Heres what i think Abhi should do next... - Page 4

Originally posted by: N.i.s.a

remember the tent pegged in the graden for three days?

I didnt get this.......

Okay folks hold your horses! Really, I'm not suggesting that he actually fantasises over his mum... it's an unconscious thing ... more of "id" than "ego" ...

i wudnt really call it amnesia unless of course she verbalizes her support for naa-kool

she loves her elder sister, has watched her being rejected numerous times and sees the melodrama that follows each round of rejection. then along come these ppl who find simi delightful.......... c'mon give the girl a break

i saw some posts abt simi smiling too n again mebbe she was just being polite. what wud u have her do?? run from there shouting nahiiiiiiiin ??

Originally posted by: SValeCalGal

Both Jung and Freud are anachronisms'

O K!' and while we're at it lets throw Shakespeare and Marx ino the mix!

the vast preponderance of their theories debunked

wrong again' they're a pervasive and rampant part of our daily lives (especially in the western world) eg. the Freudean slip and the tip of the iceberg. Don't get me wrong, I am no Freudean (refer to my disclaimers in the initial post) yet Im not too chuffed to see the dismissal of a major influence in the field with such disdain, in true American fashion, might I add! 😉

'psychology' (what kind one need ask these days)

The human kind ofcourse' yes there are types, we could say developmental in our case, but why should we need to' surely the whole is greater than the sum of is parts!

is now heavily dependent on nueroscience for an understanding of what happens on the conscious and unconscious level

did u say concious and unconcious' I thought you were saying saying Freud (and Jung) were obsolete!

(there is a whole lot of on-going research on the 'neural correlates of consciousness' and related issues

on-going being the operative word here'and thus inconclusive!

ego and id are nonsensical concepts

Absolutely not!

I don't mean to sound harsh . .

No worries' im not of the kind to take neutral events as harsh reflections on my personal worth! 😃

I think I can safely say that there's a possibility our Abhi didn't get much daddy-love at an earlier age? This premise is no longer entertained as a possibility . . .

Really? And why is that? they fell out at age 12 (that is abt grade 7 time right?) and up until then they were chums?

'Much older'?! Considering that these kinds of things are cultural artifacts of the worst kind . . .

Yes, cultural artifacts ' but we're not talking generality are we Gal? we have at hand a very specific example set firmly within well-known cultural restraints and norms'

some cultures prefer that women be older . . .

again we have a specific instance at hand so why stray!

while I won't resurrect the debate on Simi's 'looks' I believe that what I expostulated in another thread about this has merit . . .

Im grateful for that ' you're allowed your bit of subjecivity! 😊

May I just add that, an hour glass figure in the female form is considered attractive to males across all cultures 'theres plenty of conclusive research to support that!

I'm sure this is propagated to titillate . . .

Males of our species (and vastly around the animal kingdom) are visually oriented' that is a fact! Signals that go to the brain to produce the endorphins invaraibly come from the eyes and the nose'

hopefully our Simi does not smell of manjuji's tael(oil) anymore! 😊

no basis in biology vis-a-vis age and attraction . . . none . . . zip . . . zilch . . . zero . . .

again, based on my understanding of biology, there is no correlation between age and attraction . . .

Ahh' biology is superlative!!' something tangible and easily investigated! '

across the animal kingdom the search for a mate is simplistic ' the males battle it out for the most fertile(attractive) female, lead by the supreme instinct of procreation! youth especially in females is a sign of fertility and the ability to reproduce'

The female chooses the best father for his genes and ability to safeguard her offspring'(oops is this heading Nakul's way!)

brains remain disconnected and unmyelinated until one is in their 20's hence not fully functional

huh??? Not fully functional? so anyone under the age of twenty-something (what about our Abhi then? He knows what he's doing at 22 ... right??) doesn' know what love is?

And I was convinced I was in true love at age 17!! Now yo tell me! Darn!

So, while 'older women' may be a leitmotif in Abhi's life . . . it's a perfectly acceptable state of affairs,

for once we agree this morning! ... man i need that cuppa now!

completely consistent with what we know of human (and other animal) behavior . . .

hmmm...maybe i spoke too soon! 😃

Originally posted by: bewajah

we are analyzing the reasons that abhi fell for simi, would we be doing the same if the roles were reversed?? what if mili gets involved with a guy around dads age( considerably more age diff than abhi-simi i know but then again 8yrs isnt considered much in india if its the guy who is older). personally i wud b creeped out by it but wud we still be analyzing it??

Originally posted by: belledejour

I think you were just trying to see he's into older women right and not necessarily is mother or someone like his mother? 😉 And the reason is?? We are reading a lot of Freudian explanation that he might have had some experience between the age of 3-5 when he was drawn towards his mother and that perhaps Simi represents that image? And all this happened in his unconsciousness??😕

Originally posted by: belledejour

you bet we would!! ... and while we're at it... why don't we analyse how Mr Sethi has managed to raise a spineless fool like Anuj... where did the genes go Gal? what happened to the DNA! something to do with upbringing perhaps and and not just biology!

look what u did belle, u actually made me think and read and that too abt stuff that had nothing to do with dora and diego or hannah montana ............ thanks 😊
the closest i had come to reading abt freud had been a book i read a couple of yrs bak "the interpretation of murder"
in the case of anuj, dna vs upbringing is an interesting argument but considering that he shares both with his sibs, then i guess that his personality was determined by his reaction to both nature and nurture.