Haq and hadd - Page 2

Nice write up dear. Well summarised.

Sara and her mother at times are shown as ill mannered rather than liberated. What Sara did to Farhan or rather her attitide is general at times comes across as lack of basic manners. There is a word called punctuality and it shows your character and not reflect you being dependent and doormat. She is annoying with her cribbing and it will only increase.

I like Zaroon father a lot and I think he is those kind of men who prefer to keep mum even in the situations where necessary just to evade it or to maintain peace. Does it make him weak or intolerant man who cant be happy with success of spouse? I dont think so rather I feel with time he made so many silent adjustments that now he is indifferent.

Zaroon was a chauvinist in the novel as I have read on social media and a nasty one. The show portrayed him in much milder manner to suit the sendibilities. So I will agree to some extent that he is a chauvinist and that too a self proclaimed one. But on the conyrary I do think he is way too opinionated regarding norms related with fairer sex and thats because he is product of that disbalanced household with Ghazala and Sara preaching a complete wrong perception of liberated womanhood. He does not want to go through the same events, emotions and loneliness his father went through. So setting rules for women in his lives is like a shield to him. Good or bad he does not know but its his insecurities foiled under chaivinism imo.
In the long run, he will choose a true strong woman whose self respect and liberated attitude will attract him towards her throughout as he thinks she is flawless. But having said that, there will be times his control freak nature will shoot up your bp , watch for FAK and charm in those sequences to sail through. Lol

Originally posted by: Star_girl

Yes, Zaroon is a male chauvinist, but we have to keep the context in mind. Are Indian men, where women are comparatively more liberated, not chauvinists? So, before watching the show, we should not forget that this is a show set in a country going through extreme transition where every value clashes against each other. Context is crucial.

Like Zaroon's mother, she is quite right in her stance, had this been in India, but the scenario is different when you switch the location. Zaroon's sister, Sara, though takes independence to extreme like you mentioned. Her apathetic attitude towards her boyfriend, Zaroon's mother's independent existence display the necessary contrast between the two households. Kashaf though, is the only one in her family who is fiercely independent, Zaroon too stands apart from his cosmopolitan family through his casual misogyny.

- On another note, I loved their first meeting. They are crackling together.

Zaroon type men are breathing on this earth like a predominant species.Aare they bearable? Yes if you make them your logic see and they have their sensibilties intact.

Originally posted by: pinkeye

Zaroon type men are breathing on this earth like a predominant species.Aare they bearable? Yes if you make them your logic see and they have their sensibilties intact.

Originally posted by: Arshics

Infact, Indian men are pretty much similar to Pakistani men, as india too is undergoing a similar upheaval in terms of changing social dynamics and value clashes.

And in that context, I feel that Zaroon is cynical, basing his impression of women from his experience, but his cahuvinism is still in formative stage. He is quite accepting of women being on par with men

But is yet to acknowledge and come to terms with his opinion in this respect.

Let's say he seems to be an early stage chauvinist rather than a dyed in wool irreparable one! 😆