Let's talk about Abhir. And Abhimanyu today. - Page 3

Abhimanyu argues about he may be bad at everything but not a bad father. But the way he is treating Ruhi clearly shows he is a bad father as well. In the past when Ruhi was crying about Abhimanyu not being the real father, she wanted a real father & all. He gave in to the demands instead of explaining to her about their relationship. Now the same Abhimanyu is ignoring her at every step and making her suffer after promising to be her real father.

About Abhir, what to say. Him giving expensive gifts to Abhir is a way of luring Abhir to be with him. This does not make him a good father. Good parenting is done by Abhinav & Akshara.

Precap is worrisome. This mother-son duo will pounce on Akshara Abhinav and their happiness now. Sharma family does not deserve this.

Originally posted by: DevilHere

Tbh had he apologized she would've given in..i doubt that highly that' all an assumption...the only time she actually said she's okay is when confronted him about birthday party fiasco nd the next day she's running from the camp coz coincidently abhim is there...but why did they not invite him in the first place...why did nav who's AA nd sarcasm aside actually being the most flexible of the three go to abhiM the way he went the time of Puja nd say it's abhir b'day let's plan it together...i only mentioned going back to Kasauli coz ak motive of moving back to kasauli is to keep abhiM nd abhir away... ideally all of them can stay at their places nd make some arrangements...Ak didn't just not tell abhiM the truth for 6 years she was actively trying to hide the truth...nd if we're gonna dissect every expression of abhiM why not with ak it's a matter of perception all I saw was him being happy his son ran to him.....has ak respected his right as abhir dad that u expect the same courtesy to be extended towards her nd nav....nd like i mentioned abhiM never really challenged their claim on abhir.....why just see the negatives nd only concentrate on them tbh didn't he change the b'day card coz he didn't wanna spoil abhir b'day .... atleast I never saw abhiM saying u have no haq to all...tbh he never said that to nav too that u r not abhir father...ak has been throwing the u r not his father taunt for long...If you wish to judge abhiM for saying this is not the last time he's taken abhir with him...why not judge ak for her tone nd being we're responsible parents nd all mein kyun btau ....if abhiM wants to take abhir for a trip without them later would ak allow.....why not see ak zidd.... wasn't abhiM the one who attempted to talk it out at the bus stop....but she shut him up saying I'm a mother ik better...nd he was like u left no scope for discussion

I like how you have put the entire scenario. Totally one should not pick sides here. Both are at fault and hell bent on not listening to each other. First of all Ak is wrong through and through. After Abhi got to know the truth she is just throwing on his face that you have no right on him. I mean how? Also when he tried to talk to her to workout the solution I think he was thinking about Co-parenting then also she shut him down. I know there are personal differences but that doesn’t mean you will deprive a father from his Son. That is so unjust and not fair.

I agree with all that u said about ak being the wronged party in the events of the white day...nd i also agree abhi owes her atleast an apology even if she's moved on nd he can't get her back in her life....nd totally agree that abhiM insisting on Abhir staying in Udaipur will be wrong...Sharma fam has their entire life setup there (but let's just discuss this when the actual scene comes up in the show)...but i still maintain that she can still be super mad at abhiM nd they can keep having their issue but both need to behave for the sake of their child..... again it's all a matter of perception...I perceived that scene as him being like see my child loves me nd runs to me .... I'm not hurting him like you said.....for you it was he's smirking....for you ak had no problem with abhiM nd abhir spending time but i can't recall a single instance she's let them spend time nd has not done it begrudgingly..... although she's coming from a place of hurt nd that's why I don't blame her.... ak is being way more disrespectful if u were u make a comparison rn....it all depends how u see it maybe if ak wasn't so adamant on keeping them away abhiM wouldn't be driven to his zidd(this is all a game of what ifs nd we will never get answers for those nd that' why I don't wanna base this discussion on those what ifs)

Originally posted by: livelytanu

Abhimanyu argues about he may be bad at everything but not a bad father. But the way he is treating Ruhi clearly shows he is a bad father as well. In the past when Ruhi was crying about Abhimanyu not being the real father, she wanted a real father & all. He gave in to the demands instead of explaining to her about their relationship. Now the same Abhimanyu is ignoring her at every step and making her suffer after promising to be her real father.

About Abhir, what to say. Him giving expensive gifts to Abhir is a way of luring Abhir to be with him. This does not make him a good father. Good parenting is done by Abhinav & Akshara.

Precap is worrisome. This mother-son duo will pounce on Akshara Abhinav and their happiness now. Sharma family does not deserve this.

Let that mata pouch now if she goes beyond them ak might pounch on mata herself.

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

First of all, usually adopted parents do not tell such young kids about their biological parents. In a realistic situation, they will wait a bit for Abhir to grow up or tell him the truth. And Abhimanyu can always be present in his life. Why they do not want to tell Abhir is I feel because of Abhimanyu. It is time and again shown that Abhir js a sensible child but one has to be really scared of Abhimanyu. The one thing that is stopping him right now is Manjari and Abhir not knowing the truth.

That is the thing about love, right? Is it even love when you are only thinking about yourself and what you want and expecting the other person to behave exactly the way you want. Or expecting the other person to treat you just like how you treat them. It does feel like a prison which Akshara identified clearly. So, I don't think what he is feeling is even love. It is something that he is using to fill the void in his life because he has made himself believe his is a victim and has trauma bigger than anyone else. I think it is a typical behaviour of a privileged male in our society.

Yes, I understand they wait, but I don't think they should wait any longer since Abhi already knows the truth. I think they need to come out and tell him first, in a mature manner, before it's revealed it a terrible way by anyone else.

Love can honestly come in all forms. Yes, he is a privileged male and acts like it. But I think it's also his trauma and not having a good role model for love. His role model is his mother, who kept loving a guy who treated her horribly. He does get way more involved than the other person - thinks about them constantly, wants them in his life immediately, etc. It doesn't mean that it's not love, it's a possessive, demanding kind of love that a lot of people experience. He tries his best to keep the people he loves happy as well. Even with Ak, beyond the big stuff (Manjari accident, Neil's truth, Anisha death, Kairav issue, Neil's death ), he always came around. But the thing is a lack of empathy and understanding, to him, it was Ak did something wrong, and he forgives her rather than looking at things from her perspective.

Originally posted by: Ekahriz

Abhir is an amazing kid. And all the credit goes to his mumma and papa for raising him so. Akshara loves him so blindly like any other mom but she never backs down when he needs a good scolding. And Abhinav is Abhir's strength. He is a fun parent where Abhir plays and enjoys with him, but Abhinav also knows when to say no to Abhir. And that is the difference between parents and the fun cool relatives. For instances, My nephew and niece is obsessed with me. Because I am the fun, young aunt who plays with them, let them do whatever they want, take them out etc. But do they love me more than their parents? Of course not, I am not delusional. They run to me when they get scolded or get upset with their parents and they go back as fast because I am not their mom or dad. This is definitely the same attachment Abhir is feeling towards Abhimanyu. And the warmth I felt in my heart when Abhir took his extended hand back and said, oh this is my papa's cake and ran back to Abhinav. That was a true emotional moment for me in this show after a long time.

Now, let's talk about Ruhi. She is a really cute kid but extremely spoilt. She hasn't heard no from anyone until recently when Abhimanyu decided to postpone the wedding. Even a small scolding she gets from Aarohi, she runs to her Deeda or Poppy complaining about her matasree. And not just to Abhir, even to Ruhi, Abhimanyu still acts as the fun cool uncle because he never corrects or parents her. He just fulfils all her whims. I have never seen a scene between Abhimanyu and Ruhi where he is like a dad to her. He is always paying with her, buying her gifts or doing her homework and if someone scolds her, he just pampers her more and more.

Now, shall we talk about the villian of the show aka the real bachcha chor 😆

Let's talk about the scene where Abhimanyu think of Akshara's words where she says you will end up hurting Abhir as well and then he thinks about how happy Abhir was spending time with him and then Abhir would accept him but Abhir did choose his papa over docman. This reminds me of an old scene. After the mandir scene, Abhimanyu is thrown out from the Goenka house, he reluctantly leaves and while he walks on the road barefoot, he is giddily happy that Akshara finally accepted her love for him and he thinks that his Akshu might be feeling the same. But she wasn't. She was far away from it. She was upset that she made her bade papa lose his face and hurt him considerably and broke her sister's wedding. She wasn't thinking of Abhimanyu at all. That's how delusional Abhimanyu is and still hasn't changed. Even when he is in his 40s now. When he loves, only he exists and his thoughts exists. No one else. The only exception would be his mom.

Because we saw today how he even forgot Ruhi.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Yes, I understand they wait, but I don't think they should wait any longer since Abhi already knows the truth. I think they need to come out and tell him first, in a mature manner, before it's revealed it a terrible way by anyone else.

Love can honestly come in all forms. Yes, he is a privileged male and acts like it. But I think it's also his trauma and not having a good role model for love. His role model is his mother, who kept loving a guy who treated her horribly. He does get way more involved than the other person - thinks about them constantly, wants them in his life immediately, etc. It doesn't mean that it's not love, it's a possessive, demanding kind of love that a lot of people experience. He tries his best to keep the people he loves happy as well. Even with Ak, beyond the big stuff (Manjari accident, Neil's truth, Anisha death, Kairav issue, Neil's death ), he always came around. But the thing is a lack of empathy and understanding, to him, it was Ak did something wrong, and he forgives her rather than looking at things from her perspective.

Originally posted by: lagjagale

Love can honestly come in all forms. Yes, he is a privileged male and acts like it. But I think it's also his trauma and not having a good role model for love. His role model is his mother, who kept loving a guy who treated her horribly. He does get way more involved than the other person - thinks about them constantly, wants them in his life immediately, etc. It doesn't mean that it's not love, it's a possessive, demanding kind of love that a lot of people experience. He tries his best to keep the people he loves happy as well. Even with Ak, beyond the big stuff (Manjari accident, Neil's truth, Anisha death, Kairav issue, Neil's death ), he always came around. But the thing is a lack of empathy and understanding, to him, it was Ak did something wrong, and he forgives her rather than looking at things from her perspective.

I am not here to start a fight.. but...

going by this definition of AbhiM's love, there is a chance that Ak must have genuinely felt his love was like 'umar qaid' right?

Sorry but I am trying to provide a balanced view and trying to understand where these characters are coming from. If you want to view the show simply as this person is right and this person is wrong, you definitely can. But I am trying to understand the characters and that is what my post suggests. I am not glorifying anyone or trying to hide their mistakes. I am just saying what I think the reasons are for their actions. I am not justifying Abhi, just trying to understand the character.

I don't understand why anything that isn't just insulting a character is seen as support for that character? Yes, he does love Ak and yes she loved him too. He doesn't know how to love people or where the boundaries are etc.

Originally posted by: umawanderer

I am not here to start a fight.. but...

going by this definition of AbhiM's love, there is a chance that Ak must have genuinely felt his love was like 'umar qaid' right?

Why would that start a fight ? Lol.

Yeah I think so, Ak has been very clear about Abhi since the leap. His love is possessive and controlling, but I think she is also trying to hurt him cause she was hurt and still holding onto that.

The reason why I am saying this is because a lot of people still believe Abhira are going to be back together. When that happens how are they going to explain it ? Will Abhi have changed by then ? Or will Ak be ready to go back to umar qaid ?

Also, I think more than umar qaid his love is like a golden prison for the singing bird. He tried to give her everything to make her happy, but he still didn't allow her to be free. He wanted her to follow him in everything and love him just like he loved her.

Honestly, I think Abhi is a great grey character and would have loved to see a shoe with him and an equally grey FL. I wish they brought a new actress for Abhi who would be just as possessive and toxic towards him. I think Arohi could have filled that space if they had a better actress and they didn't try to whitewash her so much.