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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Koms9

great analysis and thank you for your effort and time to remind everyone about some incomplete tracks. I call them incomplete coz by not showing redemption or an apology or a punishment for such actions, they are showing a bad example to youngsters that it is okay to bully or hate someone to the point of intentionally hurt them physically or emotionally. And there will be no recuperation. In the name of family, showing family playing with emotions of loved ones.

Thank you for reading and for leaving me this comment. This post, in general, was only a reminder to the fandom at large about all the unforgiving things that Kunal and Kuhu have committed towards Mishti and Abir.

It seemed like some people had chosen to forget about them altogether as makers seem to have. It was to remind them exactly what these two characters are capable of and how they don't deserve any sympathy from us. Mishti and Abir don't owe these two anything. The other couple don't even deserve to be forgiven in my honest opinion. It's about time, the creatives addressed these issues and remember that we aren't stupid. We are still waiting. It's horrible how they have made these characters commit such atrocious acts and then force their unpalatable new equation/bond with one of the leads.

Either redeem them the right way or forget about us accepting these characters ever. But watching the segments from today, I'm a little hopeful about them not having forgotten completely. It's Kunal's turn now. I sincerely hope I'm around to witness Kuhu's as well.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: misaki

I never thought I would have to actually list them down but here we are. Let's get started, shall we? But before that, some dictionary definitions:

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Culprit: n. a person who is responsible for a crime or other misdeed. Synonyms: Guilty Party, Offender, Wrongdoer

Victim: n. a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action. Synonyms: sufferer, the injured party, an injured person

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Now for the evidence:

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Exhibit A - Kuhu Maheshwari/Rajvansh

1. Constantly abusing Mishti, every single chance she gets. From calling her 'an outsider', 'a stray puppy', 'a freeloader', comparing Mishti to her criminal father. Reminding her repeatedly that she isn't someone who is needed, someone that isn't loved, someone who doesn't belong and will never belong. Being a complete bully, harassing Mishti time and again with the only intention of inflicting pain. To someone that was abandoned by her parents and forced to find her place in the family she calls her home, it doesn't come as a surprise why Mishti suffers from the incessant need to be 'perfect' and nothing less than 'perfect' for her family in fear of being abandoned and the constant habit of blaming herself for everything that ever goes wrong around her. Abuse never fails to leave an impact on all its victims. Low self-esteem, social awkwardness, suicidal thoughts, and turning into psychopaths being just some examples. Mental abuse isn't a joke.

2. Writing emails from Mishti's mail ID and framing her not just in front of her own but Kunal's family too. Knowing fully well how completely wrong she is and what it would mean for Mishti. Basically, if Abir had not stepped in and insisted on believing Mishti, she would have had a hard time proving her innocence. Kuhu got away unscathed after framing Mishti. Forget making it right, Mishti didn't even get an apology.

3. Blaming Mishti for her problems wasn't enough, she turned to blackmail. Forcing her to apologize and take the blame for something she did not commit in the presence of a crowd, made of relatives and friends. It took everything in Mishti to kill her self-respect and do as she was asked, only to pacify her sister's immature fiance and his deranged mother. But let's just add that to the long list of things she has always done to harass Mishti mentally. Mental abuse but with a different twist or rather a new addition - humiliation in presence of a crowd.

4. Pushing with the prior intention of wanting to make Mishti fall from the human pyramid and succeeding in almost killing her. And we have a criminal offense that can be charged and tried in an actual court. And with the evidence produced, I don't think any judge/jury would even slightly hesitate in giving the guilty sentence for 'attempt to murder'. Murder, or rather, attempt to murder is still a pretty serious offense punishable by law and isn't as easy to get away with it unlike how the makers clearly made it look like. A joke!

5. Planned and executed revealing Mishbir's relationship in the worse way possible to her family. She knew exactly what she was doing and the end result. Aware of the soft spot the Maheshwari's. particularly Bade Papa and Badi Maa had for Abir and knowing fully-well they would never say no to Mishbir's relationship if Abir and Mishti ever got a chance to ask the family for permission themselves. By revealing their clearly private date she hoped to deliver a blow big enough to hurt Abir's reputation, question Mishti's decision and effectively turn Mishbir's relationship into a blasphemy! And she succeeds Mishti was reduced to tears at the thought of losing Abir. Abir at Mishti's state. Both of them losing their sleep that night, in tears and in fear of what their tomorrow would bring for their relationship and in turn their happiness.

6. She loves playing the victim and refuses to repent as she tries to use every trick in the book to ensure Mishti and Abir never succeed in making their relationship official. With Mishti, she threatens, screams, manipulates everyone around her to convince her to give up. Going as far as vowing to not let her have the 'love' she deserves. On the other hand with Abir, she let's him continue to be in the dark about the absolute loathe she carries for the love of his life, playing the role of a 'good little sister' to the 'T'. Carrying out her plans to separate him from his only source of happiness behind his back as she smiles and plans parties in his name. Hypocrite much? She continues to actively try to separate the two people who had finally found true love, happiness and home in each other, knowing fully-well how much they mean to each other and having no other excuse but her own selfish stubbornness and inability in letting go of a clearly unhealthy toxic relationship, a mockery in the name of marriage. I fail to understand her character or her need to save the marriage that is as fake as her love for Mishti. Why would you destroy genuine love for some relationship that doesn't even have an existence? That isn't prioritizing oneself, that's being evil. Fighting for yourself is your right but fighting for a clearly lost cause at the cost of destroying two other people's happiness isn't. Being self-centered is understandable and to some extent encouraged as well but that isn't the same thing as being selfish which is what Kuhu is.

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Exhibit B - Kunal Rajvansh

1. Using Mishti as an excuse to toy with another girl's feelings while using that other girl's feelings, in turn, to insult and frame Mishti as the 'bad guy' all the time. Going as far as manipulating Kuhu to plant fake evidence in the form of emails sent from Mishti's account. All with the clear intention of making it look like it was Mishti that sent those to defame Kunal and break Kuku alliance to exact revenge for her broken alliance with Kunal. Kuhu, Kunal and his mother everyone walked away without paying any kind of price for the humiliation and hurt they caused a girl, completely innocent.

2. Equal participant in blackmailing Mishti into humiliating not just herself but a family she has always loved and prioritized above everything else. Forcing her to create that awful incident at her own sister's haldi celebration. An incident her sister still holds against her, making it the very top of the list of her reasons to hate on Mishti. An incident that forced her to leave the house that had been the only home she knew. An incident that haunts her till date, as some of them continue to mistrust and misunderstand her every move. Despite the clarification that was provided, an incident that has given her bullies a constant opportunity to openly harass and question her intentions all the time. An incident that forced a sister to miss her sister's wedding. An incident that forced her aunt to not just slap her across the face but rip another one on her heart as well. The physical damage long forgotten but unfortunately, we can't say the same thing about the scars on her heart.

3. Time and again he has deliberately tried to frame Mishti as the sole reason for him not being able to give Kuhu or their relationship a chance. Going as far as placing the entire blame on Mishti while breaking MishKu's alliance to save himself from a marriage that clearly he was never ready for. (Currently trying really hard to ignore how many levels of wrong that was with respect to Kuhu as well) Even after he knew how much he had already cost her; her dignity, her family and her home, he went ahead and took that last step, to take from her, without any doubt, any chance she had at finding love. In my opinion, that makes him as big a monster as his mother is. I will not apologize.

4. He continued to berate, disrespect and insult Mishti every single chance he got. Thus adding to the abuse she gets from Kuhu and Jasmeet on a daily basis. But he went too far by manhandling and belittling the girl at her work-place and especially in the presence of a huge crowd. There must be something in the Indian Penal Code that makes it illegal and punishable by law for someone harassing a girl like that, right? If there isn't, this country needs new laws! That was so awful, it hurt to watch. I can't imagine ever having to witness something like that and God forbid actually experiencing it.

5. He keeps repeating about how much he loves his brother but when it actually comes to standing up for him or fighting for him he never delivers. Even in his love for his brother, 'his love', 'his bhai' always comes first. Eventually, it all boils down to himself and his ego. 'His' brother cannot fall in love with a girl 'he' hates. 'His' brother cannot prioritize anyone else above 'him'. 'His' brother can definitely not find happiness away from 'himself and 'his mother'. No one can disagree over the fact that Kunal does really care for Abir but his love for him has always been selfish and always conditional.

  • Concerning Abir's dad - Trying to stop Abir from finding the one person he has repeatedly tried to find, his father. Kunal knows how much Abir's baba means to him, yet he continues to dismiss Abir's pleas for him to understand his need for closure. Yet again, assuming he needs no one but himself and his mother. What right does he have to make that decision for his brother? He fails to understand his brother time and again, prioritizing his mother's wishes and her pain over everything and everyone else, including Abir. Most times he doesn't even treat Abir as a person who lives and breathes and holds opinions like everyone else. Abir cannot have feelings Kunal isn't in favor of, he cannot make his own decisions that Kunal doesn't approve of. He treats him more like a possession that he cannot bear to share with anyone else apart from his mother. That's not just unhealthy but scary as well.
  • Concerning Mishti - Not once has Kunal even 'tried' to understand his brother's feelings for Mishti. He concocted this delusional world made of evil witches and poisoned apples. He managed to convince himself that Mishti was the evil witch, Abir the damsel in distress and Kunal the price to the rescue. When in reality, he has been the only one who has continuously caused Abir pain, probably like no one else. By constantly disrespecting Mishti, trying to ruin her and demeaning their relationship time and again. By not even trying to hear him out and giving him a chance to explain even when he clearly isn't entitled to one. Only a blind person would be oblivious to what he has been doing in the name of saving his brother. He isn't protecting anyone and least his brother, he has always been doing the things he does to Mishti only to satisfy his male chauvinistic ego.

Such tall claims of sacrificing his life and happiness for his dear brother but alas, he can't even forgo his ego for the said brother's happiness.

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And with that, I leave it to you to decide who the victims are and who the culprits. It's ironic how the real victims on the show continue to fight for themselves and their culprits while the real culprits continue to play the victim card.




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A/N: These are obviously only some of the major incidents that I really hold against the characters from the very beginning of the show. However, these aren't the only offenses the characters have committed against the victims. If you would like to point them out in detail, please feel free to use the post as a thread. I think it's time we remind ourselves and makers if possible, of all the offenses we haven't forgotten, definitely not forgiven and still hope to see closure for someday.

P.S I honestly don't wish to compare the leads with their siblings. I usually tend to shy away from it especially in the forum since it's a rather sensitive topic and everyone has their opinions which I respect but Mishbir have never once deliberately tried to hurt anyone especially their siblings ever. So to blame them for the unfairest and honestly, absurdest of things, things they had absolutely no control over, makes no sense to me. So this post is only put some things into perspective and not an attack on anyone personally. I hope the replies respect the sentiment as well and refrain from making it into a personal opinion attack post. Would appreciate it.

You really summed up all the wrong doings of Kuku. Even if we keep aside the mental abuse blackmailing and attempt to murder are really serious issues
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Posted: 5 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: adni143

Just one question why give excuse for main lead when they clearly themselves r not interested in justice

When she knew email thing she could have clarified

When she knew kunal can break with kuhu if she will disclose then why not do it if she knows and herself said to kuhu of ur rishta is this week that it will break due to ur sister love then better it breaks but she gone tyaag mode

But if she has to go tyaag mode only then why not forget abir as u know kuku will be affected with or without marriage

But u mishbir fans always have bhan or excuse ready for mishbir. Mahanta and justify and show them as Vitim

What abir is thinking he is big bro but was so in hurry for kuku knowing kunal still has not fallen for kuhu enough as clearly was not in love till engagement bit u werebut not in hurry for himself if both mishbir knows the problem and have no ability to fight them then better break off

First u want everything ur way and don't even have courage to fight for it

Sorry but I can't justify kuku and can say that whatever happened to them is their own doing not mishbir

But whatever is happening with mishbir is also their own doing

It was abir who wanted mishkun and manipulated situation when naman done mishti accident who does that when u r attracted toward that girl

It was mishti who after knowing about kuhu feeling started to force it I remember mishbir conv where abir clearly mentioned that I can't force kunal mishti clearly wanted kuku to happen to just show off kuhu that how much she can do her

Sorry fans will say then done with good heart this that

But they really were hypocrite one side they have no jaldi for shadi but kuku ki shadi ke lite jaldi that yeah kuhu was desparate but why mishbir were desperate

So whatever kuku will do and face I can't blame mishbir and what mishbir will face I will not blame kuku

As both relation is independent

Its up to the person and couple to handle things

If kuhu abused mishti then mishti even took the shit and not informed family

Excuse me for interference but thuis was not an excuse for problems of Mishbir. It cannot be denied that Kuku have toxic traits in them and are extremely selfish
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: adni143

I am not a blind fan

But I like mishbir chemistry till now abir character and even kuhu

I don't like kunal much due to mishti hate but in courtship track I was okay as it was real

I hate the character mishti

And shaheer is reason till now tolerating the crap and his character till now is okay if his character will go sacrificial route then I can finally quit

Anyway not watching some episode and skipping it after mumbai track especially

And I am not a blind fan that to justify one will approve other shortcoming

My point is simple why kuku fans blaming mishbir and vice varsha as I can clearly see kuku extra selfishness and mishbir extra selflessness has got them into trouble and if being selfish is incorrect then being selfless even excess of everything is bad

Anyway continue ur blame game and asking to stop watching everyone who ask for reasons if you have no answer that is valid just like kuku their illogical hate or mishbir illogical sacrifice or hypocrisy

Would you mind if I ask why do you hate Mishti?
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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: iamthat2019

You have actually summed up the entire sequence of events so beautifully and I agree with you completely that these two characters have completely changed the meaning of the word sibling.I couldn't agree with you more how skewed the thinking of these two individuals are.In kunals case I would say it's bad parenting and perhaps wrong genetics have made him into a completely illogical and irrational being.For Kuhu I Unable to understand where she got her personality traits from.She was brought up in such a loving home with such mature grandparents.I don't know till when will the makers torture us with this non ending barrage of negativity in form of these two.

@Bold - They really have, haven't they? I mean, I've been in a lot of tiffs with my sibling and have experienced the rage and jealousy that comes naturally when we spend so much time with each other. Especially when you are treated differently for being old and young. But the way these two behave and have treated their respective siblings is horrifying.

I honestly think both these characters are a result of bad parenting and overcompensating by their respective parents on their part. Kunal's influence is obvious. Kuhu, I believe has been spoilt too much by her mother. Badi Maa and Bade Papa were Daadi and Daadu to her and not her parents. There is only so much a grandparent can do. It's the parents that are responsible for their kid and clearly Varsha has failed as a mother. She herself is a very weak woman and even weaker mother so it's no surprise why she is the opposite of Mishti in a lot of ways.

I am so glad our prayers have been heard and we are getting some respite in the form of Mishbir scenes the last couple of episodes. I really hope they continue with the tradition and keep indulging us with more of their scenes. I really am tired of watching the negativity brought on by these two and their mothers on the show. We deserve some positivity and so do Mishbir.

Edited by misaki - 5 years ago

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