Pseudo Progressive Narrative

This episode (7th May) was decent ...the screenplay rn is fine

1) Atleast for me the makers have pretty much clarified Abhira r their endgame...u see surekha dialogue....she was mostly dropping truth bombs on goenkas ...things they should've realised themselves ages ago...She had one dialogue where she said on Indian families people stay in loveless marriages due to societal stigmas...there has been a whole lot of discussion here on the forum that without abhinav dying Akshara can't return to abhimanyu because Nav is AA... he's been kind nd nice nd respectful... Therefore AK going back to Nav might not be accepted by the TRP audience which might still be traditional ...so here is the makers answer to that... They're being progressive by showing that it's okay if u wanna leave a loveless marriage even if ur partner is an angel...but again this just a sham ...coz abhimanyu rn is hardly redeemable...u don't get out of a loveless marriage to go to a person like AbhiM...

3) What's with swarna nd her passive have s*x with Nav...jyada hi progressive hogya ITV.... honestly it's a little awkward....i wouldn't want my grandma to give me a s*x talk 🙂🙂

2) Just curious who did the custody case promo says AbhiM nd Precap says Akshara

Originally posted by: DevilHere

This episode (7th May) was decent ...the screenplay rn is fine

1) Atleast for me the makers have pretty much clarified Abhira r their endgame...u see surekha dialogue....she was mostly dropping truth bombs on goenkas ...things they should've realised themselves ages ago...She had one dialogue where she said on Indian families people stay in loveless marriages due to societal stigmas...there has been a whole lot of discussion here on the forum that without abhinav dying Akshara can't return to abhimanyu because Nav is AA... he's been kind nd nice nd respectful... Therefore AK going back to Nav might not be accepted by the TRP audience which might still be traditional ...so here is the makers answer to that... They're being progressive by showing that it's okay if u wanna leave a loveless marriage even if ur partner is an angel...but again this just a sham ...coz abhimanyu rn is hardly redeemable...u don't get out of a loveless marriage to go to a person like AbhiM...

3) What's with swarna nd her passive have s*x with Nav...jyada hi progressive hogya ITV.... honestly it's a little awkward....i wouldn't want my grandma to give me a s*x talk 🙂🙂

2) Just curious who did the custody case promo says AbhiM nd Precap says Akshara

1. US chachi dialogues about the 4 people being currently unhappy & the 2 of them freeing the other two was right, but her progressive bhashan on loveless marriage was absolute shit. Yep it's the reality of multitude of marriages in India, but when in the same show the grandest & greatest love marriage of all time ended so brutally, her gyaan feels completely out of place.

2. Why at this pt. of time out of all the revelations people found discussing AkshNav's sex life the most imp. issue is beyond many. Even if they didn't consummate, it doesn't change their marital status & doesn't take away Nav's legal father rights on Abhir. Basically it changes nothing. It's not like Nav is demanding it, so why's it being discussed I too don't understand. Whatever humiliation & embarrassment that came with Ak blurting her bedroom secrets can't be undone by sleeping together now.. or are Gs planning to phone Bs & tell them their granddaughter & jamaisaa finally did the deed!?

3. Ak can do whatever she wishes to do. She can one fine day tell Nav that "I'm incapable of loving you & am returning to my soul-lover ex. Thanks for all you've done. Really appreciate it. You can be a part of Abhir's life but I'm freeing you from this marriage. Hope you find someone too."

Will trp audience accept this?

I think let the trp audience decide.

I've seen huge, baseless claims made every wk. on trp thread regarding what'll be accepted or rejected. As per people's opinions trp audience will also not accept Ak moving on bcos Manyu was an angel husband butchered for leap on white day; or audience won't accept the narrative of palnewala > janamwala father; or if fala track were shown trp would become 3+, and so on...

And I'll repeat what I said on trp thread - that clearly no one here comprehends trp system better than PH who's been in this business for decades. So yeah long story short, ckts. gonna behave the way makers seem fit for fetching trps & tracks in a SP show are never neither pseudo nor fully progressive. Its reuse, recycle of same plots in all shows.

Totally agree with your points was just pointing out that makers know how to convince there dear TRP audience hence the whole AK is in a loveless marriage, the marriage is not consummated , it's just mutual respect and friendship between AkshNav narrative r being pushed now so that it doesn't look bad when Abhira reunite....I guess I've said this already according to me the TRP being stagnant can only be credited to the lazy writing and awful screenplay rn...the episodes were a little repetitive otherwise this track should technically bring them TRPs as it's one of the high drama points in the story...

As for Nav legal right... isn't his name on the Birth Certificate so legally he's Abhir dad...for Ak or AbhiM to file any sort of custody case they need to acknowledge AbhiM as the legal and biological father but i guess ITV doesn't go into such nuances...

I do disagree here that it's a loveless marriage (I mean the romantic kind)..it shouldn't just be about consummation even on an emotional level these two haven't progressed in their relationship... u can have a lot of friends that r very nice help you out with anything or everything nd there's mutual respect and camaraderie but those r not the same feelings u have for your partner

AK mentioned that she had a fear if she'll loose that friendship and respect with Nav if there relationship progressed which i think AK related to her marriage with AbhiM...but those r very valid fears...both of them r trying to move on...AK definitely tried in kasauli but what if she fails ...what if she can't feel romantically about nav... it's gonna be hella awkward coz they can't go back to their status quo but can't move forward

I honestly think it doesn't matter how they present the story now. Fds are already too divided. People who want to see Abhira are going to accept it even if there's no genuine redemption arc bcos they're tired of waiting from 4-5 mts. People who started watching for Sharma family, or have grown to like Nav will never be onboard Abhira reunion no matter whatever reasoning they give. Nav & Manyu are polar contrasts. So people supporting the 2 ckts. can never be on the same pg.

I too think Ak blurting her bedroom secrets is done purposefully to declare her chastity to Bs & nullify her progress with Nav.

As to trps, I've no idea how much trp such a track should generate or if during ipl stable trps is the only goal cvs are focusing on... but I'll say what I personally find offputting - It is the lack of consistency.

One day Ak is scared of Ab, another day she's all bold claiming legal actions.

One day Manyu shows an ounce of guilt, another day he's back to zidd.

One day Nav is shown angry with Manyu, another day back to bhaiji.

One day Goenkas are all about togetherness of family, another day they start questioning their granddaughter in front of Manju.

I hate to say it but Manju is the only consistent ckt. here & I can only predict her actions n understand them from real-life examples of people like her.

Woh. Til that an abused and abandoned woman finding a new companion in a decent man was "traditional" and going back to her abusive, remorseless ex husband for the sake of her biological child is very progressive.

Going back to ur ex leave your 6 yrs of marriage that too who supported you in a tough situation is sound very progressive.

Just to clarify i never said what's progressive and what's regressive...i personally think that's the narrative the makers r pushing for that since the AkshNav marriage is only namesake for Abhir it's okay for her to get out of that relationship...i personally think that's how they'll justify the abhira reunion (Again personal thoughts i don't think AkshNav r endgame)...even in this forum we've had discussion how it might be difficult for the traditional itv audience to accept AkshNav divorce coz of how good Nav is so I think makers r pushing for their seperation in a nicely packed progressive garb

If u r asking me for my personal opinion i don't think staying with either of the men is okay(given akshnav never develop beyond friendship)... it's a loveless marriage nd staying in that is unfair to both the partners and AbhiM can hardly be called a good partner rn so going with him is total no no... ideally AK should get out of her marriage give herself a chance to move on nd find love or companionship with whoever she can ...same for abhinav( Khair this is ITV such things would probably apply irl...i personally think abhira is endgame nd therefore I'm hoping for a proper redemption track for AbhiM.. let's see how it goes)

Originally posted by: DevilHere

Just to clarify i never said what's progressive and what's regressive...i personally think that's the narrative the makers r pushing for that since the AkshNav marriage is only namesake for Abhir it's okay for her to get out of that relationship...i personally think that's how they'll justify the abhira reunion (Again personal thoughts i don't think AkshNav r endgame)...even in this forum we've had discussion how it might be difficult for the traditional itv audience to accept AkshNav divorce coz of how good Nav is so I think makers r pushing for their seperation in a nicely packed progressive garb

If u r asking me for my personal opinion i don't think staying with either of the men is okay(given akshnav never develop beyond friendship)... it's a loveless marriage nd staying in that is unfair to both the partners and AbhiM can hardly be called a good partner rn so going with him is total no no... ideally AK should get out of her marriage give herself a chance to move on nd find love or companionship with whoever she can ...same for abhinav( Khair this is ITV such things would probably apply irl...i personally think abhira is endgame nd therefore I'm hoping for a proper redemption track for AbhiM.. let's see how it goes)

Loveless marriage is far better than the love marriage which leads to two times divorce. See I also don't want to discuss about progressive or regressive. But marriage is not game & human is not a toy. Here they get married then part away within few months, then again get married then part away, then AK put a random guy to father place for Abhir, she ritually get married. Abhinav & Ruhi is not a toy ki hamara koi favorite toy gum ho gaya hai to hum kisi aur toy se dil bahla le aur achank se wo toy hame wapas mil jaye to hum usko bhool jaye. Humans have emotions. Akshara had cleared he can't be his husband & for Abhinav it was enough to being Abhir father. So no issue if another person is ready to do so.

My point is if she was not ready to move on then she should not have to get married, or Abhir should have know about all story. Kisi k sath 6 saal rah kar usko ex ki wajah se chodna is not wise. Ye koi narrative nahi hai. Aur poori lifetime shaadi nahi kar sakte na so better to concentrate on her present or kya sief physical relation hi to nahi hai baki sub to hai na ek rishte k liye itna hi kafi hai. Now she do not love Abhimanyu to uske paas bhi kya karne jayegi? As badi ma said she can't leave this relationship.

If people would have revolted this much during s2 they would have got some punya for saving us from this crap. 😆

In s2 ppl had no complaints when karthik married thrice, naira ran away again and again now they know ppl are okay with it so continuing the same.

S2 logon ko agar pehle hi problem ho jathi toh atleast hum toh yaha nahi hothe. Maine jo show dekha hai usme atleast aisa crap dikhana toh door himmat bhi nahi karthe the coz trp totally gir jaath3 thi. Yrkkh seems to be a circus rishton ka mazaak toh s2 se udathe aarahe hai. Ab isme naya kya hai 😆