Stop blaming Abhimanyu/ stop the hate - Page 6

Only women who go through abuse and fear can only understand what a hell it is to live with an abusive partner or in-laws, so let's not normalise abuse, abuse at any level by any individual is unacceptable. Also, the problem I have with abhimanyu is he deserted his wife when she needed him the most and even now he's not able to see through his entire folly because he's stuck in this perennial victimhood psyche. Finally IMO a wife only expects unconditional support from her husband and can give her entire life in return. Let's not treat women as a property, I'm not a feminist but I stand against gender bias. Also just because AB character is being played by some handsome hunk shouldn't make his kabir Singh kinda antics cool or glamorous, obsession isn't good and it's scary, people who have suffered can only comprehend.

Finally immoral ways of relations aren't cool they just ruin families. YRKKH is the longest running serial due to its USP of realistic family values and less toxicity or exaggeration of ITV.

Originally posted by: _Heer_

I have been a silence watcher over the forum for a period of time now...but been watching ITV serials all my life.

I recently started watching YRKKH when the separation started. It got me intrigued and Abhi/Akshara gave me Anurag/Prerna feels. (Even though Prerna stopped thinking or caring about Anurag and I really really hope that Akshara doesn't, she has to realize and stand up for who she really loves and the father of her child) he was traumatised, shocked and destroyed when all that Neil episode happened... and they need to talk about that and Abhi is over that.... he was wrong for not standing up for her and he apologised... she refused which was soooo good and satisfying to watch because that keeps their relationship/love/anger/narazghi alive. But what else can he do....people want him to die and they say that he doesn't deserve Akshara for the way he treated her... it is all on the writers... and I love Akshara and she deserve all the respect and love... but in this universe all that matters is Abhi/Akshu love... so if they are together nothing else matters apparently.

Okay, Abhi treated her badly...but that is a normal (but unacceptable) behaviour from people specifically men ... In that situation specifically if you are an ITV male lead... more so in Balaji shows but ... YRKKH is giving Balaji a competition in this out of the world love/passion/obsession/blame game story.

Abhi is portrayed like old school male characters... he has been caring/loving/respectful and supportive throughout... but this was all done because the story demanded it.

Anyway... I am surprised..or better shocked to see people wanting/having realistic expectations from an ITV serial

Whenever I want to escape reality and get into an unrealistic and lovey/dovey kind of feeling I start watching Indian serials and only if I like the main leads/their chemistry... and I Love love love how obsessive Abhi is getting over Akshu

I wouldn't be watching if Abhi didn't care about Akshu anymore or if she completely forgot about him... I will stop watching because that would be just too realistic and boring

And India has owned so much of western culture that I am surprised how people are surprised and not accepting how male lead wants to get back together with the female lead... marriage or no marriage...they are soul mates and that is how it is supposed to be...that is what we see in USA tv shows... and you cannot say it doesn't happen in India or anywhere else in Asia...because it does...people do love each other despite marrying others...and long for each other and there are Extra maritial affairs as well...so it is all very realistic...even though that is not where YRKKH is headed...we all know Akshara will never.

Maybe not for the classic YRKKH audience but Duniya main sab kuch ho raha hai...Morally wrong things happen everywhere.

Nothing is surprising or unrealistic other than great grandparents looking so young or immortal

I love and support Abhimanyu because in the end he only does what the writers want him to do... I am just happy his character is not revolving around Ruhi anymore even though she is lovely... and I want Ruhi to realize that Akshara is the most important person in her Poppy's life...so blaming the characters doesn't really make sense.

If Abhi can go mad and turn 360 degrees because his brother died and he lost his twins....(that didn't actually made sense because Akshara wanted them more than he did... but again nothing does on ITV) so can Abhinav Jee turn 360 degrees when he gets to experience Abhi/Akshu 's love ... why is that so hard to believe. People change in life and it is always over stupid and non reasonable reasons that people turn good or bad...there is a very fine line for someone to turn bad or grey. Abhinav getting all villainous for the fear of losing Akshara and Abhir is totally understandable... that will be his reason of turning bad just as Abhimanyu did, when his bro died and he stopped caring and forgot everything he had for Akshara... and again it all goes back to the writers.

All the characters are mere pawns in the writers hands.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Okay, cool. I don't agree but for the sake of it. When she met Abhimanyu in Kasauli she wasn't jumping with glee.

Even if we take Abhinav out of the picture, she did not seek her 'real family' to help her raise her child after divorce. She sought a nobody to father her child; but again we will belittle an adult woman's mental faculties and say that she was an idiot to purposefully, literally exclude her 'real family who make her happy' from her life for the past six years.

By your logic, maybe she doesn't even love Abhir because she hasn't shown him her 'real self', and he literally knew nothing about his own mother's family.

Or maybe, it is easy to be cheerful with your problematic family on a small trip when you have the assurance of being able to go back to your independent life.

I will not expect akshara to jump on abhi and hug him. Nor i will expect her to throw flying kisses at him.

I am only saying akshu never showed her trueself to abhinav. I do understand abhir is still a kid to understand everything she can not share everything. She has been shown happy with abhir but not with abhinav. I have only seen her happy when abhir is with them.

I know may be some ppl will have faced lot of things in life but that would not give them the right to trap some one in loveless marriage. She knows abhinav is good from heart and he will not even say no if she asks any favour.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

i may not speak emotionally as i am not a person who let emotions to control me. But i do understand akshu has gone through a lot in life she will take sometime to come out. But how many years she will still live in her trauma. She is been away from her past from past 6 years.

If she has really not moved on from past 6 years then she may never be able to move on in future too. It would have been wise decision if she stayed single and lead her life like a queen.

I do not want demean anyone but i personally feel women should not let her past control her. They should not think okay i was in this type of relation my life is gone. Why is so important for women to just think about some one who hardly cared for her.

Sorry i might be rude but i kind of belong to a personality type which is not emotional and i do not think too emotionally nor i understand why ppl think emotionally 😄

The only time i get emotional is when i loose my pet or for ppl very close to me(family). But I cant understand other emotions.😄

PTSD is a medical condition, psychiatry and psychology are not made up fads lol. Doctors have to go through years of study, training, board accredition to become psychiatrists and treat health conditions like PTSD. PTSD changes brain's biochemistry. You cannot beat PTSD into submission by 'not being ruled by trauma/emotions.' XYZ is not superior or better or special for not thinking emotionally.

You're making unscientific, ableist, and apathetic statements here.

I'd request you to not belittle mental health and read up on it. This is beyond Shahi's crapfest of a show.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

again i am not even talking about abhinanyu here. I am talking about akshara's behaviour with her family vs nav.

I will not expect akshara to jump on abhi and hug him. Nor i will expect her to throw flying kisses at him.

I am only saying akshu never showed her trueself to abhinav. I do understand abhir is still a kid to understand everything she can not share everything. She has been shown happy with abhir but not with abhinav. I have only seen her happy when abhir is with them.

I know may be some ppl will have faced lot of things in life but that would not give them the right to trap some one in loveless marriage. She knows abhinav is good from heart and he will not even say no if she asks any favour.

Again, she was literally dancing with Abhinav on Mimi's birthday. Even letting go of that, what made her not tell so much as his grandparents' names to Abhir? And she may or may not choose Abhinav, completely her choice. But it is her choice that is invioable. Whatever is between them is their issue. She mindfully chose to play house with Abhinav so if she decides to legalise the marriage between Navra or not, that is her choice.

But Abhimanyu doesn't get to override her consent and badger her to change her rejection of him because of turu lob.

A diabetic can love sugar and choose to not eat it. Nobody gets to forcefeed a diabetic sugar just because he 'loves' it

Originally posted by: Deltablues

PTSD is a medical condition, psychiatry and psychology are not made up fads lol. Doctors have to go through years of study, training, bord accredition to become psychiatrists and treat health conditions like PTSD. PTSD changes brain's biochemistry. You cannot beat PTSD into submission by 'not being ruled by trauma/emotions.' XYZ is not superior or better or special for not thinking emotionally.

You're making unscientific, ableist, and apathetic statements here.

I'd request you to not belittle mental health and read up on it. This is beyond Shahi's crapfest of a show.

We have to treat show as a show. Everyone has right to analyze characters in their own way. I will put my point based on my knowledge you dont have to tell me that akshu has ptsd without even diagnosing it. Because that would be injustice those ppl who really has it. Akshu will be back to normal once they unite abhira. As we all know trp will make that happen post which akshu will be shown as happy dancing like before. So i request you to not insult patients who really has ptsd by comparing them with akshu.

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

i do not want to waste my time in arguing this anymore as i personally feel akshu has not done justice by marrying abhinav is she has really married him. If you want to show akshu had ptsd inorder to justify her actions good for you. Shahi crap fest will not bring such topics of ptsd in their show. With that logic abhi is more impacted on that day as i have seen him going through trauma more than akshu. He has shown taking anxiety pills. Will you justify his actions as reaction of anxiety pills no right.

We have to treat show as a show. Everyone has right to analyze characters in their own way. I will put my point based on my knowledge you dont have to tell me that akshu has ptsd without even diagnosing it. Because that would be injustice those ppl who really has it. Akshu will be back to normal once they unite abhira. As we all know trp will make that happen post which akshu will be shown as happy dancing like before. So i request you to not insult patients who really has ptsd by comparing them with akshu.

You are asking me whether I would justify Abhimanyu abusing, stalking, and harrassing a woman with his anxiety pills when I justified Akshara giving up music as a legitimate trauma response of being accused of causing the death of a family member at her own concert venue — a trauma which was caused by Abhimanyu to begin with.

Lord, one should not make so many false equivalencies and strawmen to justify their ableism on one hand and abusive fictional ship on another.

You were literally belittling people with PTSD and invalidating their triggers, trauma, experiences with statements like :

"akshu's character was living with music she did not learnt music for abhimanyu. She should have thought about abhir too. Her talent can give her more money which can be utilized for abhir's education. We have to think rationally sometimes. For eg if i fell in love in my work place because of my job if i met a guy because of that and he turned abusive i can not leave my job right. For akshu music was her job she was therapist and that's the only thing she is good at other than dancing. She may sell jam but half the jams she just donates. She can not leave her job and talent for some one just because they hurt her as some day she has to give a good life for abhir which they may not be able afford with current situation."

"I do not want demean anyone but i personally feel women should not let her past control her. They should not think okay i was in this type of relation my life is gone. Why is so important for women to just think about some one who hardly cared for her. "

"Sorry i might be rude but i kind of belong to a personality type which is not emotional and i do not think too emotionally nor i understand why ppl think emotionally 😄"

Yes, itv is trash but denying mental health as a way to invalidate a non-existent ship lol

I miss you

Originally posted by: Deltablues

You are asking me whether I would justify Abhimanyu abusing, stalking, and harrassing a woman with his anxiety pills when I justified Akshara giving up music as a legitimate trauma response of being accused of causing the death of a family member at her own concert venue — a trauma which was caused by Abhimanyu to begin with.

Lord, one should not make so many false equivalencies and strawmen to justify their ableism on one hand and abusive fictional ship on another.

You were literally belittling people with PTSD and invalidating their triggers, trauma, experiences with statements like :

"akshu's character was living with music she did not learnt music for abhimanyu. She should have thought about abhir too. Her talent can give her more money which can be utilized for abhir's education. We have to think rationally sometimes. For eg if i fell in love in my work place because of my job if i met a guy because of that and he turned abusive i can not leave my job right. For akshu music was her job she was therapist and that's the only thing she is good at other than dancing. She may sell jam but half the jams she just donates. She can not leave her job and talent for some one just because they hurt her as some day she has to give a good life for abhir which they may not be able afford with current situation."

"I do not want demean anyone but i personally feel women should not let her past control her. They should not think okay i was in this type of relation my life is gone. Why is so important for women to just think about some one who hardly cared for her. "

"Sorry i might be rude but i kind of belong to a personality type which is not emotional and i do not think too emotionally nor i understand why ppl think emotionally 😄"

Yes, itv is trash but denying mental health as a way to invalidate a non-existent ship lol

I miss you

Sorry i might be rude but i kind of belong to a personality type which is not emotional and i do not think too emotionally nor i understand why ppl think emotionally 😄

This was about my personality which i said. As i have been identified as INTJ if you know about different personality types that exists in the world. I will not say i am really intj but most of my characterstics matches with that. Intj's can not understand lot of emotions they only think rationally.

I was never demeaning anyone nor do i support what abhi did. My only point is what akshu is doing with abhinav is injustice as every partner will have some expectation and i also said in my very first comment that i am replying to only one point where you just mentioned since akshu was not intimate with abhinav ppl are not okay with them for which i told more than intimacy what i see is lacking in them and i have not started the topic of ptsd as i was not even aware it exists nor i think serious topics when i compare itv characters as they are all one and the same every show has a leap many show has shown women staying with men. The only difference was there it was shown to audience that they are not married but still had a happy bond between both the characters but here they have shown that akshu is married. You started with making my comments as if i am saying something different or triggering.

I tried to keep my words in control but there is a limit for everything i accept that i don't know pstd nor i have met those patients. But i will not accept that akshu has ptsd and because of which she is playing with abhinav's emotions.

I do not want to continue this arguement anymore. Nor i want to justify why i think so as everyone has different opinion. Please do not assume that all people look for intimacy between characters to show low. Everyone has their own points so stop generalizing them. That's all i want to say.

Peace!

No one hates him we just want him to own his mistakes, take a stand for the love of his life, and build some trust and respect between them.

Sorry, just jumping into this conversation. I am not sure personality type is a required detail. I am not going to discuss ptsd or anything either.

Ak's music was always connected to Abhi since they met and fell in love. Because he fell in love with her music before her. Even when they were getting divorced the first time, she couldn't sing properly and we see her struggling to keep up her music. This is not about a career or anything like that. Music is an emotional thing, without emotions, its sounds pheeka pheeka. Should Ak let Abhi have that much control over her? Obviously not, but this is similar to not wanting to wear a dress your ex complimented or listen to a song you shared with an ex. As to the financial thing, I maintain that being a housewife is also a full-time job, and she has elevated Nav's situation considerably. When he met her, he was working as a driver, and now he owns three cars and a nice house. She doesn't want a career, much less a music career, which is her choice. She is studying to be a lawyer, also likely for Abhir, not for a career in law. And how is she taking advantage? From the beginning, they decided that there would be a line between them.

As to her moving on, you can't really resolve things if you don't even face them. She has shut off her past, and so she is trapped there. She can't move on, and she can't open up that door again. Even now, her feelings for Abhi have not been resolved cause she hasn't even thought about it. She first started thinking when Abhi declared marrying arohi, so now she thinks she should move forward with Nav. But even now, she is keeping her emotions shut off. With Abhir she is a mother, and she loves him, but this is not real akshu. Even abhir thought there was a difference in her at goenka house. As to her smiling or not, I don't care cause she hides her emotions really well, and we never get her POV.