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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Chaitu.V

I may not agree to most of ur points except the last few lines but May be I can try n understand what u r trying to say! I have watched all the episodes and before coming to this forum I have not analysed or read analysis of any character! So I didn’t really have any idea about these character traits or deeper meanings or their inner feelings ! I just watched it as another tv show as most of the viewers do! Neutral viewer!

So for me Akshara is a sweet girl and goes to any extent to satisfy her LOVED ones ! Arohi is best example for that , she may have guilt as Ar always accused her for her mom’s death but Ak always loved her and gave her what she wanted out of LOVE !

BP ,BM,Mimi and kv all loved her but definitely not like parents love their children! AbM loved her and she accepted and got married , she left him for an yr 1st leap for AbM out of LOVE! She. Came back but AbM accused her for running away to save kairav even after she disclosed the real reason he accused kv for Anisha’s murder n sent her divorce papers , she felt cheated and decided not to go back! She got very hurt by his actions but still stood strong and wanted to leave him and move on! But with little efforts of him she gave up and went back to him because of LOVE ! They r slowly building trust on each other and white day happened ! Even after what AbM did he is 1st person she called to inform when she got to know one of their kid is still alive because of LOVE but to get rejected again!


she is broken and met Abhinav who is a stranger helped her in all possible ways unconditionally! Asked him to marry her for the kid and gave him father rights of Abhir!

6 yrs they were together as friends, companions but never though of moving on!

Abhinav slowly started liking/loving her but never openly said her !

After their 1st UD trip after the accident she ran to AbM but immediately realised her mistake , may be there is a little LOVE still existed or as she said just because that they have a history!

She found Abhinav’s letter and thought of moving on ! But only after AbM’s Temple confession she started realising her feelings for Abhinav when AbM asked her how did u move on so easily what did sharmaji do! She rejected and explained him that her relation with him was UMARKHAID! She ran back to Abhinav,hugged for 1st time with fear of not wanting to lose him or his companionship! He asked her to go back she refused and chose to stay and tried to move on if not Abhir’s health!
so from there to her confession was a slow progress where she slowly but completely fell in LOVE with Abhinav her husband and she don’t really have any feelings for her ex except that she is only trying to be nice with him as he was being nice to her too! she sees him as her kids bio dad! Even when in UD She always wanted to go back to her kasauli home !she only wants her happy family with Abhinav and Abhir in their kasauli nest!

As a neutral viewer or a person who just watch the show on tv and don’t come to IF or analyse the show deeper will only think that Akshara loves her husband Abhinav! Because she confessed her feelings openly ,hugs him ,and feels comfortable with him ,their forehead kiss! She can’t fake all these right ? At least I can’t think so low About Akshara who will fake her love to Abhinav for what ever reasons I don’t even know!
Don’t know what happens later , they may route to Abhira again but still Akshara loves:loved Abhinav !



What you wrote makes complete sense. Considering the current circumstances, Akshara Abhinav are the couple and makers can/should take their story forward. But then, you know that's the thing, Akshara as a character is extremely complicated, one moment you think you understand what she is thinking and then she'll go ahead and do the exact opposite. Her motivation to do what she does is so frustratingly difficult to understand but then you realise her heart is always in the right place, so you cannot really be angry at her also. And makers have willingly kept it that way, so that storylines can never be predicted because you never know what she'll do. It's hilarious and annoying at the same time. 😄


I am an Abhira stan, through and through but I would not mind seeing Akshara with Abhinav, if their story is carried out properly. :) It's just that I do no trust our girl very much. Lol.

Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: verve


Yeah there were two Dil ka rishta threads actually.. and I remember writing a long post in one of them sayin how that won't happen 🤣


As far as I see, makers have progressed Akshnav too far to bring back Abhira now. It's only a possibility under the circumstances of any tragedy or AN dying.. then too the reunion will be more like majboori than willingly.


So I've the idea of legacy cliff makin an entrance ☺️ If UD had cliffs at every corner then Kasauli mein to ho hi sakte hai 😂 Akshnav can go down the cliff & that way kids will stay with AB. I think that's the best midway of pleasing majority rn. And finally we can get rid of this gen or even better the show 😆


Vese by AK's redemption arc you mean for hiding Abhir's truth right... I feel she already lost her kid's custody which is harsh enough.

I personally don’t think ak did wrong in hiding truth from abhim…..if i was in her place I don’t want my kid with a person whose love is conditional and according to situation….his toxic fam is another plus….leave her at her lowest in his anger….never want such person near my kids….if he regret his actions and repent for them I would have considered….here that is not case he still feel only think he did wrong was taking sirat name…he asked sorry for that….how she is supposed to believe him again with her kid….

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: verve


Yeah there were two Dil ka rishta threads actually.. and I remember writing a long post in one of them sayin how that won't happen 🤣


As far as I see, makers have progressed Akshnav too far to bring back Abhira now. It's only a possibility under the circumstances of any tragedy or AN dying.. then too the reunion will be more like majboori than willingly.


So I've the idea of legacy cliff makin an entrance ☺️ If UD had cliffs at every corner then Kasauli mein to ho hi sakte hai 😂 Akshnav can go down the cliff & that way kids will stay with AB. I think that's the best midway of pleasing majority rn. And finally we can get rid of this gen or even better the show 😆


Vese by AK's redemption arc you mean for hiding Abhir's truth right... I feel she already lost her kid's custody which is harsh enough.


Yes, hiding the truth from Abhimanyu even when my man was about to die. 💁🏻 Abhinav was also accountable there. But then, I do feel he is a decent man, isiliye ultimately he confessed to Abhimanyu. But Akshara, girl you need to have an absurd amount of hate for someone to pull off something like that. And she needs to process that, in my opinion. It doesn't mean she has to go back to Abhimanyu, it just means she needs to process that for her own character growth.


And yes, it was quite heartbreaking to see Akshara today. Pranali gave a stellar performance. 💗


And your idea does seem to be the perfect dessert to this khichdi that we are being served. 🤭😄 But I do want Harshad even in the next generation if I am to continue with YRKKH. The guy makes me go weak in the knees. What a brilliant actor!🤌🏻✨

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: randomdino

Dekho, I am reiterating again that I have no issues with Akshara moving on with her life along with Abhinav. In fact if that's the route makers are taking, they should let Akshara and Abhinav's love story take the centre stage and slowly phase Abhimanyu out. She has all the rights to move forward, especially after how Abhimanyu broke her trust. It's just hard to believe that considering how Akshara is written as a character.


Peace. ♥️


I really liked how you put across your point in this thread 👍🏼


But I will focus on the last paragraph in particular - I see no signs of any love story being central right now. Akshnav are together as a couple but that still doesn’t make them look like the central figures of the story. Abhimanyu’s love for Akshara still stands out starkly even when she’s looking through him and barely giving him regard as a human being. Abhir remains a strong link tying Abhira together even as their paths have diverged otherwise in life.

The line that has stayed with me from one of the recent scenes is Manjiri telling Akshara that she has compelled everyone to live incomplete lives. This stands just as true today also even after Akshara has been shown making more physical overtures towards Nav as a wife. Her words and actions don’t match because she sounds like she’s role playing a wife rather than being a wife. On top of that the way she keeps repeating these stock lines of “my perfect family, we three will go back to Kasauli”, she sounds more like someone who is terrified of a facade falling apart than someone trying to hold together a family out of love.

Akshara doesn’t seem reliable or trustworthy because she comes across as a desperately escapist person who will do all kinds of things to deny facing the truth and after messing up things on extreme levels, she flips and starts begging for forgiveness and understanding from everyone without any real cognition of the damage her escapism causes.


She has spent 6 years building her life around Abhir and justifying the extreme things she’s done in her vengeance and grudges against Abhi. So remains to be seen if anything shifts in her after losing Abhir’s custody.

Posted: 2 years ago
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I agree with your points, but I think Ak loves Abhinav. She loves him in a very different way than she loved Abhi, though, and I doubt she can ever love anyone the way she loved Abhi. Both Abhi and Ak loved each other beyond all barriers and have held that from the beginning. But they also have ridiculous expectations from each other and basically broke each other, so now their characters are wildly different from the OG Abhi and Ak.


Akshnav love is different. There are barely, if any, expectations here. Ak's only expectation from Nav is to remain the same with her as he has for the six years. She knows his limits and has accepted them before she fell in love with him. Even if he says something that should hurt her, it doesn't because she doesn't have the same expectations from him. Nav as well has barely any expectations from Ak, and his only expectation is that she continues to be his wife and remains within those boundaries...which is a very low expectation from a spouse.


Abhira were a toxic couple, not just because of Abhi or just because of Ak, but because of both of them and in part because of the intensity of their love. I don;t see them getting back together ever, after the writers proving how wrong they are for each other at every turn. So even if Akshnav have a medium love story that doesnt take center stage and doesnt seem like the epic love story Abhira had, it is still a love story and it is still what I see continuing.


Of course, it began with their love for Abhir. So without him in the picture, there are bound to be some cracks. We will see what they show us next, lol.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar


I really liked how you put across your point in this thread 👍🏼


But I will focus on the last paragraph in particular - I see no signs of any love story being central right now. Akshnav are together as a couple but that still doesn’t make them look like the central figures of the story. Abhimanyu’s love for Akshara still stands out starkly even when she’s looking through him and barely giving him regard as a human being. Abhir remains a strong link tying Abhira together even as their paths have diverged otherwise in life.

The line that has stayed with me from one of the recent scenes is Manjiri telling Akshara that she has compelled everyone to live incomplete lives. This stands just as true today also even after Akshara has been shown making more physical overtures towards Nav as a wife. Her words and actions don’t match because she sounds like she’s role playing a wife rather than being a wife. On top of that the way she keeps repeating these stock lines of “my perfect family, we three will go back to Kasauli”, she sounds more like someone who is terrified of a facade falling apart than someone trying to hold together a family out of love.

Akshara doesn’t seem reliable or trustworthy because she comes across as a desperately escapist person who will do all kinds of things to deny facing the truth and after messing up things on extreme levels, she flips and starts begging for forgiveness and understanding from everyone without any real cognition of the damage her escapism causes.


She has spent 6 years building her life around Abhir and justifying the extreme things she’s done in her vengeance and grudges against Abhi. So remains to be seen if anything shifts in her after losing Abhir’s custody.


Extremely well put. :)


Also, Akshara in love is a different sight to behold. Abhinav and Akshara seems more like friends who are there for each other. Even the recent physical intimacy doesn't evoke feelings of love from Akshara's end. It all still seems very platonic to me. She is very insecurely attached to this idea of perfect family and will go to any length to play out her part in maintaining that. That is why I was saying, that if they are to make Abhinav and Akshara the IT couple, they have to develop their love story in a more nuanced way.


Surely, it doesn't help that Harshad plays Abhimanyu, when it comes to hating the guy. 🥲 The man plays his part to perfection. His unfathomable love for Akshara, his dilemmas for which he seeks constant guidance from his Mahadev, his regrets for the life that could have been his, his anger which ruined the most precious part of his life, his affection and care towards Abhir, it's all portrayed so well by Harshad.


Akshara as a character is written so poorly that the one thing that stands out about her, is Abhimanyu's love for her. That's the one constant in her life, that Abhimanyu will always, always love her. Rest everything is temporary, because she is so gullible. Which should not be the case. Write her well. Give her a strong POV. Show her falling in love with Abhinav, wholeheartedly, and not out of some sense of duty.


Doesn't matter if she is with Abhinav or Abhimanyu, Akshara needs a redemption desperately.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: lagjagale

I agree with your points, but I think Ak loves Abhinav. She loves him in a very different way than she loved Abhi, though, and I doubt she can ever love anyone the way she loved Abhi. Both Abhi and Ak loved each other beyond all barriers and have held that from the beginning. But they also have ridiculous expectations from each other and basically broke each other, so now their characters are wildly different from the OG Abhi and Ak.


Akshnav love is different. There are barely, if any, expectations here. Ak's only expectation from Nav is to remain the same with her as he has for the six years. She knows his limits and has accepted them before she fell in love with him. Even if he says something that should hurt her, it doesn't because she doesn't have the same expectations from him. Nav as well has barely any expectations from Ak, and his only expectation is that she continues to be his wife and remains within those boundaries...which is a very low expectation from a spouse.


Abhira were a toxic couple, not just because of Abhi or just because of Ak, but because of both of them and in part because of the intensity of their love. I don;t see them getting back together ever, after the writers proving how wrong they are for each other at every turn. So even if Akshnav have a medium love story that doesnt take center stage and doesnt seem like the epic love story Abhira had, it is still a love story and it is still what I see continuing.


Of course, it began with their love for Abhir. So without him in the picture, there are bound to be some cracks. We will see what they show us next, lol.


I understand what you are saying. However I do feel that every love story is special and it deserves to be told in a beautiful way. You are very right in pointing out, Akshara and Abhinav's love is different but it doesn't mean its any less special. It need it's own trajectory - Case in point: Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. You understand Nandini's POV. In fact towards the end, although its heartbreaking to see Sameer but you understand why Nandini chooses Vanraj and you root for her, you root for them.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: randomdino


I understand what you are saying. However I do feel that every love story is special and it deserves to be told in a beautiful way. You are very right in pointing out, Akshara and Abhinav's love is different but it doesn't mean its any less special. It need it's own trajectory - Case in point: Hum Dil De Chuke Sanam. You understand Nandini's POV. In fact towards the end, although its heartbreaking see Sameer but you understand why Nandini chooses Vanraj and you root for her, you root for them.

I agree with this, I also understand abhira stans POV ( if they are polite and don’t trash abhinav unnecessarily), they started for a ship and instead of that if the story takes a turn it’s heartbreaking. I was never into abhira in the first place, so iam enjoying the slow burn of akshnav but I still don’t completely trust the makers to not change the trajectory again after all it’s still their story.

My aunt and mom, we’re legacy yrkkh viewers, they gave up during kaira phase but they have started watching after akshnav story started, it reminded them of OG akshara and naitk and they seemed more relatable to that demographic. I learnt it recently during a family call when all of them started talking about it. I was amused,

I like HC as an actor but never liked abhimanyu. It’s hard these days to find a character like abhinav, so as long as he stays I will watch.I wish to see HC in a diff show or web series,

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: randomdino


Extremely well put. :)


Also, Akshara in love is a different sight to behold. Abhinav and Akshara seems more like friends who are there for each other. Even the recent physical intimacy doesn't evoke feelings of love from Akshara's end. It all still seems very platonic to me. She is very insecurely attached to this idea of perfect family and will go to any length to play out her part in maintaining that. That is why I was saying, that if they are to make Abhinav and Akshara the IT couple, they have to develop their love story in a more nuanced way.


Surely, it doesn't help that Harshad plays Abhimanyu, when it comes to hating the guy. 🥲 The man plays his part to perfection. His unfathomable love for Akshara, his dilemmas for which he seeks constant guidance from his Mahadev, his regrets for the life that could have been his, his anger which ruined the most precious part of his life, his affection and care towards Abhir, it's all portrayed so well by Harshad.


Akshara as a character is written so poorly that the one thing that stands out about her, is Abhimanyu's love for her. That's the one constant in her life, that Abhimanyu will always, always love her. Rest everything is temporary, because she is so gullible. Which should not be the case. Write her well. Give her a strong POV. Show her falling in love with Abhinav, wholeheartedly, and not out of some sense of duty.


Doesn't matter if she is with Abhinav or Abhimanyu, Akshara needs a redemption desperately.


Thanks! :)


And you've made some great points here again as well!


@bold: That's it in a nutshell....the writing for her character is non-existent and whatever little exists is flipped around by makers for contrived plot twists or story dragging.


You're right about Abhimanyu's love for her being that one constant stand out about her.....probably cuz Abhimanyu himself is the kind of character who doesn't know how to stop loving - unfathomable is a great way to put it but that is precisely what it gives it that otherwordly feeling....his is a love that survives even when all the forces in the world are working to tear it down....this would not happen with any regular kind of love to be able to withstand all these forces. They both literally got torn apart 6 years ago and so much has changed since then but his love for her remains unchanged.....his ability to love her even after she has driven him to his wit's end a 100 times😆....I really find that remarkable. His ability to feel for her as a parent when she never gave him even an iota of regard for the longest time....that is what makes his love more unfathomable. What kind of a man would be able to maintain that love in his heart even after all doors have been shut in his face? The very fact that he doesn't hide from the truth of his love and his emotions ultimately compels most people to face their truths.


As you put it beautifully, he seeks answers to his dilemmas, has the courage to express regret for his mitakes rather than trying to bury and suppress all his emotions - that is something Akshara does and that is why she is a much harder character to comprehend.


Coming to Akshnav....I don't think they have anything in them to be able to be the "IT" couple as per where the story stands. If that was the intention of the makers, they would have evolved them via a proper love story of showing that phase of attraction building up as their emotions shift....but what was shown onscreen very much gave the impression of an Akshara rushing to assure him as a wife by constantly hugging him, holding his hand to make him feel like he has the whole family picture in the form of a wife as well. Again, the bar is not simply Abhira when it comes to Akshara in love....lol if the makers wanted, they could still show her feeling attraction organically for a new guy and build that attraction in a different way....every relationship doesn't need the same level of passion, understood....but please atleast make some effort to show a basic level of attraction between a couple rather than these role playing type actions....lol makers just haven't done that for these two so I don't feel they will amount to anything much more than this.....this is their plateau as a pair and after this, even if makers continue to keep them together, there is nothing more to explore....even having a baby will feel like a technicality rather than any outcome of a proper love story.


Which is why to me the signs for Abhira still remain even if makers are playing their double game....lol simply the act of an Abhi still rushing to hold her as she's falling shows that love lives on through Abhimanyu and until that exists, the path back to them always remains open along with the child that will always deeply link them no matter how much Akshara tries to enforce alternate fantasies....lol


I'm not even expecting any proper redemption from Akshara per se cuz I know how low the bar is with the writing for her character....lol but I'm just saying that no one should count out her tendency to flip no matter what impression of being in love she is currently giving with full conviction😆....her track record is not reliable one bit😆

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: saa2929

I agree with this, I also understand abhira stans POV ( if they are polite and don’t trash abhinav unnecessarily), they started for a ship and instead of that if the story takes a turn it’s heartbreaking. I was never into abhira in the first place, so iam enjoying the slow burn of akshnav but I still don’t completely trust the makers to not change the trajectory again after all it’s still their story.

My aunt and mom, we’re legacy yrkkh viewers, they gave up during kaira phase but they have started watching after akshnav story started, it reminded them of OG akshara and naitk and they seemed more relatable to that demographic. I learnt it recently during a family call when all of them started talking about it. I was amused,

I like HC as an actor but never liked abhimanyu. It’s hard these days to find a character like abhinav, so as long as he stays I will watch.I wish to see HC in a diff show or web series,


You are so right in pointing out that Akshara Abhinav do resemble Akshara Naitik to an extent. But then again, I remember how beautifully their love story was developed. I hope they do the same for these folks if Akshara and Abhinav are here to stay.


I know man, I so wish Harshad bags a good project with Netflix or something. His calibre is just something else.

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