21 Sept, 2023 - Synopsis Hub - Page 15

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This. Thank you

I’m at a loss for where this imagined grief of Ak is coming from cuz there is nothing in the scenes onscreen to indicate any of this. She is just a blindly irritated and immature person who could never articulate or express her own immature understanding of love and relationships….could never understand Abhi’s love for her and still continues to gaslight him cuz she is frustrated that destiny never frees her of him and so she has to spin a zillion false narratives to lay all blame on him for everything rather than ever acknowledging her own mistakes 🤷‍♀️

They haven't shown Ak' trauma yet. I am hoping they would. They touched upon it today for the first time that's why I got excited by what they showed today. Also she had Abhir who is a product of their love, so definitely she is in a better state than Abhi is. That is the only difference. Otherwise both Abhi and Ak have been traumatised by their separation.

Originally posted by: Emeralues

That's okay. See, I am trying very hard to not impose what I feel should be done with what Ak is trying to do. I am trying to understand why she is doing it even if I don't necessarily agree she is right.

If Abhi doesn't forget or forgive her then will they ever have proper love story. You pointed out correctly that love should be loving all of the personalities, both good and bad and evolve together. but it was Abhi who couldn't accept her ability to commit mistakes. She on the other hand accepted his anger right from the start of the marriage. His anger on the consequences of Ak's mistakes was justified, even I agree. and he only succumbed to it when it involved his sister or brother both of which were traumatic. But why divorce your wife for this? I still believe that even after saying all that in the bedroom, if he had just walked out she would not left they she did. She would have at least gone to BP. But he just ended everything which made her walk out. I know they will fix this point in future episodes but I am saying this is what the events are indicating.

Both are faulty characters but this entire leap is clearly about the karmic justice that Abhi had to suffer for surrendering to his anger. they have not even started on redemption for Ak. the only redemption we got to see was Ak losing her custody before she hid Abhir's parentage. That was wrong and she was punished, otherwise who loses custody just on the basis on finances. It's clear what the makers were trying to say that it was wrong. But she also did other mistakes mainly not getting the grief of what Abhi lost. he lost abhir's childhood. Ak can get her love or marriage back but Abhi can never hold the baby Abhir to his heart. I think she will get it when they will have the baby girl and a proper apology will come from her.

You also raised a point on Ak not apologising. I think she did many times. But the other times, Abhi was equally guilty of downplaying it. Like at the Mandir when Ar questioned what you are doing with my fiancee blah blah. it's Abhi who jumped in and I will tell you why as if he completely understood it. If you rewatch the scene, you will see Ak's surprise that he understood it and it only made her love him more. To turn around and say you did to me and actually punish her for it was bad IMO. That is why she is refusing to listen to him now and observed him clearly rather than going by what he is saying. She wants him to say what his problem is so knows what she is dealing with.

About Ak taking Abhi's love for granted. I don't think she did. I think she felt entitled to it, a very subtle difference but something that destroyed her. She believed she was his whole world and his everything. Whereas she always gave him a balanced view that sometimes we have to let go for family. Abhi put her on a pedestal and taking her higher and higher and then threw her down. This has broken her. Nothing can fix that, not even Abhir. Even though Abhir managed to heal her, it's only Abhi's love that will fix her.

I disagree with a lot of points here, so will take it step by step.

No they cannot have a proper love story without talking about both of their mistakes. I have not seen Ak ever apologizing for any of her mistakes properly or even acknowledging the pain she caused Abhi. It was always just glossed over. And lol, what is this "couldn't accept her ability to commit mistakes". Is that a character trait? commiting mistakes? Anger is a character trait, one which I don't actually think Ak ever accepted. Her idea from the beginning was that she can change him and his family. Do you not think that is flawed mentality. She wanted to go to Birla house and immediately transform it into her version of a loving family. She always told Abhi to quit his anger and not take impulsive decisions. There is no acceptance here really.

Infact someone put it really well sometime ago. Abhi both loved and hated the same thing about Ak - her selflessness and willfulness, which is why he could never stop loving her. He loved the very things that cause him issues. But for Ak it was very different, she loved Abhi's love and devotion to her, but she hated his anger and impulsiveness. So when one overpowered the other, it was very easy for her to only view Abhi through her hate lens. She could just forget the love and devotion and focus only on the negatives.

You bring up Mandir confession. Yes, Abhi was able to understand Ak and her fears.....but that doesn't mean he can forgive her for what she did to him. All of her fears, everything, was about her family....how does that give her the right to play with his feelings? to hurt him? to make him suffer and live a lie? He explained on behalf of her, for her family. But she should have apologized to him for what she made him go through. She should have told him how much she appreciates his love, how lucky she felt at the beginning before all of the mess of Arohi, how she felt sad and guilty about hurting him, etc. Nothing from her end. That is what led to a lot of mess. Her then saying their love is wrong when BP got the heart attack, her siding with her family constantly, her leaving for a year. All of that is the same thing. And none of that was actually addressed by her. She just wanted Abhi to have blind faith in her and her love.

The entitlement I agree with. I agree that Abhi put her on a pedestal above his family, above everyone in his life. Always supported her. So when he stopped, she was more affected.

Originally posted by: Emeralues

They haven't shown Ak' trauma yet. I am hoping they would. They touched upon it today for the first time that's why I got excited by what they showed today. Also she had Abhir who is a product of their love, so definitely she is in a better state than Abhi is. That is the only difference. Otherwise both Abhi and Ak have been traumatised by their separation.

It's a faulty narrative not to show her side of feelings n her trauma in separation, letting her say all sorts of bull shit dialogues of a happy family ,nav jaap at every opportunity given, making viewers to assume things and her perceptive..with no clarity ..the cvs wanted to keep it open so that they could jump either way,like a cat 🐈 on the wall..

Originally posted by: Needhi.A

Very nicely written. Your observation and break down of her whole speech is correct and proper.

Yesterday bahut saare log Abhimanyu' ko kya kya nahi bole ...

Any time ready to bash that character just seeing the promo and precap . Mrs. Sharma is just born baby who is not aware of the feeling of other person but forces that person to the extent and threatens him to tell the truth.

That character has lost its senses

I appreciate this person in X app who did this

https://twitter.com/pryn1993/status/1704678427473985931?t=Cy_eyc826F6aVsG7RWAplw&s=19

Originally posted by: lagjagale

First this is a wonderful POV for Ak, but I don't see it.

I don't really think its possible for Abhi to forgive her or forget her mistakes, if she doesn't even acknowledge them or say sorry for them. Each of the instances you have mentioned, Ak has not apologized for any of them, or given token apology at best. His love is what always overpowers him, more than his anger. In his love he tries to forget her mistakes, or move on from them or whatever, but then when she makes yet another mistake, it is hard to forget the past and everything does come rushing back.

Cause Ak from her end never really resolves anything. She wants him to understand her, which he often does, but even with understanding one needs that apology and acknowledgement. They made a mistake and will try not to make that mistake in the future.

Ofcourse she never understood him before the divorce also. Because she always took his love for granted, and then got astonished at his anger. Now there is no anger and she is still not okie with this Abhi. Cause the problem never was his anger, but her understanding of his love. Her problem with hot and cool, was more about how it is impacting her, not about how its impacting Abhir. Cause there is no real impact on Abhir. Her issue is that he is hiding his feelings from her and she cannot accept that. Her issue with the jacket is also stupid because somewhere she also knows what he is trying to say, but she doesn't want to accept that he loves her, so she is just getting mad instead.

And love isn't about wanting some preferred personality in the person. Its about loving all of their personalities and how they evolve. People do change overtime. Even this Abhi the one that exists now, will not remain same person. He may also change based on what triggers his life gives him. If you tell someone you only want one version of them, you are keeping them trapped. Abhi on the other had has loved and accepted each and every version of Ak. From the good to the bad. From the pretty to the ugly (personality wise). But Ak wants Abhi a particular way and if he deviates from that, she gets mad and gaslights him.

Originally posted by: Jyotsna09

It's a faulty narrative not to show her side of feelings n her trauma in separation, letting her say all sorts of bull shit dialogues of a happy family ,nav jaap at every opportunity given, making viewers to assume things and her perceptive..with no clarity ..the cvs wanted to keep it open so that they could jump either way,like a cat 🐈 on the wall..

yeah, even I don't know why. They are completely silent on it.

Originally posted by: sunshining

Agree Grace, writers will never show AK's pov because that proves the last 9 months and cameo's were unnecessary,

Need your EK theories today. Who do you think gets hurt in the shooting?

- AB saving both Abhir and AK, prompting Abhir to call him dadda? or

- AK trying to be wonder woman again and AB doing butter knife surgery? or

- Abhir and him taking a promise from Abhira that they will be a happy family?

I dont want AB to accept marriage of convenience if AK is the one to initiate it. For a change it would be good for him to reject it.

I think Abhi may tell the shooter it is him he wants take him and leave his son out of this. Abhi may get shot which may prompt Abhir to call him Daada or just further make him believe he needs to get his parents together. We could get a forced situation where Akshara may have to take care of Abhi since he is hurt.

I don't think Akshara will suddenly change to lets get married. But she may see how attached Abhir is now to his Docman so she needs to work on smoothing out their relationship even after this confession from Abhi. Abhi knows his limits so he won't cross them. And he knows she doesn't love him anymore and how she feels about their marriage so he isn't having some grand expectation she is goint to come waltzing back into his arms. Anyways it was Akshara who badgered what has been bothering out of him. He simply gave his truth and his understanding of the situation he knows they are in.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

You're welcome! :) It's not a bad epi....HC did all his scenes very well as usual....but yeah aaj Ak was spewing nonsense so if you have low tolerance for that, might want to skip

Interestingly Ak managed to spew so much nonsense today without a single mention of Nav....lol matlab even without mentioning Nav, Ak ke muh se bas bakwaas hi nikalta hai

@bold: Oh interesting....I didn't think there was still scope for that....lol but you're right, it's possible they may use this incident to transition Abhir over to calling Abhi Papa and that is when Ak will be jolted into realizing that Abhir has moved on to accepting Abhi as his Papa.

Waise bhi kuch dino se they aren't showing any clear shot of Nav ki photo.....aaj bhi when Abhir was trying to put together pictures of Docman with Mama Betu, Nav ki photo in the background was out of focus

I don’t know why they give Akshara word diarrhoea, when she starts talking. She just speaks nonsense without thinking.

She acts like a child who just speaks without thinking. Let alone with Abhi, even with Abhir her conversations today were like she is a child, not his mother. Her phone conversation with Abhir, saying what you want with me and docman will never happen. I mean this isn’t a topic of casual conversation with a kid, act like a grown-up, not like a 6 year old. Maintain your stance but don’t talk like a child.

@Emeralues reply :

"Ha ha. Okay let me try to explain my point better. Like I said, Ak is faulty character.

her nature of trying to compromise every time for family always hurt Abhi and it was not just because of the way he loved her. I am saying he never said this to Ak properly. At the time of Mandir confession, all of us felt that he understood her. In fact she was surprised when he actually brought it up on WD and was like ...really? Then why didn't you say so. My only point is If he had proper discussion that he still hasn't forgotten it, she would have had that conversation and apologised. She actually thought it was not a problem at all and happily dancing in her marriage because that is what he made her feel. I will actually give you two more incidents that will make your POV look better than mine.

One was the sangeet when Ak threw the marbles and made Abhi lose. That was so naive that even I cringed. it was low. and clearly Abhi had a problem with it. But he went to her and tried to subtly hint his disappointment whereas she just talked over him. That was wrong. It was also something that cemented his view towards her but he loved her too much and he was just done with all the drama at that time. He only wanted the marriage and oversaw that this nature of hers as something he can easily control when she is is wife. He couldn't.

Another is the example you gave about BP HA. yes, her comment was misplaced but she tried to apologise . Unfortunately, to drive a particular narrative they just made her leave for whatever reason. After that Abhi was deeply troubled for the whole night and morning and when he saw her dancing, he resolved that his love will only grow stronger. It was not right for him to downplay his feelings like that. It doesn't matter if it was an overreaction or not. That fact is that is what he felt. He never said anything to her about it.

I am not trying to defeat my own argument 😂 I am saying Ak now realises she missed out understanding this before. He actually claims to be honest but he also hid the fact that he was deeply disturbed, the extent of which she couldn't clearly contemplate until the divorce. he argued with her but also immediately coddled her with his love because he mainly wanted to see her smiling all the time. But this is what led to their divorce. So she is needling him now. tell me...tell me. It's very annoying but she is getting to the bottom of his feelings. She still doesn't understand that she is doing it because she cares as she is in denial. But we will get there.

And yes there are people who prone to making more mistakes than others. It usually happens when you are younger as you are trying to fit in and impress people around you. But for others, it is a personality trait because they have this fixed perspective that if I make an effort then everything will be fine. So they never grow out of it. Now I am not sure if if they are trying to show Ak was former or later. she was very young when she got married. it is the same reason she jumped in and sang for MJ during the fire incident.

Also, I am surprised you want Ak to accept his anger and his impulsive decisions - it is half of the problem of Abhira. She stood against his decisions she was inherently strong. Evolving in love should definitely not mean that. Just because they have shown his redemption properly and clearly for the last 8-9 months doesn't automatically wipe out Ak's grief or her character.

P.S. I may not have touched all your points"