Stop blaming Abhimanyu/ stop the hate - Page 2

Originally posted by: firewings_diya

it will not change unless trp system changes we are not trp viewers. Trp viewers are rural ppl. We can not change anything unless trp viewers stop watching it. Which will not happen. Irrespective what we say on sm it does not matter as long as they are getting money and ads based on trp. Everyone are here to earn money 💰 and whatever gives them money they will do that. It would take a very long time to make trp viewers understand.

Yaar dumping everything on rural audience is not the solution . It's an escape. There r ppl on this forum who want to see abhira no matter what...what about them ? It's #1 in online trps..what about that ?

Rural ppl appreciate these shows coz they haven't seen better in life..their children grow up watching their parents fight , their mother getting abused by their drunkard father . They get married at an early stage and have kids , sometimes they're sexually abused by their own family members ..the woman worships her husband inspite of Being a monster..they will identify with harsh birla and parth birla.....Do we belong to the same section of society ?

I'm not saying they should turn it into a documentary. In this very serial they have shown unmatched family values ..there was a time when mothers told their son , I want a dil like akshara (the original akshara ) ..ppl told me this ...today will any mother say I want a sil like abhimanyu ? On the top of it they're advocating everything that's wrong in a relationship. Akshu reacting like this to abhimanyu In kasauli and in Udaipur is the biggest example. They're trying to whitewash abhimanyu ..we're only being objective abt it n criticizing their writing . Then I'm being told to shut my brain and my eyes n also not write anything bec it's a TV show..😔

Originally posted by: Krinya

Yaar dumping everything on rural audience is not the solution . It's an escape. There r ppl on this forum who want to see abhira no matter what...what about them ? It's #1 in online trps..what about that ?

Rural ppl appreciate these shows coz they haven't seen better in life..their children grow up watching their parents fight , their mother getting abused by their drunkard father . They get married at an early stage and have kids , sometimes they're sexually abused by their own family members ..the woman worships her husband inspite of Being a monster..they will identify with harsh birla and parth birla.....Do we belong to the same section of society ?

I'm not saying they should turn it into a documentary. In this very serial they have shown unmatched family values ..there was a time when mothers told their son , I want a dil like akshara (the original akshara ) ..ppl told me this ...today will any mother say I want a sil like abhimanyu ? On the top of it they're advocating everything that's wrong in a relationship. Akshu reacting like this to abhimanyu In kasauli and in Udaipur is the biggest example. They're trying to whitewash abhimanyu ..we're only being objective abt it n criticizing their writing . Then I'm being told to shut my brain and my eyes n also not write anything bec it's a TV show..😔

Anyone who supports Abhira I am seriously judging your values. I am sorry if that sounds mean, but this is beyond oh we just want mindless entertainment this is saying that audience has no bottom line. I haven't seen every Ekta Kapoor show, but the few I have seen even she has not shown something this trashy, pray correct me if I am wrong has Ekta done worst and if she did, did the audience/fans support it. Pranali, Harshad and every other character on this show maybe not Jay Soni should frankly be embarrassed at what they are forced to act. I sympathize it is their job, money, livelihood, yes you must work but you should also be embarrassed.

It's just not rural people watching the show. Teenagers today get heavily influenced by what is being shown in this number 1 online serials and are taking wrong decisions. Behaving rudely with parents and think it is ok. I have seen in our family only with my sister's and nieces. Thanks to Pakhi from Anupama or take it any character. They watch them all time on Hotstar and get influenced by characters and wish husband like Abhimanyu. I know writers will never change and they only care about money and TRPs but maybe bringing out right thing in these forums might help atleast few kids take right decisions in life and make them understand "Wrong is Wrong"

Originally posted by: Krinya

Yaar dumping everything on rural audience is not the solution . It's an escape. There r ppl on this forum who want to see abhira no matter what...what about them ? It's #1 in online trps..what about that ?

Rural ppl appreciate these shows coz they haven't seen better in life.. their children grow up watching their parents fight , their mother getting abused by their drunkard father . They get married at an early stage and have kids , sometimes they're sexually abused by their own family members ..the woman worships her husband inspite of Being a monster..they will identify with harsh birla and parth birla.....Do we belong to the same section of society ?

I'm not saying they should turn it into a documentary. In this very serial they have shown unmatched family values ..there was a time when mothers told their son , I want a dil like akshara (the original akshara ) ..ppl told me this ...today will any mother say I want a sil like abhimanyu ? On the top of it they're advocating everything that's wrong in a relationship. Akshu reacting like this to abhimanyu In kasauli and in Udaipur is the biggest example. They're trying to whitewash abhimanyu ..we're only being objective abt it n criticizing their writing . Then I'm being told to shut my brain and my eyes n also not write anything bec it's a TV show..😔

@bold underline : Completely agree with you❤.

@bold : They also know the difference between right and wrong. It's my personal experience. I have seen and heard so many people, They don't like all this things. Honestly, the situation is different now from the way it was in the past.

ITV shows tend to last decades contrary to an 8-10 episode of web series or a 2 hour movie. These shows become part of audience routine so makers should be conscious of what they show. Whether it is ITV or OTT or cinema, there are somethings that should NOT be shown or considered as - "normal".

Irrespective of the TRP or whatever BS they follow, they should NOT convey the message that it is OK or worse, heroic to be that way.

1. Refusing to listen to the word - NO. Esp the ML. It is not heroic to obssess. Irrespective of the gender, no is a no. Full stop.

2. Normalizing abuse - be it physical or emotional. A lot of people say things like - OK, at least he / she is not hitting her or shoving her around. Emotional abuse is worse IMO because the wounds and scars are invisible. Be it Manjari or Akshara, it is NOT OK to take abuse with a smile and hope in the heart that the person would change and all they need is love.

Wrong is wrong. YRKKH and other shows showing such behaviour in the name of love or caring is wrong. And if makers are showing it, they should take the criticism from the saner audience.

@Harshadfan21 - Yes, I agree with you. At least in the forums and other platforms, such things should be called out so that the younger generation knows that it is wrong.

Originally posted by: Harshadfan21

It's just not rural people watching the show. Teenagers today get heavily influenced by what is being shown in this number 1 online serials and are taking wrong decisions. Behaving rudely with parents and think it is ok. I have seen in our family only with my sister's and nieces. Thanks to Pakhi from Anupama or take it any character. They watch them all time on Hotstar and get influenced by characters and wish husband like Abhimanyu. I know writers will never change and they only care about money and TRPs but maybe educating in these forums might help atleast few kids take right decisions in life and make them understand "Wrong is Wrong"

@bold underline 💯💯

You are mind reader or what ? I was thinking the same. Teenagers are heavily influenced by all this. Yrkkh Twitter tag is filled with teenagers mostly. Not all but Some of them are totally immature. They don't know the difference between real and reel. 🤦🏻‍♀ On instagram or twitter, If we criticize onscreen characters for their antics, these die hard fans tag us as bashers. They blindly worship them. I'm not able to understand this fandom culture. I like actors but that doesn't mean i have to worship them and like them whatever they are performing. If i like their onscreen character i will praise, if not then of course i will criticize.

Please Ignore grammatical errors🤦🏻‍♀

Originally posted by: Suvika.

ITV shows tend to last decades contrary to an 8-10 episode of web series or a 2 hour movie. These shows become part of audience routine so makers should be conscious of what they show. Whether it is ITV or OTT or cinema, there are somethings that should NOT be shown or considered as - "normal".

Irrespective of the TRP or whatever BS they follow, they should NOT convey the message that it is OK or worse, heroic to be that way.

1. Refusing to listen to the word - NO. Esp the ML. It is not heroic to obssess. Irrespective of the gender, no is a no. Full stop.

2. Normalizing abuse - be it physical or emotional. A lot of people say things like - OK, at least he / she is not hitting her or shoving her around. Emotional abuse is worse IMO because the wounds and scars are invisible. Be it Manjari or Akshara, it is NOT OK to take abuse with a smile and hope in the heart that the person would change and all they need is love.

Wrong is wrong. YRKKH and other shows showing such behaviour in the name of love or caring is wrong. And if makers are showing it, they should take the criticism from the saner audience.

@Harshadfan21 - Yes, I agree with you. At least in the forums and other platforms, such things should be called out so that the younger generation knows that it is wrong.

Well said..

In today's age and time why can't we change the narrative with "respect and consent" as the baseline ? Why can't women have self respect and still be the caring and Compromising wife , mother and dil?

Why can't boys respect a woman's boundaries ? Why his obsessive behavior termed as "machoism " and "true love" , "alpha male" ?

Does abhimanyu really falls in the category of macho men or lover boy ? A mammas boy who agrees to marry arohi for her sake and ruhis sake and behind her back claiming love to her ex cum to be sister in law ? Is this the way to show redemption?

Why can't aroo be the self respecting working woman who rejects abhimanyu , raise her daughter as a single mother or just move on with a better guy ? She still can't see what's the problem with abhimanyu? He flips just like that. Yes he may have been a good father to ruhi but marriage doesn't mean being only a father .

Why can't goenkas support akshu when manjari abuses her ?

Just because ITV Shows us Crap doesn't mean we idolize the crap and EK always makes crap but from dkp we can at least expect some story along side the grand festivals , shaadi's and dances .

They are showing us Mental abuse , We are talking about how Abhimanyu abused .

Everyone has there own opinions and would share there views in this open discussion forum.

If nobody points out what is wrong there will be no scope of change in scripts.

the writers will only write crap .

I dont understand how ITV writers being crappy excuses Abhi of all his wrongdoings and why should we not hate him...Yes Itv shows are crap and writers are doing very bad job...and Abhimanyu Birla is the product of that bad writting...a self centered, abusive, mentally unstable character who "loves" Akshu but never really understood her...and bad products deserve bad review...

You dont find him that bad you can praise him, nobody will stop...people who find him crappy will criticize him...they have that right...writers kharab likh rahe doesn't mean watching a bad abusive character and not pointing it out at all...Everyone is free to share their opinion here...

And its not like Akshu is being praised left and right...even her flaws are being called out...she is like all of Kiara's character flaws combined into one and highlighted...running away, not facing emotional struggles head on, letting others abuse her demean her without protesting, not standing up for herself and letting that Abhi still effect her...and yes a lot of those problems started from childhood and Goenkas are responsible...

Both of them need mental treatment...aise 2 characters ko people who find wrong definitely can dislike and say so too...yes if someone had spread hate against harshad or pranali then that would be wrong...

But this is a public forum where people discuss yrkkh characters...so anyone is free to post their opinion about any character here...you can definitely express ur opinion and so can everyone...as long as its only about characters and story and not the actors its all ok...

Originally posted by: Krinya

Yaar dumping everything on rural audience is not the solution . It's an escape. There r ppl on this forum who want to see abhira no matter what...what about them ? It's #1 in online trps..what about that ?

Rural ppl appreciate these shows coz they haven't seen better in life..their children grow up watching their parents fight , their mother getting abused by their drunkard father . They get married at an early stage and have kids , sometimes they're sexually abused by their own family members ..the woman worships her husband inspite of Being a monster..they will identify with harsh birla and parth birla.....Do we belong to the same section of society ?

I'm not saying they should turn it into a documentary. In this very serial they have shown unmatched family values ..there was a time when mothers told their son , I want a dil like akshara (the original akshara ) ..ppl told me this ...today will any mother say I want a sil like abhimanyu ? On the top of it they're advocating everything that's wrong in a relationship. Akshu reacting like this to abhimanyu In kasauli and in Udaipur is the biggest example. They're trying to whitewash abhimanyu ..we're only being objective abt it n criticizing their writing . Then I'm being told to shut my brain and my eyes n also not write anything bec it's a TV show..😔

See the butchering of Abhimanyu's character is done for trp. Ppl know this fact and they want to see abhira together. If trp was not important for star plus it would have produced shows like sony which hardly cares for trp. Butchering abhi's character itself is wrong as that was not what was shown on promo when yrkkh3 was introduced.

If they would have made it clear from the promos that abhi will be an abuser and akshara will move out of her relation then everyone would have been aware of whats coming up and they would have accepted abhinav. But from the beginning abhi was normal and all of sudden just because paras left the show they butchered abhi's character. Was it hc's mistake? Was it our mistake who signed up for abhira. No it was majorly a track and people would definitely want to see the show considering pov of why they signed up for. Tbh i signed up for hc as i only watch shows of few good actors for their acting skills. Yrkkh is not my cup of tea before hc joined. Now after giving hopes to me that hc is playing positive role and if they make hc negative its very rare that ppl will accept it.

There was a show called saubhagyavathi bhava where karan was the abuser srithi ja was fl who was getting abused and raghav played by hc came as her protector and eventually he died or karan killed or something happend. In that show i was very well know karan is playing abuser role. I was wishing for srithi ja character to get relief from him and here i signed up for the story not for hc as hc came almost at the end of the show.

Here its not like abhi abused akshu every day when track demanded they just manipulated his character. That's only because they want to stick to trp race. In the end blame will go on trp system. I will not blame rural audience but trp should not be considered as a base but cannot do much as trp is something that gives money for channel for airing ads. Without that why channel will spend so much money to impress online audience.

In india its hard to change any systems. Even i have so many complains on government system, reservation system agar uska hi kuch ho nahi raha toh trp system ka kya hoga 😁

I understand your pov but itv ka kuch ho nahi saktha. They just mislead audience randomly introduce tracks and randomly kill characters and randomly bring characters from dead too. So i dont think too much about it and just watch those things which i like and i have skipped neil's death sequence and post leap days as i dont want ruin my mood i came back once they showed abhir. That's how i keep my self with itv logics 🙂