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Posted: 2 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: randomdino


I understand what you are saying. However I do feel that every love story is special and it deserves to be told in a beautiful way. You are very right in pointing out, Akshara and Abhinav's love is different but it doesn't mean its any less special. It need it's own trajectory - Case in point: Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. You understand Nandini's POV. In fact towards the end, although its heartbreaking to see Sameer but you understand why Nandini chooses Vanraj and you root for her, you root for them.


See, the HDDCS scenario is what happens in most ITV shows....a woman may have had a passionate first love and then ends up getting married to some other guy unwillingly/through some coercion but then falls in love with him after getting to know him better.....they are also able to heavily beat you over the head with the fact that the love of a wife for her husband is different from that of a woman for her lover.


This parallel unfortunately doesn't work in Akshnav's case because their whole baseline is about Akshara pulling Nav into her life to make him the father of her child. And her past was not that of a lover that she loved passionately, her past was with a husband she loved passionately and whose child she birthed and is still raising. For 6 years, she had no romantic emotions for the new husband she set up life with and then suddenly out of the blue she is rushing to give him all the wifely feelers😆.....no one can call this a love story - it is two people settling into their convenience bubble to avoid having to face the lies on which they built their life together. The very fact that the basis of this marriage is Akshara putting a false name on a birth certificate and then handing over her child to a man to raise because he helped her during her pregnancy? There is no plausible scenario in which to turn this into a love story after 6 years....it will only remain a convenience with the affection that comes from familiarity - not actually knowing each other in the full sense.


There is still SO much Nav doesn't know about Akshara and he doesn't even seem that curious to know, but this is being called understanding rather than just a person with a very passive attitude towards life and his relationships😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Thanks! :)


And you've made some great points here again as well!


@bold: That's it in a nutshell....the writing for her character is non-existent and whatever little exists is flipped around by makers for contrived plot twists or story dragging.


You're right about Abhimanyu's love for her being that one constant stand out about her.....probably cuz Abhimanyu himself is the kind of character who doesn't know how to stop loving - unfathomable is a great way to put it but that is precisely what it gives it that otherwordly feeling....his is a love that survives even when all the forces in the world are working to tear it down....this would not happen with any regular kind of love to be able to withstand all these forces. They both literally got torn apart 6 years ago and so much has changed since then but his love for her remains unchanged.....his ability to love her even after she has driven him to his wit's end a 100 times😆....I really find that remarkable. His ability to feel for her as a parent when she never gave him even an iota of regard for the longest time....that is what makes his love more unfathomable. What kind of a man would be able to maintain that love in his heart even after all doors have been shut in his face? The very fact that he doesn't hide from the truth of his love and his emotions ultimately compels most people to face their truths.


As you put it beautifully, he seeks answers to his dilemmas, has the courage to express regret for his mitakes rather than trying to bury and suppress all his emotions - that is something Akshara does and that is why she is a much harder character to comprehend.


Coming to Akshnav....I don't think they have anything in them to be able to be the "IT" couple as per where the story stands. If that was the intention of the makers, they would have evolved them via a proper love story of showing that phase of attraction building up as their emotions shift....but what was shown onscreen very much gave the impression of an Akshara rushing to assure him as a wife by constantly hugging him, holding his hand to make him feel like he has the whole family picture in the form of a wife as well. Again, the bar is not simply Abhira when it comes to Akshara in love....lol if the makers wanted, they could still show her feeling attraction organically for a new guy and build that attraction in a different way....every relationship doesn't need the same level of passion, understood....but please atleast make some effort to show a basic level of attraction between a couple rather than these role playing type actions....lol makers just haven't done that for these two so I don't feel they will amount to anything much more than this.....this is their plateau as a pair and after this, even if makers continue to keep them together, there is nothing more to explore....even having a baby will feel like a technicality rather than any outcome of a proper love story.


Which is why to me the signs for Abhira still remain even if makers are playing their double game....lol simply the act of an Abhi still rushing to hold her as she's falling shows that love lives on through Abhimanyu and until that exists, the path back to them always remains open along with the child that will always deeply link them no matter how much Akshara tries to enforce alternate fantasies....lol


I'm not even expecting any proper redemption from Akshara per se cuz I know how low the bar is with the writing for her character....lol but I'm just saying that no one should count out her tendency to flip no matter what impression of being in love she is currently giving with full conviction😆....her track record is not reliable one bit😆


You write like a dream. ✨


What you wrote about Akshara and Abhinav is exactly my point - the bar shouldn't be Abhira, because no two love stories are and/or should be similar. Let their love story develop organically, but then that would require mature and nuanced writing from writers aur wo toh inse Mahadev bhi nahi karwa sakte. 💁🏻😄


And you are so right. For us, jab tak Abhimanyu (Harshad) hai tab tak humaare liye Abhira ki umeed hai. Poor chap, he is single-handedly keeping the entire fandom alive. Lol.


Par Abhimanyu ko Raanjhana ka wo dialogue kitna suit karta hai na - "Tumse pyaar karna, humaara talent hai Zoya, isme tumhaara koi haath nahi" 🤭

Posted: 2 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: randomdino


What you wrote makes complete sense. Considering the current circumstances, Akshara Abhinav are the couple and makers can/should take their story forward. But then, you know that's the thing, Akshara as a character is extremely complicated, one moment you think you understand what she is thinking and then she'll go ahead and do the exact opposite. Her motivation to do what she does is so frustratingly difficult to understand but then you realise her heart is always in the right place, so you cannot really be angry at her also. And makers have willingly kept it that way, so that storylines can never be predicted because you never know what she'll do. It's hilarious and annoying at the same time. 😄


I am an Abhira stan, through and through but I would not mind seeing Akshara with Abhinav, if their story is carried out properly. :) It's just that I do no trust our girl very much. Lol.

As I said as a neutral viewer who just watch the show as show and don’t analyse too much into the show can only see what’s being shown! And I don’t think Akshara is an extremely complicated character but a very simple girl who was kicked out by her husband immediately after her miscarriage who she loved immensely ! She met another man finally fell in love with him and trying to be happy with him but after 6yrs her ex and ex Mil trying to destroy her happy family! Her ex who confessed her knowing she is married to someone else and also her shameless ex mIl who is expecting her to comeback to her ex! But She clearly refused them ! Her ex cringe looks and the way he trying to race with her husband and reach her before him looks repulsive to watch! I don’t think she is such a cheap character who acts with a man and advances physically to whatever reasons some might try to find! But for the viewers that thought itself seems absurd!

As u r saying u r Abhira Stan , May be u wanted them back and looking too much into it! But that’s not happening right now in the show! A women like Akshara will not stoop so low to fake her love to anyone!

May be Manjari and her son in their convenience bubble don’t want to accept the facts r relying in lies ! Not every love story is same and the makers clearly showing progress of their love story but here it’s just not kind of teenage love story they have a kid ,his health issues, now custody drama so they need to balance everything too ! So it might look incomplete but they r very much in. Love with each other!

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Edited by Chaitu.V - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: Chaitu.V

As I said as a neutral viewer who just watch the show as show and don’t analyse too much into the show can only see what’s being shown! And I don’t think Akshara is an extremely complicated character but a very simple girl who was kicked out by her husband immediately after her miscarriage who she loved immensely ! She met another man finally fell in love with him and trying to be happy with him but after 6yrs her ex and ex Mil trying to destroy her happy family! Her ex who confessed her knowing she is married to someone else and also her shameless ex mIl who is expecting her to comeback to her ex! But She clearly refused them ! Her ex cringe looks and the way he trying to race with her husband and reach her before him looks repulsive to watch! I don’t think she is such a cheap character who acts with a man and advances physically to whatever reasons some might try to find! But for the viewers that thought itself seems absurd!

As u r saying u r Abhira Stan , May be u wanted them back and looking too much into it! But that’s not happening right now in the show! A women like Akshara will not stoop so low to fake her love to anyone!

May be Manjari and her son in their convenience bubble don’t want to accept the facts r relying in lies ! Not every love story is same and the makers clearly showing progress of their love story but here it’s just not kind of teenage love story they have a kid ,his health issues, now custody drama so they need to balance everything too ! So it might look incomplete but they r very much in. Love with each other!



I (already) agree with you that the current storyline is Akshara Abhinav centric. My point is that I am not invested in that because of weak writing, especially with reference to Akshara's character and their (Akshara - Abhinav's) love story, atleast up until now. But, that's just my perspective and you are completely free to disagree on that front. And since we both hold very steadfastly to our rationales, let's just agree to disagree. :) Peace out.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: randomdino

Why is it so hard for many of us to trust Akshara's actions? This is not a hate post, kindly read with patience ♥️


In my opinion, most OG viewers (pre leap viewers) know how unreliable Akshara's actions are. Now I am not saying that she doesn't love Abhinav, maybe she does. After how Abhimanyu treated her post Neil's death, maybe all her feelings for Abhimanyu are actually gone and she cannot be blamed for that. However, it's difficult for viewers to digest that considering how she has been in the past.


I remember her saying in one of the very first episodes of how she wants to explore 'khud se khud ka rishta'. Khud se khud ka rishta, emanates from a place of self love and self worth, which Akshara clearly seemed to be lacking.

2 major flaws with her character were:

1. She has zero self preservation instinct.

2. She has a huge problem of glorifying people to no ends, motivated by her guilt and/or obligation.


A lethal combination of the above two has resulted in multiple circumstances where she has behaved as if she owes her life to people with zero expectations of anything in return. It was as if, she needed to prove 'her love' to other people.


The only person who she didn't need to prove anything to, was *drumrolls please* Abhimanyu :) He genuinely loved her for who she was. She fell in love with Abhimanyu and gradually acknowledged that she doesn't need to do anything to prove her love or sacrifice herself to be worthy of his love for her. She was learning to prioritise herself and love herself, alongside Abhimanyu. Abhimanyu was also the only person Akshara had any expectations from. Mind you, the only person.


But then, Abhimanyu is a man of extremes (and Harshad portrays him to perfection). In his rage he ruined the most beautiful relationship he had and Akshara leaves (rightly so). She doesn't know who she is anymore without Abhimanyu's love, her sense of self is ruined, she doesn't want to be a burden on anyone so she doesn't even go back to the Goenka's (falling perfectly in line with the narrative of no expectations from anyone but Abhimanyu). Eventually she ends up in Kasuali, raising her and Abhimanyu's kid with Abhinav (who is honestly, a decent character).


Abhir was the only reason she had any will to go on with her life and now her sense of self is completely warped with being a mother. Once again, she has someone (Abhir) in her life who loves her and whom she loves without having to prove her worth, so she is extremely protective about Abhir. On the top of that, she feels immensely grateful and obligated to Abhinav because he was there with her during the most vulnerable period of her life. And she has harboured immense anger (almost hate) towards Abhimanyu for what he did to her.


Now, if you see the aforementioned circumstances in the light of her 2 character flaws mentioned above, its just hard to believe that she actually loves Abhinav and the viewers realise this. 😄 (Many in the forum call her flipshu, which is hilariously apt for her.)


Dekho, I am reiterating again that I have no issues with Akshara moving on with her life along with Abhinav. In fact if that's the route makers are taking, they should let Akshara and Abhinav's love story take the centre stage and slowly phase Abhimanyu out. She has all the rights to move forward, especially after how Abhimanyu broke her trust. It's just hard to believe that considering how Akshara is written as a character.


Peace. ♥️

I just wrote this somewhere but you wrote better than me 😅.

Yes theme of yrkkh 3 is 101 ways to sacrifice 😂 in every track akshu does some sacrifice for others.

1st track - sacrificed abhi for arohi

1st leap - sacrificed for abhi for his hand surgery.

2nd leap - reason sacrificing for strangers and now they may show sacrificing for abhinav and abhir.


She knows no limit when it comes to doing sacrifice she goes extreme. That's why even writers can show her making sacrifice of her desires by giving happy family to abhinav and abhir.

They can even show akshu drunk confession was planned one in order to keep abhi away from her. So we really can't predict what would be her next move.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: randomdino


You write like a dream. ✨


What you wrote about Akshara and Abhinav is exactly my point - the bar shouldn't be Abhira, because no two love stories are and/or should be similar. Let their love story develop organically, but then that would require mature and nuanced writing from writers aur wo toh inse Mahadev bhi nahi karwa sakte. 💁🏻😄


And you are so right. For us, jab tak Abhimanyu (Harshad) hai tab tak humaare liye Abhira ki umeed hai. Poor chap, he is single-handedly keeping the entire fandom alive. Lol.


Par Abhimanyu ko Raanjhana ka wo dialogue kitna suit karta hai na - "Tumse pyaar karna, humaara talent hai Zoya, isme tumhaara koi haath nahi" 🤭


LOL OG Abhi may have said this to Akshara at some point jokingly.....but current Abhi will never say this to her - he will just continue loving her come what may, even if she never understands his love for her😆....

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Posted: 2 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

I just wrote this somewhere but you wrote better than me 😅.

Yes theme of yrkkh 3 is 101 ways to sacrifice 😂 in every track akshu does some sacrifice for others.

1st track - sacrificed abhi for arohi

1st leap - sacrificed for abhi for his hand surgery.

2nd leap - reason sacrificing for strangers and now they may show sacrificing for abhinav and abhir.


She knows no limit when it comes to doing sacrifice she goes extreme. That's why even writers can show her making sacrifice of her desires by giving happy family to abhinav and abhir.

They can even show akshu drunk confession was planned one in order to keep abhi away from her. So we really can't predict what would be her next move.


😄

Exactly. What you wrote ties in perfectly with her issues of self love and self worth. With every track she has shown repeatedly that she will consistently prioritise others over her own well being and happiness, aur in sab ke beech me agar kisi aur ki zindagi kharaab ho rahi hai, toh collateral damage. 💁🏻 So the viewers are well within their rights to wonder, isn't that what she is doing right now.


Matlab, dono me se ek fandom (Abhira yaa Akshnav) toh gaslight ho raha hai, and this is why I despise the way her character is written. 🥲✨

Edited by randomdino - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: randomdino


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Exactly. What you wrote ties in perfectly with her issues of self love and self worth. With every track she has shown repeatedly that she will consistently prioritise others over her own well being and happiness, aur in sab ke beech me agar kisi aur ki zindagi kharaab ho rahi hai, toh collateral damage. 💁🏻 So the viewers are well within their rights to wonder, isn't that what she is doing right now.


Matlab, dono me se ek fandom (Abhira yaa Akshnav) toh gaslight ho raha hai, and this is why I despise the way her character is written. 🥲✨

Mostly akshanv fans are new viewers they may not understand completely and og viewers knows her behaviour in and out 😂

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Posted: 2 years ago
#29

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

Mostly akshanv fans are new viewers they may not understand completely and og viewers knows her behaviour in and out 😂


Humaari pyaari Flipshu! ❤️ 🥲 ✨ 😄

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Posted: 2 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: randomdino


Humaari pyaari Flipshu! ❤️ 🥲 ✨ 😄

currently i am angry on her and in team abhirmanyu 😆 the day on which she flips i will be back on team abhira 😆

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