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Posted: 11 years ago
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hey just wanted to find out has anyone read the novel Zindai Gulzar Hai by Umera Ahmad...I have read the roman transcription available on line but it does not have the entire novel...it has till the library clash part...and how far I have read it, is very different from the show...
And I read a review of the novel where some criticized the book by saying that more than a love story it is a book which shows chauvinistic, hypocritical man's dominance and the so called fighter turning to be a damsel...and some praised it by saying how this novel canvas has no boundaries. It does not have that preachy element in it. It does not try to authenticate a point but say life can be like heaven only if you want it to be. You can derive any lesson from it. Everything is destined to meet you. You just have to let it come to you.

I want to know is the novel just a romance or is it much beyond that...And how far is the novel different from the series- particularly zaroon and kashaf...

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Posted: 11 years ago
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I didn't read Zindegi Gulzar hain but i read Umerah Ahmaed an other novel Phir-e-kammal. One ov da best novel i have ever read in life.It's a story abt a rich girl who left every thing for sake of Allah.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I too have read the translation which i found on the net. It isn't complete but tbh i just found the whole thing extremely dull...dunno maybe the essence of the language was lost in translation? Or maybe because i already had a fixed image of how zashaf should be and they weren't anything like that?

For the first time i found a tv adaptation better than the book, and not because of the actors but because of the direction and execution. Like in the novel Zaroon actually slaps kashaf and i agree with the director that a woman like kashaf will never marry a man who had slapped her, so she changed it. In another scene i remember Zaroon calling kashaf and saying i am sending my parents over with a marriage proposal and the conversation that followed between them was more like a threat than anything about love which is so different, and in a good way in the show. Also, if i remember it correctly kashaf's sisters are total losers in the book unlike the show where they are so sensible.


I will admit if the show had followed the book closely i would never have loved zashaf or zgh the way i do today. So a big thank u to the director for putting in some fab changes and making them relevant to today's times and youth and adding a little positivity to the story rather than making the couple depend on sheer dumb luck alone.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I've been searching for the english transcripts. A little help anyone?
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Originally posted by: The.Patthaaka.

I've been searching for the english transcripts. A little help anyone?



A girl was translating here on IF Pakistani TV Serials Forum but she has stopped half way




and another one in roman urdu which I found on the net & read a little bit from







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Originally posted by: The.Lannister

I too have read the translation which i found on the net. It isn't complete but tbh i just found the whole thing extremely dull...dunno maybe the essence of the language was lost in translation? Or maybe because i already had a fixed image of how zashaf should be and they weren't anything like that?

For the first time i found a tv adaptation better than the book, and not because of the actors but because of the direction and execution. Like in the novel Zaroon actually slaps kashaf and i agree with the director that a woman like kashaf will never marry a man who had slapped her, so she changed it. In another scene i remember Zaroon calling kashaf and saying i am sending my parents over with a marriage proposal and the conversation that followed between them was more like a threat than anything about love which is so different, and in a good way in the show. Also, if i remember it correctly kashaf's sisters are total losers in the book unlike the show where they are so sensible.


I will admit if the show had followed the book closely i would never have loved zashaf or zgh the way i do today. So a big thank u to the director for putting in some fab changes and making them relevant to today's times and youth and adding a little positivity to the story rather than making the couple depend on sheer dumb luck alone.


I agree with you...infact i don't know how would it be like in original but the transcription made the story very dragging, infact the series is also a bit dragging at parts, but yeah for the first time did I like the adaptaion more than the real work...may be because I couldn't read the whole thing and in its original language...

I don't know whether I should base by regards about the book on the reviews that are available...but I can't help it as I can't read the book...

In one of the review the critic mentioned this traumatic episode between kashaaf and zaroon...something the series avoid is this that..

"Kashaaf like any other human being, has some likes and dislikes. What she wears is naturally one of them. However, Zaroon wants to change that. He wants her to live the way he wants her to live! And so what does he do? He tells her once, he tells her twice, he tells her thrice and then he loses it. Just because he does not like the colour of her sarri and she wants to wear it to a dinner, he actually psychologically assaults her! He expects her to listen, but when she doesn't, instead of understanding that she wants to dress the way she wants to dress, he imposes his will on her by physically dragging her to the sink, grabbing her sarri and, literally burning it in front of her eyes! He tells her to wear something else and get ready in 15 mins, otherwise the consequences will be dire. She tries to say something, but she gets told that he will cut her tongue out' if she says a word!"

Infact it is after this episode that apparently Kashaaf stopped communication with zaroon and stopped sharing her problems...I am glad that the series zaroon is just not like this and neither is kashaaf so weak...

But I hope some day I can read the whole novel and not half of it...and judge the book my self...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I have read the novel..and I find the show way better overall. The novel is all diary entries of Zaroon and Kashaf. There were more interactions between the two, primarily during their university time. I liked the university bit in the novel better than the show..however, Zaroon and Kashaf's life post marriage is better depicted in the show than it is in the novel.
Zaroon is way more hotheaded in the novel. He's A LOT more chauvinistic in the book than he is in the show. In the show, he's really not even close to that. He ends up slapping Kashaf during the library scene, in rage. After marriage, he was also shown to be very possessive of Kashaf. The basis of their fights in the book are different than their fights in the show. There was one bit in the novel after their marriage which I really wished they illustrated in the show, but they didn't...and it was when Kashaf was about to go in labor. She was in severe pain, and Zaroon realizes that and holds her hand and tries comforting her. Other than that, I liked the show better. Zaroon and Kashaf are far more easy to relate to in the show than they are in the novel..at least in my opinion. I know some people who preferred the novel over the show..I however thought the opposite. The show is VERY different. There are a lot of changes. The writer really revamped the show's screenplay.


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Originally posted by: starstruckk

I have read the novel..and I find the show way better overall. The novel is all diary entries of Zaroon and Kashaf. There were more interactions between the two, primarily during their university time. I liked the university bit in the novel better than the show..however, Zaroon and Kashaf's life post marriage is better depicted in the show than it is in the novel.

Zaroon is way more hotheaded in the novel. He's A LOT more chauvinistic in the book than he is in the show. In the show, he's really not even close to that. He ends up slapping Kashaf during the library scene, in rage. After marriage, he was also shown to be very possessive of Kashaf. The basis of their fights in the book are different than their fights in the show. There was one bit in the novel after their marriage which I really wished they illustrated in the show, but they didn't...and it was when Kashaf was about to go in labor. She was in severe pain, and Zaroon realizes that and holds her hand and tries comforting her. Other than that, I liked the show better. Zaroon and Kashaf are far more easy to relate to in the show than they are in the novel..at least in my opinion. I know some people who preferred the novel over the show..I however thought the opposite. The show is VERY different. There are a lot of changes. The writer really revamped the show's screenplay.



Thank you for your input... 😊

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