her every single second, she wanted to repent by surrendering but Prithvi closed that door, she could not have live a happy life n ended her life 😔
Prithvi let Naina know her secret is out but she have threatened him with consequences😲 but but Prithvi hid that chip...no mention of it so I guess he will use it in future

now spread of virus in PMO...Dr.Bhowmik...man u hv infected whole PMO and ur driver infected his daughter and now she will infect whole school 😭 😭 Devyani too infected 😲 lets see who will save whom..daughter will save pa n Beau or pa will save beti 😆
liked Dr Bhowmik intelligence...he immediately asked to check people who went out of lab last hour 👏 good job doc⭐️

Now Kiran...she was good...those dara dara and clueless expressions were bang on, she was so hesitant...had Jai not closed her mouth her secret wud hv been out 😆
I am happy that she was saved from infection 😊

Maddy...gosh is ladki ko Intelligence mai hona chahiye 😆 apne boss pe bhi doubt karti hai 🤣 she actually scanned Kiran's info *smarty* 😳 and her presence of mind saved Roshan yet again😆

I loved whole sequence n buiild up by Jai to capture Roshan ⭐️ the way they worked, the way they moved...it was superb 👏 all planning, who will cover where, what areas are to be covered was perfect(ofcourse until Saigal enter the picture 😆)


Jai smartly took the virus bottles from Roshan and how i wish kiran ka data thoda late process hota, jai ko dusre virus ke locations bhi pata chal jaate


Coming to Saigal, i read on dis forum that he behaved insanely n he was wrong but he was not
Saigal's vulnerability was building up from the tym he heard about Shibani's death...the inner turmoil was still going inside
If u ppl closely observed or noticed, initially he was disinterested but then his anger on Jai made him take charge n he started showing interest
And then again before Shibani's mom call he was carressing her pic , feeling that blood 😭 when he was alone his vulnerable side came to fore which he hid behind for his duty ,
He was awesome again...that convo with his MIL...the way he was fidgeting, that suffocation while speaking 👏 he could not gather courage to speak the truth

Then came Roshan's msg n turned his world upside down...his son was kidnapped by Roshan 😲
How Roshan did that? Go in flashback n u will remember that while moving towards Dockyard, Roshan gave 2 virus tubes to a man and asked him to do what was commanded n i guess that guy had 2-3 men wid him
This was the first tym that Roshan actually(in fact whole season ) had back up plan
Reasons for choosing/attacking saigal: he is ATU chief and he is still mourning wife's death...hit iron wen hot(its not difficult for Roshan to know who is Atu chief so)

Saigal first denied to give in and called him names but wen Roshan asked his men to send Kabir's eye to him he gave in...any man will give in
We humans are like that...if asked to sacrifice ourselves we dont hesitate but if family is at stake we will cross any line to sa e them(at least i will do)

Saigal never cared for kabir for 10 years but all of a sudden pyar jaag gaya? Yes all of a sudden...for last years he was sure that Shibani was taking care of Kabir nicely but know Shibani isn't alive and before dying she have given responsibility of Kabir to Saigal...he is already guilty, he is mourning, be realised importance of family after loosing wife...he know dont want to loose his son so UNWANTEDLY he gave in...he agreed, he is helping Roshan

Saigal gave wrong info to backyard team and it helped Roshan in escaping...Jai was super upset with saigal for giving orders
Saigal deleted whole data and our Antenna caught it but was lashed out by saigal

Next demand by Roshan is Vaidehi ...smart player he is

Jai's brain finally worked in right direction n he asked Veer about IB system n veer gave the lead...jai contacted Saigal but saigal left phone in basement 😆

ATU locked down but missed saigal by a minute...zara to the rescue again ...she spots saigal's car , gets hold of number n mihir traces it

Jai sends Vedant to shibani's home to check on her family as only reason saigal could help roshan was that only n bingo he was right
Jai catches Saigal in time n they hv planned further...saigal was reluctant initially but agreed
Thankfully its Jai who is calling shots...saigal is mentallly disturb n not in condition to take decisions...his mind is totally focussed on Kabir as of now 😊

I liked saigal-vaidehi convo...she was afraid that saigal will do her encounter as she is criminal's daughter and Saigal spills the beans..."wo mere bete ko maar dega jaise meri biwi ko maara" 💔
They hv changed location of meet so that team can come
👏 zara tricked maddy n gave wrong info and did a jig 😆

Roshan made a deal wid PM in exchange of virus 😲 and Adi agreed so as to make him sure he is safe n secure *smart move*

Now that vaidehi knows roshan hv killed her mom, i am hoping she will help ATU

My heart went out to Saigal 🥺 😭 and can I say Harsh nailed every damn scene ...the variety of acting he did...helpless, desperate, vulnerability, fear, every single thing


I loved last 2 episodes n thankfully no bloopers 😆
Waiting for finale n expecting it to be super fantastic 😳

Oh i forgot Maya-saigal scene...saigal is upset wid almoat everyone n he actuay tore maafinama 😲 and reason Maya ne info late di which costed his wife's life 😆
I absolutely loved his "meri biwi" jaap 😉 😳 I wonder how brilliant their story wud hv been they were divorced but their love was not...beautiful n intense dynamics 😳

P.s: I feel some tracks will be carried forward in season 3...lets see 😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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A well written perception of yours or analysis of last two epi's...
Well done naseem..

On reading the posts here and seeing saturday epi, I wuld say that the epis are combination of negatives and positives...while other posts emphasised on negatives, u hv emphasised on positives...

A good take indeed on hw you saw the epi...

S Naina's scene was worth watching.the way she praised shinde😆, she is a true politician in every sense...antara did sucide, oh her conscience killed her.. prithivi too struck within his limits...

And S jai handling roshan with kiran as vaidhehi and rounding up roshan, closing every corner of him was nice and thts the time we culd hv a seat and think tht finally atu had a upperhand and right path but again quite messed up but seems on sunday epi they r back on track...


If u see my reply on namru's post on brave mallick vs darpok saigal, u culd see tht i share the same feelings of urs on saigal being vulnerable, broken and his sudden actions to save kabir..
I do accept his vulnerability, nervousness, and i dont question his love for his son as newfound too, i can truly understands where it roots from...
He might had his love for son always but shibhani being in picture, tking care of kabir, leaving ur son with ur spouse wuld hv given him the strength and confidence to move forward..
But now she not being in picture, his guilt, conscience, love all erupted and now he is in this state...

So saying tht i truly understand his actions and state of mind,
I do excepted him to compose himself soon from tht threat, and looked for a way to backstab roshan by mking him believe saigal will bring vaidhehi...but in meantime, he saves kabir and caught roshan too..

I was not ok with he taking vaidhehi against atu with no one knwing it..
I wuld prefer him to put a solid plan ...i expect this with a saigal i know so far...
Tht one action of him was insensible to me, other than tht i understand his emotions and turmoil..

Saigal scene with maya was too good, i luved his rage...😳😆.. and i am loving is rage and sad emotion while he remember shibhani is no more and whenever he says meri biwi...

S harsh nailed those scenes and i think thts why you understood saigal's actions more and empathysised with him...😊

Then one more concern for me was with respect to saturday epi, all are infected, the scientist,pm,devyani and who not...it seems more and more life in danger...


But then as i said before, i am in the mindset of two more to go, just watch it😆

Even then ur post made me reply in detail😳😆

Edited by LuvSSever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Uma you watch Sunday's epi then you will understand Saigal's mind
He was constantly called by Roshan and Roshan kept forcing him threatening of consequences, saigal did not had the tym to think rationally and moreover he was aware that if data deleting comes to fore he will be arrested and he cannot move outside to save kabir...his mind was not in a condition to think and we cannot expect him to take coreect decision or plan something in that state
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I also understand saigal situation...but abt love of kabir I ve doubt...10yrs is not a small time...he never contacted them or asked them abt their well being... Yes shivani was there...but that is not an excuse...a special child needs both... And after meeting shivani he never asked her abt kabir...in fact he never saw their pics... And Mihir once told that their son is autistic . From there the problem started... And also whn shivani told abt kabir Ki uska kyayal nehin tha that time saigal did not meet eyes with her and pretended to be busy... So its looking like all of sudden... And also talking to shivani mom itsclear she is also not pleased with saigal...they r in dangerousjob in whichanything can happen..what if saigal was not part in that mission..what happened if something happened to shivani before..its sure saigalknows he is guilty.. So when shivaniasked abt their personal lifehe always tried to escape... May be it is saigal guilt which now he understands after loosing shivani... And abt kabir if it's shown that they are divorced from 2 or 3 yrs then it will be ok...but 10 yrs and achanak baapta...i have little doubt... May be after loosing shivani his love again appears and for this he can now understands the importance of family...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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as I said earlier yes this is could be as before also I found his action correct in save to Kabir as the moment of heat wanted him to do so but his sudden fatherly feeling little undigestable now coming to his love for Shivani yes he is holding back his emotions till now but now there is no bond to stop it... he understood the importance of family & he is just acting like normal human being if Mallick was on his place to save Kabir she also went in any way... just like him...
waise bhi I m just seeing the show for Sid's part only baki sab fast forward me dekhti hun & abt good presance mind of Jai I will say agar kuch ghanto pehle use kiya hota toh aaj Shivani Zinda hoti he is so clever in dockyard to catch Roshan uske yeh hosiyaari tab kaha thi when he assured everyone he won't let anything happen to her ab bada hero ban raha hai... I hate this theory of makers to show hero over confident helplees first then too clever for just last 4 epi when the actual dameages r done already nothing can justifie Jay's made up blusnders by anything they r just trying to cover up but it does really effect now on us... Jay turned out to be murderer no explanation could justifie this...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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@saigal's love: he didn't contacted for 10 years so that means he didnt loved n his love is questionable? We were not given insight into what happened in those ten years and it is left open for viewers to form their opinion with subtle hints. Who knows he was keeping tab on his family to know they are doing well. Who knows he kept himself fully informed about kabir...we dont know, that ends are left open so why not think positive

@jai's presence of mind: mallik's situation and this situation is different...in mallik's situation too they followed all the leads but they were misguided then

P.s i guess i can never explain that mallik's death was unfortunate and they were pushed to the core to execute it and they had no other OPTION atleast in my opinion

You guys urselves are contradicting...mallik ko nhi marna chahiye tha as she was ATU agent but they shld hv let virus spread but now wen saigal is thinking about kabir u ppl are saying he shld not give in to roshan demands by staking life of thousands
I am confused 🤔
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Sorry I don't understand this view...shivani ko marna tha Ki she is an agent...come on.. If Roshan wanted pm death they will go with that plan? Roshan already killed his wife and spread virus in hotel...how did over confident jay sure that he would catch him easily...they should make backup plans for this...6 months in a mission and didn't know abt Roshan family? Before homework, how could he start that mission.. Mallik death is shown like fool way.. No rail police at the station, no CCTV, its the basic of mission...only atu cops running here and there... Its looking like u r a soldier,so its ur duty to sacrifice... If it will happen to pm or minister then we make backup plans...in surgical strikes our soldiers made 7 backup plans to save the commandoes who attacked and here no backup plans...this death must be shown sensible way..
Abt kabir,its clear saigal never thought abt them...many clue r given...by shivani, by shivami mom, by jay, vedant,Mihir... And also by saigal action...first dayhe just put down kabir shivani pics and expression was I don't care...if he had feelings then at least he didn't do that...secondly he never met eyes with shivani when she ever talked abt kabir and pretended to be busy...there r many action by saigal where he showed that...kabir school,birthday he was not present anytime...i will sure kabir also didn't recognize him also...10yrs and with in 2 hrs so much fatherly love...i can't digest...it's more like guilt...now he can understand the importance of family but he never cared for it before...we got many clues abt that...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitrajayeeta23

Sorry I don't understand this view...shivani ko marna tha Ki she is an agent...come on.. If Roshan wanted pm death they will go with that plan? Roshan already killed his wife and spread virus in hotel...how did over confident jay sure that he would catch him easily...they should make backup plans for this...6 months in a mission and didn't know abt Roshan family? Before homework, how could he start that mission.. Mallik death is shown like fool way.. No rail police at the station, no CCTV, its the basic of mission...only atu cops running here and there... Its looking like u r a soldier,so its ur duty to sacrifice... If it will happen to pm or minister then we make backup plans...in surgical strikes our soldiers made 7 backup plans to save the commandoes who attacked and here no backup plans...this death must be shown sensible way..
Abt kabir,its clear saigal never thought abt them...many clue r given...by shivani, by shivami mom, by jay, vedant,Mihir... And also by saigal action...first dayhe just put down kabir shivani pics and expression was I don't care...if he had feelings then at least he didn't do that...secondly he never met eyes with shivani when she ever talked abt kabir and pretended to be busy...there r many action by saigal where he showed that...kabir school,birthday he was not present anytime...i will sure kabir also didn't recognize him also...10yrs and with in 2 hrs so much fatherly love...i can't digest...it's more like guilt...now he can understand the importance of family but he never cared for it before...we got many clues abt that...


Dear quite our viewpoints might differ in these two things..
I agree tht shibhan's death was a severe blow to us and i myself was disheartened just like saigal said to jai, u took her with such strong assurance and we thought one goes with u will be safe, but u hv done this... same thought came... i was angered at jai too...
But then, finally we could say atlast that it unfortunate thts it..

Meanwhile tking shibhani to roshan, they tried tracing virus, they tried tracing roshan and get him arrested but alas all failed... but one goofing up of atu there is, even if it all fails, what bckplan they shuld go for, they didnt had that...
But roshan was clever enough to put them at that spot and ask him to shoot at forehead,..

So finally jai and shibhani gaveup thinking its the last option...
Its unfortunate..
And we cant question the same for pm and all...though we accept or not, we ourselves know the standards of importance and security for a soldier and pm or any politician differs...


Then coming to saigal, s all guns pointed at him for being far away frm family..for leaving shibhani and kabir.. in the scenes shown before..,
But we ourselves dont knw wht their past...
Wht if he left the family just bcoz of his ego and hatred towards shibhani alone..what if they being at loggerheads alone be the reason for their splitup,..
Or else do we know wht transformations he might had in these years...

The scenes also showed they still affect each other...thts evident it is
And he still had inner feelings and thts y he doesnt want to carried away by his inner emotions, so he avoided photo and her talks.. it can be taken this way too...

See, if ur ego comes in place, inner emotions took a backplace, shibhani and sid interactions were as such only, miya biwi ke saath yesha hi hoga if they met after long time and hv such a past..

But whts their inner emotions we might not know...

Now tht shibhani not there, saigal's luv for his son is understandeable...
For saigal too it wuld had been a severe blow, see hw much ever diff opinions u hv and parted ways, u wuldnt wish death for them, and if such unfortunate thing happens, ur memories and past love does blowup...
Be it the guilt, conscience or the inner love tht buried inside, all will mk you vulnerable.,.

And her final request to him of tking care kabir and tht video of hers is more than enough to broke him into pieces...

So when she is there , saigal might hv hold to some past events and so maintained his distance or his fights, but when she is no more, then equations does change...
Edited by LuvSSever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Naseem its not like that I don't have any problme with her death kyunki iss job me kabhi bhi kuch bhi ho sakta hai I just have problme with the way she died... I mean Jai had enough time of 6 months even Maya was trusting him blisndly why didn't he made back up plan that time why he was so sure he will catch Haroon & Roshan with Virus i mean asie missions me kuch bhi ho sakta hai what if he died or caught or Roshan ya Hoorn will escaped with virus why he didn't he thought time & made back up plan for this if he tries to know abt his past in thouse 6 months they have could easily traced Vidhahi or Anjali that time if he died by mistake did he thought what will will ATU do next... n the way they have showed him so far preplaaned for everything expect some situation it goes wrong to his charectrization... I mean u showed him over confidance with his plan with 6 moths with no back up plan goes completly opposite to his chareactrization... I mean showing whole Best ATU offocer with Intaligance buaro head along with one honest & inteligant PM could they saved their own officer with back up plan put them in question to what abt normal ppl???? I guess this was the follish track they have showed such way agar Mallick Roshan ya uske admiyn k haaton marti I would have been more happy k she hads becomed Shaeed but aise she was just killed to terririsot demand... which is making unrespectful to Army & Jay hilself assured everyone nor he would let happen anything to Mallick nor virus will releasd if he really had no full proof back up plan heshould not to do that... even Saigal Mallick & Kabir Story was also coocked up by writer isse aacha they had stuck to original story only which was far far batter then this one...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Answer my questions and i will accept you are right

1) jai ne usi waqt agar roshan ko mana kiya hota toh roshan usi waqt virus release karta. What option did Jai n ATU had?

2) Jai should not hv shooted Mallik okay. What other option did jai had? Jai should hv made back up plan but what he could hv done. Had u been in hos place what wud u hv done? Cos not shooting mallik wud hv meant killing thousands of commoners


I hv asked this thrice ...asking for last time...pls pray tell me what other options they had? I hv thought zillion times but could not figure out other alternative ...would be thankful to know other alternatives

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