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Posted: 8 years ago
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Leena how on earth jai wud hv known k Roshan will put forward such a demand.
Everything do not go as per plan, situations, circumstances n luck plays their part...kitni bhi planning karlo koi guarantee nhi hoti k plan successful hoga
Their plan was perfect...nab virus gang, sherchan brothers n virus tubes and they did accordingly
They caught hold of virus guy, got virus tubes n killed haroon
It was sheer bad luck that Roshan bach gaya and usey ek virus tube mil gayi...unhe kya pata tha k roshan bach jayega aur ek virus tube lejayega?
Us ke baad jo hua it was all circumstantial
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LuvSSever


Dear quite our viewpoints might differ in these two things..
I agree tht shibhan's death was a severe blow to us and i myself was disheartened just like saigal said to jai, u took her with such strong assurance and we thought one goes with u will be safe, but u hv done this... same thought came... i was angered at jai too...
But then, finally we could say atlast that it unfortunate thts it..

Meanwhile tking shibhani to roshan, they tried tracing virus, they tried tracing roshan and get him arrested but alas all failed... but one goofing up of atu there is, even if it all fails, what bckplan they shuld go for, they didnt had that...
But roshan was clever enough to put them at that spot and ask him to shoot at forehead,..

So finally jai and shubhani gaveup thinking its the last option...
Its unfortunate..
And we cant question the same for pm and all...though we accept or not, we ourselves know the standards of importance and security for a soldier and pm or any politician differs...


Then coming to saigal, s all guns pointed at him for being far away frm family..for leaving shibhani and kabir.. in the scenes shown before..,
But we ourselves dont knw wht their past...
Wht if he left the family just bcoz of his ego and hatred towards shibhani alone..what if they being at loggerheads alone be the reason for their splitup,..
Or else do we know wht transformations he might had in these years...

The scenes also showed they still affect each other...thts evident it is
And he still had inner feelings and thts y he doesnt want to carried away by his inner emotions, so he avided photo and her talks..

See, if ur ego comes in place, inner emotions took a backphase, shibhani and sid interactions were as such only, miya biwi ke saath yesha hi hoga if they met after long time and hv such a past..

But whts their inner emotions we might not know...

Now tht shibhani not there, saigal's luv for his son is understandeable...


U cant call shivani death unfortunate...its a failure of atu...u a
Assured every one that nothing will happen and all of sudden every thing failed... U know the location, prepare delta team, fake death anything can be done... They can trace virus much before..come on its 4am and station has police, CCTV etc...why atu cops t running like that...in war every army respect another so much...they protect their team mates by giving their lives... We ve many examples in kargil wars...here jay did not do anything...sorry anything...he should know about Roshan family and his past clearly...then should start the mission...if he found them then this would not happen...jay is looking like fools come murderer...it was better if they stick to that original... Shivani death could be seen in different ways...looking like 2 officer are in defeating side andalso atu and only Roshan in winning side.. They can show fight and mallik dead .. It will more convincing... Jay now showing intelligent as 2 more episodes left and hero should win..but his defeat is already done... Thus we r seeing how terrorism wins..
Sid case...look we got many clues abt his don't care attitude... May be he is guilty now.. Now looking like guilt overpowering fatherly love...at least they would show his love by seeing kabir pic.. But nothing. Happened...now this love looking all of sudden...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: peeyara

Uma you watch Sunday's epi then you will understand Saigal's mind
He was constantly called by Roshan and Roshan kept forcing him threatening of consequences, saigal did not had the tym to think rationally and moreover he was aware that if data deleting comes to fore he will be arrested and he cannot move outside to save kabir...his mind was not in a condition to think and we cannot expect him to take coreect decision or plan something in that state


Ya..i am yet to see sunday's epi Naseem..hv to see it...
S a normal being threatened and left with struck mind is fine but being atu chief i expected more..
But i know a vulnerable father may not be in a state to think rationally, but s as done in tht sunday epi, atleast if saigal confided in anyone, just like jai took the lead now, someone wuld hv helped saigal...
Tht tking atu or anyone in atu into confidence, wuld hv helped saigal ,since they view at tht situation different
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LuvSSever



Ya..i am yet to see sunday's epi Naseem..hv to see it...
S a normal being threatened and left with struck mind is fine but being atu chief i expected more..
But i know a vulnerable father may not be in a state to think rationally, but s as done in tht sunday epi, atleast if saigal confided in anyone, just like jai took the lead now, someone wuld hv helped saigal...
Tht tking atu or anyone in atu into confidence, wuld hv helped saigal ,since they view at tht situation different


He shld hv confide i agree but was there anyone whom he could hv trusted? I guess no...he dont share gud relation with any of them and to confide with such delicate issue u need someone whom u can trust completely n saigal didn't hv that confidant
Also after of data, roshan gave saigal just 15 mins to bring vaidehi and initially saigal said he wont do but kabir's dhamki ...15 mins mai sahi decision lena aur kisi pe bharosa karna is big deal 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Jay and pm can try to negotiate with the terrorists...ok...giving offers to terrorist is a part of intelligence...i m Again telling you that because I m from army family and my father did that job..no law permit this demand..ok..its only because to buy time.. They can do this to find virus...terrorist also wants better offer...u can't understand it if u don't know the technical point...suppose in Mumbai attack...ok...if terrorist wanted our president death instead of killing people of Taj, did we agree? No... Because it will be defeat of nation...
He should know about Roshan clearly before starting the mission..if he knew abt Roshan family, this will backfooted Roshan...so much big mission,only. One person can't do it...be realistic..police should be involved because it would make busy Roshan and make delay to exicute plans..
They can show many ways to save shivani.. It's looking like atu and government fools..they can't handle a terrorist...when u r going to a mission u should be clear abt every thing...maya believed jay blindly...that time he could get information...but this death is looking like absurd,foolish...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: peeyara


He shld hv confide i agree but was there anyone whom he could hv trusted? I guess no...he dont share gud relation with any of them and to confide with such delicate issue u need someone whom u can trust completely n saigal didn't hv that confidant
Also after of data, roshan gave saigal just 15 mins to bring vaidehi and initially saigal said he wont do but kabir's dhamki ...15 mins mai sahi decision lena aur kisi pe bharosa karna is big deal 😆


These two things @ bold...haan i accept yeh bhi sochna padega, knowing his relation with atu people😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitrajayeeta23

Jay and pm can try to negotiate with the terrorists...ok...giving offers to terrorist is a part of intelligence...i m Again telling you that because I m from army family and my father did that job..no law permit this demand..ok..its only because to buy time.. They can do this to find virus...terrorist also wants better offer...u can't understand it if u don't know the technical point...suppose in Mumbai attack...ok...if terrorist wanted our president death instead of killing people of Taj, did we agree? No... Because it will be defeat of nation...
He should know about Roshan clearly before starting the mission..if he knew abt Roshan family, this will backfooted Roshan...so much big mission,only. One person can't do it...be realistic..police should be involved because it would make busy Roshan and make delay to exicute plans..
They can show many ways to save shivani.. It's looking like atu and government fools..they can't handle a terrorist...when u r going to a mission u should be clear abt every thing...maya believed jay blindly...that time he could get information...but this death is looking like absurd,foolish...


There plan was to nab all of dem together n they did planned it n did it acvordingly
But as fate had it Roshan bach gaya wid one virus tube...unhone yeh nhi socha tha k lets imagine roshan bach jaata hai wid one virus tube toh uske liye yeh plan karte hai
They were confident k plan successful hoga n hua bhi but roshan bach gaya...uske bachne ke baad hi usey nab karne ka plan banayenge na?

Acc to u they cud hv done mane things so tell me atleast one thing from many things 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LuvSSever



These two things @ bold...haan i accept yeh bhi sochna padega, knowing his relation with atu people😆


Had he been in IB office instead of ATU office, he wud hv deffo confided but ATU mai toh sab dislike him for divorcing their lovely ATU chief mallik 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitrajayeeta23


U cant call shivani death unfortunate...its a failure of atu...u a
Assured every one that nothing will happen and all of sudden every thing failed... U know the location, prepare delta team, fake death anything can be done... They can trace virus much before..come on its 4am and station has police, CCTV etc...why atu cops t running like that...in war every army respect another so much...they protect their team mates by giving their lives... We ve many examples in kargil wars...here jay did not do anything...sorry anything...he should know about Roshan family and his past clearly...then should start the mission...if he found them then this would not happen...jay is looking like fools come murderer...it was better if they stick to that original... Shivani death could be seen in different ways...looking like 2 officer are in defeating side andalso atu and only Roshan in winning side.. They can show fight and mallik dead .. It will more convincing... Jay now showing intelligent as 2 more episodes left and hero should win..but his defeat is already done... Thus we r seeing how terrorism wins..
Sid case...look we got many clues abt his don't care attitude... May be he is guilty now.. Now looking like guilt overpowering fatherly love...at least they would show his love by seeing kabir pic.. But nothing. Happened...now this love looking all of sudden...


Dear, s Atu failed there, their mission failed at that instant, but thts wht i am telling, its unfortunate their plans failed, they tried to capture Roshan before they go to that altar to shoot shibhani...
But all their plans failed...

Hw to trace virus much before and stop it, roshan had a view of tht place with help of cameras, he said if anyone goes near, then he will press the remote and release virus, for him its just one press, atu had much to do...
U know only after revealing the location of virus, shibhani went ahead with her death, even after knowing location, atu culdnt do anything, since everything was under roshan ctrl, one press of him, thousands of life in danger...

S each one wuld respect their colleague, protecting team mates first is wht their mentality,but instead of shooting at mallick which was roshan's demand, if jai shoots himself will tht be the end, will tht solve all,will not roshan still expects mallick death, since he doesnt want them to know abt his daughter...

Knowing abt roshan past, s they culd hv done a better study, it wuld had been better, but for the plan which jai had, getting hold of virus and killing shrechan bros...he had done study and he was quite successful at it but roshan escaped with virus which was not expected..

See, even if u hv a full proof plan, there r chances of goofing up on real circumstances...

This was a downfall for atu when roshan escaped..

I do accept their loopholes and incompetency at times, but those two circumstances, shibhani death and saigal viwepoint still i differ...


About sid, where did we get a dont care attitude of him, did he showed dont care situation for kabir being unwell or unsafe, such a situation was not shown...
he just kept on avoiding the encounter of his past as far as i see it...
Oh comeon those fights between ex's is inevitable though their inner emotions differs...
I felt innerly they had diff emotions..

And now his turmoil i culd surely understand...conflicts and fight do happen, even if we carry hatred or anger for the ones whom we luved once for a long time, when they r in danger or takleef ur inner chords definitely get striked...

Edited by LuvSSever - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Naseem...it is called the backup plans...if they failed to catch them together what will happen, if they escaped what happened, if jay was caught what happened... Only one person can't execute this... It's a war against nation..so all departments should be involved...
Abt saving mallik r they try to save her ??? No .. In reality government care for their soldier who r in. Mission something like that.. If they know about the Roshan weak point I'll not happen... If they give Roshan better offer instead of mallik life it will not. Happen...if jay prepared for fake death this will not happen...now u tell abt Roshan men taking her body...if delta team members were ready and caught those people who took the body and real delta members took the body it will not happen.. Their face was covered...jay already knew that place...they can do it..
There are many more technical point to solve this situation...if u want to know abt other options u must consult an army oe intelligence officer because they can make you understand better...
It is not a so difficult situation...they r trained to cop up more difficult situation...
Once Pak demanded Sachin instead of Kashmir...did our government obey that orders...no...its a defeat of a nation dear.. Plz understand...my father also that time in intelligence...now he is retired... I know that situation very well...it's happen when I was in class 7...if always this happens then anything anytime will happen.. They will capture a hotel and demand pm death, president death every time instead of common people.. It should not show this way because in reality it will not happen..
No army or government will agree with it... Roshan saw station by cameras...how?? Who fitted them ..it will take time..no police was there..no CCTV was there...when there is a. Threat they should cordon public places, how easily they can fit virus and cameras... There are so loopholes... But this death should be seen responsible ways because it really hurts the family of soldiers...and not only me, our friends who r from army family have same opinions...
Edited by mitrajayeeta23 - 8 years ago

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