Annoyed with writers - Page 3

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

Is Nishant really grey, though? Or is it just that he took a proactive step against the leads' romance?

The moral compass on this show has always been heavily skewed towards the leads. Any time they make a mistake, someone else's mistake is blown out of proportion so they look like victims. It's been the MO of the writing since day one, so if they do throw Nishant under the bus (which I'm still not entirely certain they will), it won't be a surprise. On this show, anyone who is in support of the leads' romance is "positive" and anyone who is not is either "grey" or "negative." We must simply forget that other characters might have motivations, feelings, and an internal logic of their own.

The thing that most disappoints, and in fact scares me, about this so-called "redemption" of Abir is how it plays fast and loose with the concept of consent. The same Abir who once quoted Pink to Shweta and reminded her that "na ka matlab na hi hota hai," is now refusing to take no for an answer. And Mishti (with her dreams of Abir being dismissive to her family and rescuing her) is complicit in this dangerous game of "no means yes." It was not Abir's place to defend Mishti at the temple, when she and the family have explicitly told him to stay away, and it is incredibly careless to show this as some grand, romantic gesture. And what did Nishant see after that? Abir holding onto Mishti's hand while Mishti begged him to let her go.

In today's episode, Nishant compared Abir to a drug for Mishti, and I think from what he has seen that is actually an accurate assessment. Nishant came back to India with an open mind about Mishti and Abir's relationship but what he saw mirrored addiction very closely. Mishti showed unhealthy dependence, lied to her family, kept insisting that one hit would solve everything, came back increasingly broken each time, but always insisting that the next hit would do the trick. Nishant has been through this with drugs, and he's essentially treating Mishti like a friend who has asked him for de-addiction support.

The decision Nishant made today is certainly debateable in terms of circumstantial vs. absolute morality, but in my books, it's far more defensible than Abir's harassment (yes, once the individual has said no, it IS harassment). Eventually, Nishant will realise that Mishti was lying to him as well -- she wasn't really sincere about quitting -- but until then, all I see is a friend who is doing everything in his power to protect someone he cares about from going down the same path he did.

Agree 1000% with everything you said. This forced break up, leap and Abir Mishti 2.0 are very toxic and not many fans are willing to see or acknowledge it because MishBir are the main leads and they are meant to be together. Not just Abir but I also found Mishti pursuing Abir like a hound dog after his repeated requests of she staying away from him and leaving him and his family alone, abusive and problematic. She almost turned into a psycho stalker who thought they were made for each other and kept trying to get him back by hook or by crook. And now Abir is doing the same, he does not care about what Mishti wants, he thinks he has never seen Mishti as happy as she is with Nishant but he still wants to break the marriage and get her, ignoring the fact that his mom will make her life a living hell after marriage, ignoring the fact that Maheshwari family will fall apart if the marriage breaks. If we remove the romantic shades over our eyes of MishBir and see this particially, we can see how wrong this all is. Nishant is not the bad guy here at all, IMO, Mishti and Abir are.

Am honestly amazed at the justifications here. No one is claiming that Abir or Mishti are flawless. They have messed up multiple times and they also pay for their mistakes. But to see Nishant being justified using Abir or Mishti's faults is quite hilarious. Last I checked, Mishti is an adult and Nishant is not her father. It's for Mishti to decide whether she thinks Abir is worth it or not. It's for Mishti to decide whether Abir is a drug or a cough syrup or apple juice. Why does Nishant get a free pass for stalking, hiding crucial information and plotting? Just because he has decided on Mishti's behalf that she will be the happiest with him and Abir is toxic? Is Mishti a ten year old child?

Originally posted by: thedramaqueen

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I had to post earlier in a rush. So I am posting in detail now. Great points on this thread and the other one I posted above. I think this show has a lot to offer but the makers keep shying from tackling the key problems.

Firstly, Abir. They should address his sense of entitlement.He is the way he is because nanu played the good cop more than he should have. Bigben had very few resources at hand to discipline him. We need to remember she had to forever be prepared for Mehul to make an appearance. The writers should address Abir’s need for absconding, WITHOUT involving Mishti. They should show that Abir struggled with the high demands that Bigben placed on him and how he working through that now. This habit of packing his bags should stop. He should start balancing his relationships. How does he afford this lifestyle? He does not draw a huge salary from the NGO one would hope. A single phone tracking app cannot be that profitable. He needs to turn up at the family business more. There is so much meat to exploit here. Dear Makers, show us a redemption where Abir starts to see his mother’s point of view. How she made it in a man’s world. There is very little fun in showing us a vamp mother in law. Instead a son who started to see his mother’s point of view will be more fun. One who teams with his half-brother to manage Bigben’s insecurities. Imagine how entertaining that would be. (They should have done that while Mishti was in London… but better late than never). I don’t want to see a weak limpy (no GM ) male lead. Do something worthwhile with the Bigben’s character.

Mishti’s character and her rock bottom self-worth has all the underpinnings of someone who would look for this addiction sort of love.One that keeps her image intact in her mind. The image of the “perfect” person that various foster family members have created in her mind. At one point they gave her a great dialogue - Abir taught her to accept love and accept her family. I never saw that happen. But even if we assume it did happen, the makers should show her confident enough to tell her family that she still loves Abir and now that he is ready to made amends, she would want to marry him. She needs to stop the jaap of “main sahee thee”. It’s okay to be right and still not be praised a gazillion times for it Mishti! Think again, are you sure you want the roller coaster that Abir is? Because your elders will ask you that question. Please own your love story. Don’t expect others to run it for you

Love this POV. Very valid