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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: peeyara


Had he been in IB office instead of ATU office, he wud hv deffo confided but ATU mai toh sab dislike him for divorcing their lovely ATU chief mallik 😆


culdnt agree more 👍🏼😆

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitrajayeeta23

Naseem...it is called the backup plans...if they failed to catch them together what will happen, if they escaped what happened, if jay was caught what happened... Only one person can't execute this... It's a war against nation..so all departments should be involved...
Abt saving mallik r they try to save her ??? No .. In reality government care for their soldier who r in. Mission something like that.. If they know about the Roshan weak point I'll not happen... If they give Roshan better offer instead of mallik life it will not. Happen...if jay prepared for fake death this will not happen...now u tell abt Roshan men taking her body...if delta team members were ready and caught those people who took the body and real delta members took the body it will not happen.. Their face was covered...jay already knew that place...they can do it..
There are many more technical point to solve this situation...if u want to know abt other options u must consult an army oe intelligence officer because they can make you understand better...
It is not a so difficult situation...they r trained to cop up more difficult situation...
Once Pak demanded Sachin instead of Kashmir...did our government obey that orders...no...its a defeat of a nation dear.. Plz understand...


Sabse pehle toh its FICTIONAL
What offer they should hv given Roshan? Roshan ki ek hi demand thi mallik ki maut...kisi kuch chahiye hi nhi toh zabardasti doge kya 😕
I dont hv any army person around so cant ask isiliye aapko pucha

P.s if pak ne kaha hota k sachin hame do warna deadly virus release karenge toh sachin khud pak chala jaata to save millions of Indians 😳
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Posted: 8 years ago
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No, that's not possible dear... Sachin will not leave his nation...now I m telling u do u know it is that time before kargil war...
They didn't show any negotiation... Ok ...if they offer they can help Roshan to escape, it will be better option to Roshan instead of mallik death... If they knew abt his family it can be used against Roshan ...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Arey baba situation pe depend karta hai...aap jo bol rahe hai ho wo reality hai aur wahan koi virus ka khatra nhi tha...it was war but show mai they are show biological war
And both wars cant be treated same way...us war it was all about army but biological war aisa nhi hai...is war mai commmoners are at stake and first priority will be given to them

The thing is u want realistic treatment to it and u are thinking wid emotional pov whereas I am treating it as a mere fictional drama where creative liberties can be taking and I am being logical n practical on basis of current situation
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I know its a fictional but it is a sensible issue...u cant promte it this way...because many people see this...now what if Pak threat us with virus and demand modi death... Is it go with the same way?? No... Waise bhi in this series mallik death this way is unnecessary because they are not able to stop it from spreading...but as technical point vasu fitting the virus in station also illogical... And what now? Roshan has 2 more tubes.. If now he wants other death will it also happen...if he will demand escaping the country gov will agree? No...so why in that case they didn't think...my problem is jay is looking like a murderer... Now what ever he will do, it can't be forgotten that he killed his colleagues for the name of his mission... No one agree to work under him and also law will punish him...so much negativity is there against jay...i can't digest this track yaar...know it's a series and all but phir bhi...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitrajayeeta23

I know its a fictional but it is a sensible issue...u cant promte it this way...because many people see this...now what if Pak threat us with virus and demand modi death... Is it go with the same way?? No... Waise bhi in this series mallik death this way is unnecessary because they are not able to stop it from spreading...but as technical point vasu fitting the virus in station also illogical... And what now? Roshan has 2 more tubes.. If now he wants other death will it also happen...if he will demand escaping the country gov will agree? No...so why in that case they didn't think...my problem is jay is looking like a murderer... Now what ever he will do, it can't be forgotten that he killed his colleagues for the name of his mission... No one agree to work under him and also law will punish him...so much negativity is there against jay...i can't digest this track yaar...know it's a series and all but phir bhi...


I guess aap pehla thriller show dekh rahe ho...they are not promoting it...they are showing it as entertainment with disclaimer saying its fictional n nothing resembles in reality
Vasu has just fitted the box given to him n on the timer same likes bombs are fitted so he dont need to hv tevhnical knowledge...his criminal career shows his experience
Roshan dont hv virus tubes now with him...not a single one
Jai has not killed his friend happily...circumstances made him do...he should hv let virus spread n save his friend like seriously?
You are either giving past examples or asking me to imagine if so n so happens wat they will do...they will do what will be best in that situation
Speak about jo hua...present and put forward ur points instead of past n future examples
No amount of planning will help...situations n circumstances decides what will happen
You are stuck at one point n not thinking broadly

Anyways, i guess I rest my case...you are not ready to try to think different n neither giving me valid logical reasons to think like you
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: mitrajayeeta23

I know its a fictional but it is a sensible issue...u cant promte it this way...because many people see this...now what if Pak threat us with virus and demand modi death... Is it go with the same way?? No... Waise bhi in this series mallik death this way is unnecessary because they are not able to stop it from spreading...but as technical point vasu fitting the virus in station also illogical... And what now? Roshan has 2 more tubes.. If now he wants other death will it also happen...if he will demand escaping the country gov will agree? No...so why in that case they didn't think...my problem is jay is looking like a murderer... Now what ever he will do, it can't be forgotten that he killed his colleagues for the name of his mission... No one agree to work under him and also law will punish him...so much negativity is there against jay...i can't digest this track yaar...know it's a series and all but phir bhi...



Dear, its a fictional one, as far as i saw , may be the films or the shows i saw, so far they have shown just like this, when a terriorist demands they try to get time by saying they r considering their demands, process of their demands execution is on and behind trying for a plan to strike bck those terriorists..
And in the midst of process either some innocents or soliders life are at stake or they die and finally mission acomplishing with loss on armed forces side too...
It means tht all r showing same without any study into it...hw somewhat it goes in real...


I am curious to know, hw in real, or realistic this situation culd be handled, a bilogical threat without helplessly giving in to demands at tht time...

S giving into a terriorist demand is not right in anyway...wht if tht cruelist ask for someone larger next, but in real if its a question of 1 with thousands of life, due u still think, they will not opt that one when they r helpless and no other go...

For example in real, if its not aam janta ,where negogiating comes as last step, if its pm or president, dont u think, their demands will be heard at first... though striking them bck will happen, at one instance when no options left, then they wont go with one soldier's life for pm or president...

I highly doubt... that they wont opt for it...1 vs thousands...
So anyone providing real insight into it i appreciate..

Bcoz as a aam jaanta, i dont know wht goes in ...in real time or to be realistic...

And how full proof plan or protection it is, we do see mishaps happening in country now and then...
Due to some cruel no heart minds...
So however the protection might be, it does fails at times bcoz, even they r human, prone to error...their plan of protection fails and terrorists get their things done...

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Posted: 8 years ago
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If I am not able to understand u and if ur mind is set then it better to end this topic.. I m showing reality...vasu put the box...how.. Is there no police or CCTV...atu is running here and there...where is the police?? They didn't increase security to public place after hotel incident / whole nation is in high alert if something like this happen... They did right? No they didn't... A soldier is in the field just to give his life...for our shake?? Gov has duty to protect them...i m telling jay personally took those decision...not asked anyone...so it's his duty to make backup plans...backup plans r made in this ways if they will not successful in mission.. So why jay confident he would find the tubes... He even took pm in confidence .. What is that... He is shown as top officials and now making fun of intelligence...
Better u discuss with army or intelligence officer abt this situation...because all options can't be written publicly as they are confidential... But in our family father told me at least 3-4 ways by which they can avoid the situation...and for sure if they really showed that then u also supported them...but this way they are making fool of our intelligence...
Sorry if I hurt u but u should know the technical point of intelligence before writing this or better say support this..
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Posted: 8 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: peeyara

Leena how on earth jai wud hv known k Roshan will put forward such a demand.
Everything do not go as per plan, situations, circumstances n luck plays their part...kitni bhi planning karlo koi guarantee nhi hoti k plan successful hoga
Their plan was perfect...nab virus gang, sherchan brothers n virus tubes and they did accordingly
They caught hold of virus guy, got virus tubes n killed haroon
It was sheer bad luck that Roshan bach gaya and usey ek virus tube mil gayi...unhe kya pata tha k roshan bach jayega aur ek virus tube lejayega?
Us ke baad jo hua it was all circumstantial


are yaar meri maa I m not saying he will suddenly got a dream k aisa kuch ho jayega but he very well knew k iss mission me risk hai kabhi bhi kuch bhi ho sakta hai even he was got caught by Roshan once with Maya & Maya knew he is with ATU she also could told it to Haroon & that time also we seen fear on his face so at least even Roshan tried to kill him in truck aur woh missal wala atteck bhool gaye kya agar Jay ka tracker sahi smay par chalu nahi hota he could have dies phir ATU virus dealer ko kaise pakadti... but every time by luck or his presence of mind he got saved than he could make back up plan to save this mission or ATU can i just cant understand why they just show its depended on one person only aise hai toh baki k characters ko laye hi kyun Jai hi akele sab se nipat leta aur nation ko bhi bacha leta... i agree sab kuch plan k hisaab se nahi chalata everytime anyone could face any situation but after buying time what difference Jay had did its all becoz of Mallick<s lead they find out abt Veidhahi he found nothing expect virus location do he made any plan anything else... i kitni bhi planning kar lo jo hona hai woh hokar rahega but here Jay even didnt try to save her bas sabko assure karta raha nothing will happen to her... agree their plan was good & they succeed in some part too but dear Backup plans r made for some unusual situations which u sure its not going to happen if they had made back up plan together taking every intelligence team in confidence they could have made more backup plans to catch Roshan.. aur ek baat Roshan was keeping eye on stations with CCTV footage even zara break once that wall.. aur woh CCTV government ki hai they could have create any loopholes to divert Roshan's by faking some other image by making some loopholes in footage so ATU agents could have removed tubes till then.. they had know exact location of virus & after that Mallick was killed 10 to 15 min latter I know its risky but they could have tried...
aur rahi baat back up plan ki toh i feel they could have made like this jay knew the place 20 minutes before Mallick dies so he could have arranges around there to make fake death part by killing Roshan's man & taking away alive Mallick i know it was rishky but he should have tried once... zara is shown so clever didn't he find out that they r connected to CCTV footage????
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Totally agree with you Leena...in fiction show it must be shown like this...because as an army family I soo much disheartened to see that... Looking like murder seriously?? Wish they showed this death another way by fighting Roshan men or saving kabir or another...but this is not acceptable... Our friends who r also in army gave galiyan after seeing that... Only one man's mission is this?? Is it a joke?? This type of incident really disappointing soldiers... Come on show their sacrifice... One vs thousands life situations kaise payda Ho Gaya... If they negotiate with Roshan to help him escaping the country just to buy time or something else then Roshan must be ready for that... And after mallik death what if Roshan still released the virus?? Roshan also told may be he can do it...so what was the guarantee... Aise hi maar do because we didn't make backup plans... It's not looking like sacrifice or saving other...it's just showing foolishness...

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