All characters in the show - a discussion

There are many things I wanted to respond to, but the threads they were in were probably not appropriate, so I'm starting a new one. I'll pull in what I wanted to respond to. I hope we can have a good discussion.

To start with, I only started watching this show last October. I came to see what Shaheer's current project was (I had binge-watched SP Mahabharat), saw some episodes, went back and watched all from the beginning. This is the only show I have ever watched real-time in ITV.

I connected with Abir and Mishti first, because they had characteristics unlike usual (from what I have seen) ITV leads. What attracted me to Mishti was that she was so unlike the usual FLs who are self-sacrificing to the point of stupidity. She seemed like a real person. Same with Abir. And then all the other characters. Each one has a story, a reason for their behavior, and their character so well thought out. It hooked me. Even the so-called villains have their reasoning (although I'm still trying to understand what Meenu hopes to accomplish by having the sisters fight).

I miss them. I come here to discuss them because I miss them (and I have time 😆) and I get to see so many perspectives. It all leads to my understanding these characters better. And it's amazing that 2 months since the show has been at a standstill, we still have such robust discussions going. I love this forum for this and it was the main reason I came out of my silent lurking.

Now for some the things I wanted to discuss - I'll add in replies because otherwise the post becomes too long.

Originally posted by: aquaHP

This is never going to happen butmore misunderstandings for MA because that is the only way we will see theirrelationship develop. The 2 are not a family waale couple (let me know if youwant me to elaborate on this point or you got it) so I would like to see howthey navigate that tussle between family and pyaar.

Family waale couple - what is your reasoning? I have my reasons for why I think they are not completely this way. Let me explain.

Usually in a joint family, one person has final say in most things (people can discuss,but I mean more like deciding vote rests on one person). In MH it is BP. Even if people don't agree with him, what he decides goes. Mishti's response to this is to do what she wants publicly and then get forgiveness (there are many more layers and I'm trivializing a bit for simplicity). Kuhu deals with it by doing what she wants secretly. The clash comes when BP agrees with what Mishti does publicly and reacts differently when what Kuhu does comes out.Applies for BM and rest of family too. Many things at play here, but Mishti's thinking is that everyone is OK because they agree that what she did is right and Kuhu's thinking is that Mishti is the favorite. I think the truth lies in-between, but then I would always choose "neither agree nor disagree".

Coming to RJV, Meenu has obviously been the deciding vote all these years. Abir's response so far has been to leave if things got to a head between them. The only time they could have worked it out was after baba's exit, but Meenu messed that up royally. Now that he and Mishti are finally together, he's ready to take her on. So it's a tussle for control of family between Abir and Meenu.

So family waale couple in the sense they will do anything for their family, but not family waale couple because even for family, they won't give up what they want or do what they think is wrong. I don't know if this makes sense. I love this about them though.Contrast this to Kunal and Kuhu who do things they don't personally like or approve of for the sake of family. I can't imagine Abir and Mishti doing this except for 2 instances - when Abir broke up with Mishti and when Mishti agreed to marry Nishant.

Originally posted by: ruhi19

MA is family couple and in anycouple life family aur pyaar ke beech balance karna sekhna padega... jo MA karsakte hain vo kisi aur kar nahi sakta as their characters designed...

this is my personal POV that first any couple married should focus on their relation and then family ,because only your partner support u in any situation and ur relation with your partner makes peace in family... just to make MA family couple there need to be misunderstandings between them...

Ruhi - are you saying more misunderstandings are needed or are you saying they are not? I would rathernot, but maybe the fights are needed.

I explained above what I think about the family waala couple. I agree that partners should support each other, but in some cases, especially in arranged marriages, you can click with family first and then partner.

Originally posted by: ruhi19

B: the understanding between mishbir is different because they connected trough pain and for them moe than themselves other person come first, their happiness comes first but for every wife usko phele apni husband ki kushi imp hai and health bhi , so mishti's behaviour is justified because she seen abir in worst situation.

i dont how many believe in thisbut kabhi kabhi insaan ko smaajne ke liye ek minute kaafi hain and kabhi kabhihum unhe pure zindagi samaj nahi payenge...

mishbir may fairy tale couple but mishbir like couples are in real life esply in joint familes, mishbir fans are more frastuated because of their mis communication and way of reciprocating words from each other...

Agree, that their connection is quite deep. Reminds me of a shayari I read recently on the net -

Koi halaat nahi samajhta,

koi jazbaat nahi samajhta;

ye toh bas apni apni samajh hai,

koi kora kaagaz bhi pad leta hai,

toh koi puri kitab nahi samjhta

Originally posted by: aquaHP

If you expect Kuhu to say sorry for every wrong she has done till now, then Mishti needs to apologise for deliberately ransacking Kuhu's cupboard, stealing the papers and opening them too, even after being repeatedly told to stay out of the matter. Jas may have announced it loudly but atleast what she does is on the face. You can't have itboth ways ki Mishti ko sorry nahi bolna chahiye but kuhu ko bolna chahiye.That's not fair.

Also, coming to the selfie thing, Kuhu has *always* been shown to click one perfect selfie and never has needed to click a second one. She is talented like that.

What I don't get is the constant negative light people keep choosing to see this relationship in. They share a love-hate relationship and it's been portrayed as realistically as can possibly shown on TV. So, I really don't understand the villianising of Kuhu's character. Agar aise shuru karein hum to Mishti bhi koi doodh se dhuli nahi hai.

@Bold - I like that about Mishti's character 😊 Most FLs are very boring.

As you know by now, I like both characters. As you said elsewhere, they have a love-hate relationship. I don't really think either will apologize to the other. They may apologize to other people, but each other - no way!

What is most important for Mishti is not the most important thing for Kuhu and vice versa. So, these clashes are inevitable. But there is a point of no return. For me (and I know others feel differently), they haven’t gone there yet with Kuhu or Meenu’s character. I really hope they don’t go there for the sake of TRP.

Hi🤗

First of all, Thank you for creating the post, I thought I was the only one who thinks long and hard about these characters and comes up with scenarios.

Bold- i don’t know.. I think it is quite possible they may apologize to each other. Maybe not right now but if both tried to understand each other’s perspective, it is highly likely. We have seen that they were both empathetic to each other during the breakup phase and divorce phase respectively.
Kuhu had even apologized to Mishti for Abir’s behavior once.

Right now both of their judgements are clouded. Kuhu is thinking Mishti is going to steal her place, freeload off of Kunal- due to misunderstandings and doubt created by Jasmeet (she has a big hand in Kuhu’s extreme behavior sometimes). And Mishti is deeply hurt. There was a scene where Abir and Kunal go to cheer up Kuhu and Mishti stands by the door. She suddenly remembers every time Kuhu had hurt her and has tears in her eyes and leaves.
They both don’t trust each other, but it is possible to rekindle it if they try and understand each other’s perspective.
Maybe it’s just my point of view. I have had a damaged relationship with my sister as well and when I tried my best to understand where she was coming from, I was able to forgive her.
Kuhu needs to face her demons, her insecurities which are deeply rooted with Mishti and her entrance into her life. Her insecurities aren’t invalid if you ask me. There have been many times Kuhu was being sidelined maybe unconsciously but for a young girl, when she feels she is not accepted she will react.

Originally posted by: angelfire78

@Bold - I like that about Mishti's character 😊 Most FLs are very boring.

As you know by now, I like both characters. As you said elsewhere, they have a love-hate relationship. I don't really think either will apologize to the other. They may apologize to other people, but each other - no way!

What is most important for Mishti is not the most important thing for Kuhu and vice versa. So, these clashes are inevitable. But there is a point of no return. For me (and I know others feel differently), they haven’t gone there yet with Kuhu or Meenu’s character. I really hope they don’t go there for the sake of TRP.

Originally posted by: tumhiho

Hi🤗

First of all, Thank you for creating the post, I thought I was the only one who thinks long and hard about these characters and comes up with scenarios.

Bold- i don’t know.. I think it is quite possible they may apologize to each other. Maybe not right now but if both tried to understand each other’s perspective, it is highly likely. We have seen that they were both empathetic to each other during the breakup phase and divorce phase respectively.
Kuhu had even apologized to Mishti for Abir’s behavior once.

Right now both of their judgements are clouded. Kuhu is thinking Mishti is going to steal her place, freeload off of Kunal- due to misunderstandings and doubt created by Jasmeet (she has a big hand in Kuhu’s extreme behavior sometimes). And Mishti is deeply hurt. There was a scene where Abir and Kunal go to cheer up Kuhu and Mishti stands by the door. She suddenly remembers every time Kuhu had hurt her and has tears in her eyes and leaves.
They both don’t trust each other, but it is possible to rekindle it if they try and understand each other’s perspective.
Maybe it’s just my point of view. I have had a damaged relationship with my sister as well and when I tried my best to understand where she was coming from, I was able to forgive her.
Kuhu needs to face her demons, her insecurities which are deeply rooted with Mishti and her entrance into her life. Her insecurities aren’t invalid if you ask me. There have been many times Kuhu was being sidelined maybe unconsciously but for a young girl, when she feels she is not accepted she will react.

Thank you

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Yes, the way they comforted each other post mishbir break-up was amazing since for Kuhu no one else knew her marriage was falling apart. I really didn't like the divorce drama happening in between mishbir shaadi - both deserved their own space.

Yes again for Jasmeet instigating Kuhu. A couple of instances they show Kuhu brushing her off but constantly hearing this will definitely affect how you think. And Meenu is using both Jasmeet and Kuhu in her zeal to prove Mishti is the wrong bahu. The MH family not trying to understand Kuhu's POV is not helping her either.

Mishti is hurt and I love how Abir said she was not wrong after that. He also said before that she didn't have to apologize to Jasmeet because she did nothing wrong. I love that about Abir!

Understanding the other person's perspective is the key. It's like me telling my toddler that his toy breaking is not the end of the world. It is for him, and in the end that's what matters.

Actually I would say all 4 of them need to face their demons and their insecurities, and they're showing that pretty well.

Originally posted by: angelfire78

Thank you

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Yes, the way they comforted each other post mishbir break-up was amazing since for Kuhu no one else knew her marriage was falling apart. I really didn't like the divorce drama happening in between mishbir shaadi - both deserved their own space.

Yes again for Jasmeet instigating Kuhu. A couple of instances they show Kuhu brushing her off but constantly hearing this will definitely affect how you think. And Meenu is using both Jasmeet and Kuhu in her zeal to prove Mishti is the wrong bahu. The MH family not trying to understand Kuhu's POV is not helping her either.

Mishti is hurt and I love how Abir said she was not wrong after that. He also said before that she didn't have to apologize to Jasmeet because she did nothing wrong. I love that about Abir!

Understanding the other person's perspective is the key. It's like me telling my toddler that his toy breaking is not the end of the world. It is for him, and in the end that's what matters.

Actually I would say all 4 of them need to face their demons and their insecurities, and they're showing that pretty well.

Bold1: I loved that stage a lot.. both of them were cordial and understanding with each other. I hated that the divorce and wedding happened together too. There could have been so much explored individually for both couples but unfortunately they had to be intertwined. Yes both deserved their own space. I think literally and figuratively that’s their problem! Not being able to have their own space 🤣

Bold2: For sure!!! All four of them are broken in their own way. That’s why we are all connected to their characters. They do things according to what they feel is right. Sometimes not thinking about the other person in the situation.

Mishti’s insecurity regarding her parents, she feels like she couldn’t control them or their actions. She blames herself for their separation, because people taunted her with the same. But her meddling and controlling behavior derives from there. The fact that she wasn’t able to keep her parents together, now she has to make sure everything is okay and in place so that nothing falls apart. I don’t agree with it, she digs her own grave sometimes tbh. She should learn to let things be and if it’s meant to be it will be.

Abir and Kunal and their over controlling mother. While Abir had rejected all her strings but Kunal fell right into them. That was due to his love and admiration for her. Sometimes we feel like our parents are right, why would they make you do something wrong? And he was constantly being told that, “if you love Abir you will do this or that”, that is another level of manipulation. Using somebody’s emotions to get them to do what you want. Him finding out that the mother he looked up to wasn’t his mom and that she was using him as a pawn in her game to keep Mishti away.
Also Abir finding out the dad he looked up for so many years is not who he thought he was etc.

Kuhu choosing to trust and accept Kunal again shows how much she desires love. She just wants to feel desired and accepted. I feel like Kunal needs to prove himself a bit more worthy for her (my opinion) he has been pretty brash with her lately.

I have so much more to say but I’ll leave it at this because it’s getting too long and I think I’ll bore you

Originally posted by: angelfire78

Ruhi - are you saying more misunderstandings are needed or are you saying they are not? I would rathernot, but maybe the fights are needed.

I explained above what I think about the family waala couple. I agree that partners should support each other, but in some cases, especially in arranged marriages, you can click with family first and then partner.

MA will learn with time being... i want to see them having cute fights like newly weds... i want them to work on coming to middle ground...

Originally posted by: tumhiho

Bold1: I loved that stage a lot.. both of them were cordial and understanding with each other. I hated that the divorce and wedding happened together too. There could have been so much explored individually for both couples but unfortunately they had to be intertwined. Yes both deserved their own space. I think literally and figuratively that’s their problem! Not being able to have their own space 🤣

Oh definitely. That's why Kuhu never wanted Mishti in her sasural. if they have their own space, they are actually ok with each other too. Around Mishti GD time she even made peace with Mishti getting her fairy tale because she thought she'd back with the Maheshwaris (nebulous, but one thought).

Originally posted by: tumhiho

Bold2: For sure!!! All four of them are broken in their own way. That’s why we are all connected to their characters. They do things according to what they feel is right. Sometimes not thinking about the other person in the situation.

Mishti’s insecurity regarding her parents, she feels like she couldn’t control them or their actions. She blames herself for their separation, because people taunted her with the same. But her meddling and controlling behavior derives from there. The fact that she wasn’t able to keep her parents together, now she has to make sure everything is okay and in place so that nothing falls apart. I don’t agree with it, she digs her own grave sometimes tbh. She should learn to let things be and if it’s meant to be it will be.

Abir and Kunal and their over controlling mother. While Abir had rejected all her strings but Kunal fell right into them. That was due to his love and admiration for her. Sometimes we feel like our parents are right, why would they make you do something wrong? And he was constantly being told that, “if you love Abir you will do this or that”, that is another level of manipulation. Using somebody’s emotions to get them to do what you want. Him finding out that the mother he looked up to wasn’t his mom and that she was using him as a pawn in her game to keep Mishti away.
Also Abir finding out the dad he looked up for so many years is not who he thought he was etc.

Kuhu choosing to trust and accept Kunal again shows how much she desires love. She just wants to feel desired and accepted. I feel like Kunal needs to prove himself a bit more worthy for her (my opinion) he has been pretty brash with her lately.

Mishti doesn't let anyone keep her down, but yes, her meddling is sometimes out of control - especially the divorce papers thing. Finding baba, I feel she was doing it because Abir wanted to find him and she really had no reason to believe Meenu or even Kuhu over Abir at that time. Otherwise her general jaasusi is something I appreciate in her character even while it makes me cringe sometimes. I'm crazy like that 🤣

Yes, Abir and Kunal have now faced that the person they had on a pedestal doesn't fit there. I really hope Kunal doesn't put either Kuhu or Abir on a pedestal now. He needs to think for himself.

They really need to explore Abir's feelings. They never really explored how he coped with baba's truth. He got another jhatka then and everyone who was feeling sorry that Mishti was hiding stuff from him now had to sympathize with her instead!

Kuhu choosing to trust and accept Kunal again I feel is somewhat influenced by Varsha accepting her husband even after a great betrayal and making it work. She does want to be accepted, but I wish again that she had taken some time. There was no need to rush into the second wedding. She could have made him court her - do all the things he refused to do when he was in courtship with Mishti. That would have been an amazing track for them.

Originally posted by: tumhiho

I have so much more to say but I’ll leave it at this because it’s getting too long and I think I’ll bore you

Please, I love civil discussions. We can always agree to disagree 😊 I think most of my opinions are a little out there anyway. 😆