What an episode!! - Page 3

Originally posted by: aquaHP

I wish I had such interesting insights but I don't😭😆

Thank god! Someone saw why I shared the conversation!!

Same day, same time and that too with loud music. If you wanted it to be a separate affair and I'm sure MA would have wanted to hide this from KuhuNal then why not do it at a different location?

I'll wait until tomorrow to see what happens. Kuhu did tell Mishti she was welcome to have the godh barai herself because she wanted a baby shower with friends and not a traditional ceremony. It would have been better to have it at a different time and place, but then where's the drama in that?!

I don't know whether doing it without telling KuhuNal someplace else would have even been possible based on what I saw yesterday, but that might also have been best.

I will say though that if Abir and Mishti should have known better, so should Kuhu. Worrying about being discarded after the child comes should have been done before because Jas had already put that thought in her head before she changed her mind about termination in the hospital.

I'm also not sure where and how Mishti didn't respect Kuhu but, since you didn't really have the conversation with yourself, you may not be able to help with that 😆. I'm seeing indulgence, is that what you (and/or others) are calling being treated like a child? If so, I agree. The indulgence is way too much, even for a pregnant woman. Or are you maybe seeing not indulgence but condescension?

I am glad Kunal seems to be seeing things from Kuhu's perspective, but I'm not sure that will last if he finds out about her "deal" with Meenu. I may be wrong though.

Originally posted by: angelfire78

I'll wait until tomorrow to see what happens. Kuhu did tell Mishti she was welcome to have the godh barai herself because she wanted a baby shower with friends and not a traditional ceremony. It would have been better to have it at a different time and place, but then where's the drama in that?!

I don't know whether doing it without telling KuhuNal someplace else would have even been possible based on what I saw yesterday, but that might also have been best.

I will say though that if Abir and Mishti should have known better, so should Kuhu. Worrying about being discarded after the child comes should have been done before because Jas had already put that thought in her head before she changed her mind about termination in the hospital.

I'm also not sure where and how Mishti didn't respect Kuhu but, since you didn't really have the conversation with yourself, you may not be able to help with that 😆. I'm seeing indulgence, is that what you (and/or others) are calling being treated like a child? If so, I agree. The indulgence is way too much, even for a pregnant woman. Or are you maybe seeing not indulgence but condescension?

I am glad Kunal seems to be seeing things from Kuhu's perspective, but I'm not sure that will last if he finds out about her "deal" with Meenu. I may be wrong though.

Bold-1: True!

Bold-2: About what?

Re. discarded: Once she had gotten pregnant, it didn't matter what step she took, she would have been forgotten once the child came into picture. That is what the market nightmare was about.

Re. indulgence: I am sorry but you will have to elaborate more because I am not sure what actions come under indulgence or condescension with regards to this show.

Re. treated as a child: I don't know if the next line will answer what you were asking or not but I hope it does. What the context of the conversation has been in my group: Mishti, BM-BP and after lockdown, Abir, Kunal, Parul, have been calling her immature and childish and saying that she has bachpana, where as the whole of the what the show portrayed before the double marriage was how Kuhu handled situations properly and with thought. She hates being called immature and childish and when people continuously do that, it results in her acting like, "agar itna karne ke baad bhi inko lagta hai ki mai childish aur immature hoon toh I'll show them that only".

Re. Kunal: I'm not sure what is going to happen in Kunal's case now because we haven't given all the details of the changes that have taken place throughout these 5months. I kind of a feeling that Kunal gets what Kuhu had been saying all this time so he might be more open to listening to her side of the story, but I'm very intrigued to see what will happen when the deal comes out in the open, because if that happens, Meenu will never get to see the kid (Abir aur Kuhu mein se ek toh chheen hi lega uss se).

Hey aqua. Thanks a lot for sharing your discussions with your friends in here. Glad to read them all. I stopped watching the series since kuhu agreed for the surrogacy.

Iam so sure this series would never be fair to her character. They give her the worst deal and a couple of bad lines so you never validate her struggle. Somehow I find having to carry someone else's baby in the middle of a pandemic a whole lot more worse than making milkshakes and noodles. Irrespective of how everyone ended up in their respective situation. I am glad to see kunal being on kuhu 's side for once. It doesn't matter to me if he is being fair to others or not. She deserves it so much for everything that she did for him. She really earned it . So glad to see kunal and varsha making their stand clear after brushing of their feelings for so long. And funny to see how abir can't handle kunal's change. It's really not much different from him snapping at everyone and keeping everyone at arms length during mishti's ptsd. He is a feminist and champion of women's rights only when it comes to mishti Or to go against BB. I don't even want to get started on bm😐

Originally posted by: aquaHP

Bold-1: True!

Bold-2: About what?

Re. discarded: Once she had gotten pregnant, it didn't matter what step she took, she would have been forgotten once the child came into picture. That is what the market nightmare was about.

Re. indulgence: I am sorry but you will have to elaborate more because I am not sure what actions come under indulgence or condescension with regards to this show.

Re. treated as a child: I don't know if the next line will answer what you were asking or not but I hope it does. What the context of the conversation has been in my group: Mishti, BM-BP and after lockdown, Abir, Kunal, Parul, have been calling her immature and childish and saying that she has bachpana, where as the whole of the what the show portrayed before the double marriage was how Kuhu handled situations properly and with thought. She hates being called immature and childish and when people continuously do that, it results in her acting like, "agar itna karne ke baad bhi inko lagta hai ki mai childish aur immature hoon toh I'll show them that only".

Re. Kunal: I'm not sure what is going to happen in Kunal's case now because we haven't given all the details of the changes that have taken place throughout these 5months. I kind of a feeling that Kunal gets what Kuhu had been saying all this time so he might be more open to listening to her side of the story, but I'm very intrigued to see what will happen when the deal comes out in the open, because if that happens, Meenu will never get to see the kid (Abir aur Kuhu mein se ek toh chheen hi lega uss se).

@bold - getting on-board with the surrogacy. I am unable to excuse anybody here, regardless of the reasons.

Re.discarded - her thought process from the market nightmare was that her modeling contract would ensure that no one would forget her, and then she would not need anything from RJVs. So why change her mind about the termination?

Re. indulgence: I understand pregnancy mood swings and changes in what you want to eat and so on, and I will even accept that it makes you very irritated with a person you don't like in the first place. I call it indulgence that everyone seems to just accept that Kuhu will constantly be irritated with Mishti and Mishti will keep trying to give Kuhu what she says she wants and still be found fault with. But it's not at all clear to me what Kuhu wants Mishti to do exactly. Your discussion seems to indicate Mishti needs to treat her with respect and I'm asking for examples where she didn't because I didn't see that.

Re. treated as a child: Not sure how much of all this you have watched, so I will be elaborate on my response. Mishti has been treating her like an adult she has differences with since the marriage happened. Kuhu was also supportive of Mishti Varun track end and when Mishti found out about her not being able to have children.

@bold italics - if that's the case, childish and immature behavior will be called that. Cannot expect different.

Her behavior asking Mishti to apologize to her for the magazine cover being exchanged was immature and childish, not her disappointment about not getting what she was so hoping for. If someone's behavior is immature and childish, why can't it be called so? Actually though, everyone in both families behaved ridiculously when Mishti and Kuhu were fighting about that. I will agree with you there that the excusing of Kuhu's behavior as childish and immature and expecting Mishti to be mature was irritating as hell. The way both families behaved when Mishti helped Kuhu and took her to the hospital took the ridiculousness to new heights.

After she got pregnant, she got upset that Mishti was also getting gifts. Again, I don't understand how that is not immature and childish behavior. I get that she's disappointed because she is the one carrying the baby, but the baby is Mishti's. Everyone is calling it "bachpana" to Mishti and asking her to excuse it and put up with it for the baby's sake. However, people are talking about the mood swings and rudeness when they are saying everything will be fine once baby comes. I will qualify that the expectation could be that Mishti should continue to put up with it even after the baby comes because of her sacrifice. It doesn't (and shouldn't) be that way in my opinion. I really have no idea when everyone will start treating Kuhu as an adult either.

I've been waiting for Kunal to understand Kuhu's perspective for a while now, so I'm also interested to see how that goes.

Originally posted by: aquaHP

Bold-1: True!

Bold-2: About what?

Re. discarded: Once she had gotten pregnant, it didn't matter what step she took, she would have been forgotten once the child came into picture. That is what the market nightmare was about.

Re. indulgence: I am sorry but you will have to elaborate more because I am not sure what actions come under indulgence or condescension with regards to this show.

Re. treated as a child: I don't know if the next line will answer what you were asking or not but I hope it does. What the context of the conversation has been in my group: Mishti, BM-BP and after lockdown, Abir, Kunal, Parul, have been calling her immature and childish and saying that she has bachpana, where as the whole of the what the show portrayed before the double marriage was how Kuhu handled situations properly and with thought. She hates being called immature and childish and when people continuously do that, it results in her acting like, "agar itna karne ke baad bhi inko lagta hai ki mai childish aur immature hoon toh I'll show them that only".

Re. Kunal: I'm not sure what is going to happen in Kunal's case now because we haven't given all the details of the changes that have taken place throughout these 5months. I kind of a feeling that Kunal gets what Kuhu had been saying all this time so he might be more open to listening to her side of the story, but I'm very intrigued to see what will happen when the deal comes out in the open, because if that happens, Meenu will never get to see the kid (Abir aur Kuhu mein se ek toh chheen hi lega uss se).

When deal comes out nothing will happen. Abir will blast meenu n mishti will stay quiet. Kuhu will be hailed as she is d first woman who is giving birth through surrogacy n no one will know dat she went to abort some else baby 🌚🌚🌚🌚 lekh ke lelo yeh script hain

Kand sab karte hain badnaam sirf meenu hain, 😏😏😏

Originally posted by: Sarcastic_me

When deal comes out nothing will happen. Abir will blast meenu n mishti will stay quiet. Kuhu will be hailed as she is d first woman who is giving birth through surrogacy n no one will know dat she went to abort some else baby 🌚🌚🌚🌚 lekh ke lelo yeh script hain

Kand sab karte hain badnaam sirf meenu hain, 😏😏😏

"Epic" take on an "epuke" track!😂😂😂😂

And brief.👏

PS:Epuke-to quote Kabir Mehra from Dil Dhadakne do.

Originally posted by: aquaHP

Na na karte karte dekh hi liya episode and I'm sorry to everyone who is sad but it was so much fun! Felt like I was watching a Balaji show, just with a better written antagonist.

I had went in expecting to hate it based on everything I read on the forum today but the episode surprised me. It bowled me over. I'm really looking forward to discovering what is this event that took place that has everyone rattled (Refer Kunal coming to the kitchen and telling that it has been difficult for everyone).

First up! I need to appreciate Kaveri! Damn girl! She has made me her fan! That change in her expression when Meenu made her eat noodles👏. Uff!! Kuhu maidan mein utar chuki hai and she is ready to play dirty. That has to be my favourite scene of the day apart from when they showed how and when she became this evil, unforgiving person. Writers & makers, I forgive you for all your blunders and all the nonsense you've made me sit through because looking back and seeing Kuhu's journey from a bubbly girl trying to attain validation from her family to her becoming this this girl who realised that she is in too deep (and alone) to get out of the mess she has unwittingly created for herself makes for such an interesting and layered character. That scene when the doctor asked her if she wants to call anyone and she says, "Mere saath koi nahi hai"💔 Must say that scene hit the correct nerve after the market nightmare scene with Varsha and Meenu.

I was expecting to really hate Kuhu for what all she said to Mishti and it was definitely very very 🤢 but I was more intrigued to know what is cooking in Kuhu's head. There's a plan brewing which involves getting Kunal to mistrust Mishti (and Abir?) or to get Kunal away from this family and show Meenakshi the finger, and I am so interested to know what this plan is.

Also, did anyone else notice that Kuhu is back in the upstairs room?!

The final showdown is going to be so interesting with Meenu, Kuhu, Abir and Varsha being the main players. This episode actually made me so excited.

P.S. Just a heads up that I won't be replying until and unless it's about something interesting. I'm not interested in playing defence for liking the episode or Kuhu's transformation.

Read your postscript too, so not expecting you to reply to this and I'm not being hopeful of the outcome as well, but I had an itch. So, wanted to address some things(for anyone interested):

italic: I will agree with you 110% if I watched an episode and wiped my memory clean before watching the next. Or, if I randomly came across this episode without ever watching the show. I have borne through every episode of the track(without skipping a nuance in dialogue, body language, however grating it got from every single character actually-accusing everyone here because all are responsible) so I can say this with certainty that-Tab tak Kuhu lachaar thi, bechaari thi (and I genuinely felt so bad for her, I overlooked her cancelling the adoption and insincerely convincing them at the mandir), par uss din jo woh karne ja ri thi, uske liye sirf ek phrase hai: chhal kapat. For context, you've got to watch all the episodes without skipping.

underlined:Plan sirf ye hai ki she wants to ensure Mishti becomes the new Parul in the future (figuratively, I didn't mean she'll start dusting the house now). There's no other plan. She brought Mishti into her list of reasons for keeping the baby ever since Meenu made her insecure about HER own status in the house knowing full well even money won't be enough to tempt Kuhu-when materialistic promises fall weak, target the self or the ego. That's Meenu's code of operation:Saam, daam, dand, bhed. Till then she had thrown a pity party for Mish, supported her when Meenu targeted Mish earlier, didn't blame her for being Meenu's next pawn, happily hugged her and genuinely appreciated her efforts with the solitaires and royal treatment she was getting from Mish (and that's why I didn't find anything wrong with Kuhu till then and accused only the rest). Ever since Meenu said all that and since she's always been afraid of being known as Parul's bahu and hated it when the fact became public, she thinks she is securing herself by ensuring Mishti gets meted the same treatment that Parul has endured from Meenu. And this is her goal for eternity.

bold:I agree with this without reservation, though I have a feeling our contexts might not completely overlap. And Kaveri, as an actress, has been great.

strikethrough: I would challenge her to play dirty without holding a foetus to ransom. Because even for a "relatable and layered" character like Kuhu, that's unethical and is an all time low. (This is taking into account the following episode's Meenu-Kuhu convo which I'm not sure you've watched yet.)

PS: TIll that point, MishBir were being idiots about a lot of things, but at this point, they are only being idiots for having trusted Kuhu.

Originally posted by: Sense9

Kaveri's knocking it out of the park. She's getting to play so many emotions and shades and she's executing it all amazingly.

Other than Abir if there is anyone who can lock horns with Meenakshi, it's Kuhu. Though Meenu is a much more experienced player, (the way she manipulates Kuhu in the hospital), Kuhu can hold her own.

that's true. till that phase, who's wholeheartedly with her? Varsha tries to be but BM has her own drama regarding that. Abir is there but there's a limit and of course he has other priorities. Kunal, till this episode that you're referring, hasn't been up to the mark. Parul's nice with everyone. Jasmeet has her own agenda. rest we know who stands where.

Also I am liking the fact that Varsha is giving the cold shoulder to BM. Knowingly or unknowingly BM has always been biased and Varsha cant even say anything about it without coming out looking bad.

Varsha's fears about her daughter being discarded after the child is born, is not totally baseless.

bold:In the context of everything that's happening now: Forget Varsha/Abir/Jasmeet/Kunal, Mish is her staunchest supporter and well wisher. Kuhu hates her so much that though she acknowledged most of Mishti's goodness in front of the mandir(however insincere she may have been-it's proof that she is atleast aware), her other childish issues with Mishti prevent her from leaning on Mishti. If only she had kept all that aside and teamed up with her, she would've got everything she wanted. But Kuhu doesn't like to be a team player because then she'll have to share the limelight. She doesn't realise that everyone's happiness lies in the victory of a team and her sole happiness could mean collateral damage for people around her(unwitting or deliberate).

italic:Varsha's worries and concerns and fears are all valid, but her behaviour is not. She's dealing with the whole situation in an even more immature fashion by wallowing and sulking in private. If she wants to help her daughter, she has to be on the field, holding Kuhu's hand and guiding her. BM wasn't for surrogacy either, she is torn from an ethical point of view because the deed has already been done and she can't come up with abortion as a solution. She had gone with Varsha to the hospital to stop Kuhu earlier. I would agree that I wish she could reflect on Varsha's fears with more concern and support Varsha too. BP's solution to Meenu's ill treatment of the daughters is to bring them back home and that's all he has up his sleeve right now, if Kuhu is indeed discarded in the future. Meenu ke saath aur kuch kaam ni kar sakta. He was ready to do that with Mish too but Abir stopped him. Infact, even Varsha had promised Kuhu that Mah house is always open to her if she ever faces problems again in the future. She had also delivered on her promise by not letting Kuhu return to RJV house when Kuhu initially rejected surrogacy and stormed away. She should have been finding out why her daughter changed her mind instead of behaving the way she is right now.