Acha Aadmi? - Page 3

Originally posted by: Agni_Jytsona

Yes. Abhinav is a good friend, a good husband, and a great father

For six long years, he had fulfilled every responsibility of a friend, husband, and father. In return never expected anything. Never exerted his rights on Akshara.

They were married on paper only. It's not like Ashkara wanted to leave and he prevented it.

So, How exactly did he trap her?

He wasn’t a husband during their 6yrs because they were neither emotionally involved nor physically - as you said it was a paper marriage. So does living together and providing monetary support make him a good husband? It definitely makes him a decent person for keeping his side of deal and respecting boundaries that they agreed. From what writers have shown they get along well and resolve their differences quite amicably. But I think this is because they weren’t emotionally involved. They do have compatible personalities. But in my opinion when you start to get involved with a person, dynamics of the relationship do change. So good husband? - he could be eventually but I don’t think they are there yet.

Good friend? - that was the second point of my post. In my view, they are at best flat mates who share a house, finances and a kid together (🤦🏻‍♀️) but given their aloofness for 6 years - are they even good friends yet? They hardly knew each other during the 6 years and Ak is probably opening up to him in past few episodes.

So he has been a good father, good flat mate doing his part for the house and keeping boundaries with the other person as they agreed but does that make him a good friend and husband.

To his credit, he did tell Ak after Udaipur trip, that he should leave because their relationship is based on gratitude and this is what I mean. By agreeing to marry that day, he created an invisible barrier of debt and gratitude for Ak. Instead if he would have given her space, time and support to process her trauma and then if Ak and he wanted to marry, they would be in a real relationship rather than fake one. But he wasn’t thinking of Ak when he said yes, he was thinking about himself and his desire to keep the child.

I am not saying that Abhinav is evil and that this was his master plan from beginning. What I mean is that Ak was under trauma but he wasn’t so he could think with clear head and so his decision that day was selfish and something that emotionally trapped Ak - even though he didn’t intend to.

So now after 6 years of living together that too with a child involved, can Ak just walk away if she wanted to?

The intention of the post is neither anti-Nav nor pro-Abhira. It is what it says on the tin - about following two points :-

1) Abhinav’s reason to say yes to marrying Ak

2) He being a good friend and husband in 6 years?

I wanted to know what the views are on above.

Originally posted by: Sanju_9

See this is why I steer clear of ITV shows (god knows why I began watching this).. Makers never have a concrete script in mind before starting & have no pre-defined run time so tracks get added or scraped as per trp's convenience. It's clear when d makers thought of another leap, only then Nav's ckt got conceived. They came up with d idea of bringing in an orphan, kind, genuine, sunshine & happy-go-lucky guy. Few hints of what could be the traumatic events in his past were given like he talked of a failed relationship, prayed for forgiveness for his mistakes, didn't believe in god (until Abhir's birth) & deep down is v.fearful of losing his loved ones (that's y he keeps staring at d frames n nameplate). Now d main problem is that in d original post-leap plan it was supposed to be all about Abhira. Consequently it didn't make much sense to invest time on d past of a cameo ckt. Somewhere down d line makers changed their plan & decided to progress parallely with Sharma family. Rn they're testing trp waters to see if this plan will fare in d long run. Another possibility could be that writers are deliberately keeping his past under covers. Maybe after all paternity drama is over n makers don't go the way of Abhira reunion, then this ambiguous past will be d source of adding major drama. Just like in Pama, they made d track of choti Anu being an orphan a means of bringing in Maya n splitting d leads. That's also dkp's ki dimaag ki upaj so who knows they might be having a similar plotline in their store here as well. .(Gosh didn't mean to write such a long post. No idea why I'm putting so much sincerity into understanding something in which d writers themselves don't put any sincerity. Really appreciate it if someone reached d end 🙏)..Yep wait ventured in some other direction & didn't answer d original question 😅 I think on Abhir's birth he bonded too deeply with d child. Maybe he saw in him an abandoned child like himself & instantly had a soft spot for him. Or maybe when he took Abhir in his arms he finally felt d peace of having someone. Whatever it was it's v.much clear that he made d decision in that very moment with total emotions n no long-term reasoning, just like Ak. After that when they began living together as a family he wasn't the kind of guy to turn his back just bcos Ak wasn't willing to sleep with him. Plus his feelings for Ak grew very gradually. There was a dialogue that his love for Ak was like how a cat sneaks into d kitchen, he didn't mean it to happen it just happened. I feel they'd spent several good yrs in a platonic marriage that's why he was so hesitant to open up to Ak about his feelings.

Yes, I think they have deliberately added some scenes about his past but left them open for future plot convenience.

And Abhinav’s decision to marry was only for the child without considering Ak or any other implications. I don’t know why this point gets overshadowed by his other acts of kindness. All his other acts do not make this decision right.

I kind of disagree. Nav didn't even know Abhir but still did everything for Ak up to and including getting her to the hospital in terrible conditions and then staying with her child and making sure he didn't die until his mother woke up. Nav was also not in his right mind when he accepted the tag of fatherji, he had been up for four days and scared out of his mind and bonded with this kid.

Honestly, I keep trying to imagine Abhi in that situation, and my understanding is that he would be so caught up with Ak's condition he wouldn't have even cared that much for the child, likely given that responsibility to Manjari. Nav is a great guy, he was introduced as a good person, and that is the script for now. The thing is, all the Nav fans haven't gone through the heartbreak of having their fav character ruined by the plot. Many people loved Abhi or loved Ak as well, but now those characters have been ruined. It will happen with Nav as well, it just hasn't yet.

In Navshu marriage, neither one of them were right. Ak married to escape her reality, and Nav married to have the pretense of a family. But none of it makes either one of them selfish. What is happening now is what is selfish. Nav is friends with Abhi, Ak knows how much Abhi cared for his kids, and they are still hiding Abhir's truth from him. That is plain and simple wrong, but things are super complicated.

Nav k post mein v abhira jaijaikar 🤣 shows who's actually obsessed

Not even one the TM mentioned the two. It was a post about nav and his relationship with akshara, how it's connected to akshara k ex husband 😆

People really keep trying to find faults within Abhinav hey? So hilarious 😂

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I kind of disagree. Nav didn't even know Abhir but still did everything for Ak up to and including getting her to the hospital in terrible conditions and then staying with her child and making sure he didn't die until his mother woke up. Nav was also not in his right mind when he accepted the tag of fatherji, he had been up for four days and scared out of his mind and bonded with this kid.

Honestly, I keep trying to imagine Abhi in that situation, and my understanding is that he would be so caught up with Ak's condition he wouldn't have even cared that much for the child, likely given that responsibility to Manjari. Nav is a great guy, he was introduced as a good person, and that is the script for now. The thing is, all the Nav fans haven't gone through the heartbreak of having their fav character ruined by the plot. Many people loved Abhi or loved Ak as well, but now those characters have been ruined. It will happen with Nav as well, it just hasn't yet.

In Navshu marriage, neither one of them were right. Ak married to escape her reality, and Nav married to have the pretense of a family. But none of it makes either one of them selfish. What is happening now is what is selfish. Nav is friends with Abhi, Ak knows how much Abhi cared for his kids, and they are still hiding Abhir's truth from him. That is plain and simple wrong, but things are super complicated.

He definitely helped Ak unconditionally during pregnancy, but everything he did after that was for the child, not for Ak. If Ak hadn’t proposed I don’t think he would have initiated anything but I don’t think his acceptance even after Ak proposed was right.

If lack of sleep and fear/concern for newborn is responsible for his decision, then most of the world would be in shambles because every new parent/carer goes through lack of sleep and some degree of fear when their child is born, specifically if they are doing it alone without support of their family. I have personally survived more than a month on 2-3 hrs of sleep each day after my son was born premature and spent one month in NICU. Even after he came home, because he had reflux issues and couldn’t sleep, I didn’t get much sleep for a year and was a zombie through out the day.

To be fair to writers, there have been scenes/dialogues for Abhi’s ckt to indicate his anger issue can ruin their life. But they are generally overlooked until the ckt is taken to extreme. Similarly if Nav’s ckt is ruined I think there are already signs in the narrative to justify that, but these are overlooked due to the praise his ckt gets through out the episodes. Also this way writers keep the future plot line open to steer in any direction they choose.

Originally posted by: Sanju_9

Ak said she's being selfish when she made d proposal & Nav also said out aloud that he's being selfish there as well. Maybe had they shown Nav's fears, past happenings some ppl would've found it easier to connect with his decision, but as mentioned earlier they either changed d story mid-track or are saving it up for future plotlines. Also I think Nav was aware of d gratitude part that's why he clearly told Ak that he never wished to be 'ehsaan ka pati'... (ps again venturing in other direction 😅) On returning from UD, what I feel was d reason he cut off from them wasn't to emotionally manipulate Ak into submission (as I've read on some other threads), but to detach from succeeding heartbreak 'cos he was genuinely ready to let the two go if Ak showed even slight inclination towards returning to Ab. Idk whether execution is inept or writers r purposefully showing it this way that everybody could perceive it how they want so when any endgame is finalized atleast one section of d audience could say we said so..

I think his realisation of “gratitude” part came after Udaipur track - how, why - I don’t understand. And I don’t think he intentionally ever wanted to manipulate Ak into submission, in fact he is the submissive ckt in their relationship so far. After Udaipur, he wanted to walk away, but Ak lead him on and he again agreed - it left me scratching my head on both of their actions.

Seriously the writers wanted to drag it more and go around the circles, making the it super boring now.

Those scenes are hardly enough to justify all of this. Anyone would marvel at sonograms and stuff, and yes its not secret that he always wanted a family. My point is, if Ak was in a fragile condition, so was he. Both of them made that decision for the wrong reasons, but it does not make them bad people or reduce how much of a good person he is. Seriously, of course, new parents go through hell, but he was not even the parent until she asked. I am Abhira all the way, but I also don't understand this constant bashing of Nav. He is shown to be a really good person, and most importantly, Ak always had the reins in that relationship. She could have left whenever she wanted to but didn't cause of Abhir and hiding from her family. This decision had zero consequences, the decision that did have consequences was Ak's to hide Abhir's parentage. If she did that through any other means, we would still be at the same point.