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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: taeji

I really want to know who writes Vedika's Character and her dialogues. I mean, just out of curiosity, I want to see who this person is.

I don't even want to talk about or write in detail or talk about, what I just saw. I am sure you know which scene I am talking about.

It's funny how they (creatives) were vouching for positivity in Vedika's character.

Like imagine, try to imagine, that you are a sane person but then you have a one sided crush on this man, who never ever care for your existence in his personal life, but then due to family pressure ends up marrying you, but then his love his wife comes back, and you know that his family has basically made you into a toy as per their requirement. You know all of this. You know that your one sided crush still loves his first wife and now you also know that your marriage is not valid not even legal and forget about legal aspect that man, even though he is not saying anything, he clearly is looking forward to his first wife and the child with his first wife.

WHO IN THE SANE MIND, will have anymore expectation to live with that man? Who in the sane mind will try to sleep in same room, forget about the bed? Who in the sane mind will still be "fighting" for her right , or who will be having any expectations from that family who is clearly using you for their own satisfaction and who in the sane mind will want to live with that man whose heart is still wandering to another lady, his first wife, to be specific, and when he is clearly finding thousand unspoken ways to run away from you? Like Who?

If THAT kind of person, who still is craving for any attention on marriage aspect, from such a family, or any "that kind of" expectations from such a man, IF such a person is not Des**, then I don't know who is.

I am hopeless when it comes to Creatives' obsession on Vedika's character. Even villains are appreciated, but she is just despicable enough to shut you out of your sense. She is just a lamentable and insignificant baggage, creatives are forcing on viewers. She is not even impactful, a nugatory character, whenever given screen space leaves an irritated and boring impact.

Kartik - Naira

Regarding Kartik, that's the thing. Kartik vs. Naira fans may take this to another level just to have a duel on this as always. I don't want to get into that. Because I am expecting a lot from both of them. A lot more is expected from Kartik, considering the Characterisation that is built in the minds of viewers. The creatives and writers are really doing bad with writing Kartik's role in the matter post leap scenes. He wakes up a moment and then he is sleeping the next because he is not reacting as he was expected to.He is fighting with Naira, have a exciting face off but the mater is left unattended in the middle, on fee many issues. Regarding Kairav, I see that he made some progress based on updates that I read this week. Beside that, he is just playing a passive role, which I am really not in favor of. Naira's character needs to have some character growth. She is no better with her useless obliging and over kind attitude, because at this phase of life, her priorities should govern her actions but instead her priorities are seemingly making her look weak. She is bound to be weak emotionally but not through her decisions and actions. But yes, Naira's character, at the moment is written a tad better and active one than Kartik's.

I am fond of Kartik and Naira, equally, but Writers/creatives are doing a great job ruining it all for me. If Naira is the heroine I want Kartik to be THE hero. Taking decisions, be it in action or be it in thoughts, I want to see more of him, taking active lead in his story.It's not about storyline anymore. The story line is already tempered beyond repair, for me. It's just the actors and the chemistry between leads that has kept me glued but now, it's the question on characterisation. I hope the writers don't ruin this beyond repair too.

But coming back to the topic of this post, Vedika's character, it was not pleasant to watch those clippings but it was funny, to see how she is proving me right. No matter how much Creatives try to work on her character, it will always lack originality and "positivity".

We all share the same feelings towards Vedika. Tbh, I feel her character would have faded into oblivion had we fans not given her the undue attention. Any publicity is good publicity and the cvs used the backlash against the character to their advantage.

Coming to what you said about Kartik and Naira. I agree with you about the writing. I don’t support Naira’s character or her priorities but at least she’s clear on where she stands in regards to Kartik, Vedika, her relationships, etc. Her actions or the way she goes about things might not be the best, but she’s doing what she can to remove herself and her son from this awkward situation.

Kartik, on the other hand, hasn’t done anything meaningful since he found out about Naira being alive and Kairav being his son. He hasn’t taken any action regarding the two marriages, nor does he have an opinion about what he wants. There hasn’t been a single scene dedicated to show where Kartik stands regarding his marriage with Vedika or what he wants from the future. The only reason I know that Kartik is continuing with this marriage is because he feels responsible for Vedika is because of Mohsin’s interviews. Nothing as such has been addressed in the show. They didn’t show Kartik’s reaction to Naira moving to Goenka Villa so that he can start his married life with Vedika, he had no reaction on the thought of divorcing Naira, we don’t know if he’s even aware of his second marriage being illegal. There wasn’t a single scene where they showed us how Kartik feels about Naira having to see him married to someone else.

I love Kartik and I have been pro-Kartik for most parts of this track but the cvs really need to add some depth to his scenes than just surface level anger. They need to make it clear where he stands and what he wants in the future. Him saying I only care about my son is making him appear foolish and selfish to an extent because he’s toying with the feelings of two women.

The story needs to move forward. I feel there hasn’t been any real progress since the truth revelation in August.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#42

He made its clear in the maha epi itself.. be it in anger or whatever but he has stood up on his words.. his actions says that Naira is hos ex and vedika his present.. he might still be in love with his ex.. he might secretly want her back but the legality of marriage or whatever is not going to compel kartik to put away vedika thats for sure..

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Posted: 5 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Fari_15

There’s was another dialogue as well “I can see you but I can’t touch you” 🤣. The cvs could have worded it differently like I can’t reach out to you or something like that but they had to go with “touch”. She’s just appearing desperate right now.

She found out her marriage has no standing in front of law or religion because if I am not wrong, Hinduism doesn’t permit two marriages at the same time yet she walks into the room hours later with the idea of sharing a bed.

Even if we give her the benefit of the doubt and say they took the pheras together, etc, would any woman with a bit of self-respect want to share a bed with a man who doesn’t even looks towards her? She clearly knows he has no feelings towards her. It’s ridiculous for her to assume that he would consummate the marriage when he refrains from any physical contact with her.

Is marriage all about sleeping together? I don’t understand what the cvs are even trying to show. Someone had pointed out that if the tables were reversed and a guy would have suggested sharing a bed with a girl without her consent, the scenario would have been completely different. She is emotionally blackmailing Kartik to sleep with her. Does that count as harassment?

I don't even watch episodes but just few clippings , and ai am already tired of her "tea obsession" , "tension/baat share kariye Kartik", "I am sorry mujhe aisa Nahi bolna chahiye that" and so on. I swear I laugh and then get irritated but then again laugh at her desperate attempts.

Kartik is definitely being harassed mentally by her "we are friends" claptrap.

He is refraining her time and again post this hurried marriage sequence. I haven't seen much of scenes before Kairav's entry so I am curious was Vedika really allowed to "take care" of Kartik. If I am not wrong Kartik didn't give her two hoot before. One sided crush for five years is just mockery for those who talk in Vedika's defense. She is just coming across as really desperate.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: taeji

You post is really convincing. But I still believe Vedika's character was really one of those poorly written one. Vedika is shrewd, Naira is manipulated, but I don't think she has any control over her manipulation over Goenka's and Kartik. I might be wrong, as I am not really understanding Kartik's take on his 2nd marriage. he is going to and fro, the creatives are not highlighting his thoughts on the situation much, so for now, I am under assumption that Kartik doesn't even consider sparing two thoughts on her. It's just that when she comes in front he goes quiet, so I am not really sure about him being a toy in hands of Vedika, yet.

As for Goenka's, they have used her well, to their satisfaction. But I haven't seen episodes for a fairly long time by now, so I am not sure if they are really toyed by her. Goenka's were never in favor of Naira. They hated Naira to the extent that any one would be acceptable to them but Naira. They were just faking obsession for Vedika because I think they just wanted someone anyone for Kartik without giving much thought. I think.

Vedika's character is a result of off the cuff attempt to introduce a love triangle. Looked really weird and stupid. Her character, from vouching of "positive character" by creatives to portrayal of poor helpless woman to now becoming impulsive and shrewd, is coming across as a mockery. There is no proper portrayal of that significant growth. Its just that I can see the dire attempt to revive the plot the writer planned but it's no more convincing amidst the trp induced hurried changes in story. V's character was written by a lot of love by creatives, in hope of an amazing plot, which later came across as nothing but frustrating stupid character in front of Kaira's and Kairav's significant issues, which CVs overlooked. I may be wrong, though.

Since I said your post is convincing, my views can just be one side of story, and creatives can actually turn her into something major, seeing the love they have for such a character.

But any attempts that they have made to revive her character was a complete flop and uninteresting showcase, for me.

I think Vedika could never be a positive character...because if she had been a really good decent person and karthik still dumped her after marriage for naira ..then both he and naira would not have come out looking good. It would seem like he had toyed with her feelings ..So she has to be made negative or mahaan where she sends karthik to naira ...at the moment she’s selfish and manipulative..so she could go all the way negative ...where she may try to hurt kairav and naira physically in order to get them out of the way or they could show her suddenly realizing her efforts were futile and she lets karthik go with her blessings. Obviously it would be a more meaty role for Pankhuri if she turns negative rather than boring mahaan... The makers could also have chosen pankhuri, an actress who always plays positive roles so we wouldn’t have suspected she’s go negative ,.because Pankhuri has this good girl look...she is very far from a regular vamp in looks,..lol😂...But I think before Pankhuri makes her exit they will give her some good screentime ,.and that’s more likely to happen if she goes negative with more plotting and planning and whatever goes with being bad,.lol.. and I think it karthik,.she was his zimmedari and now he’s doing Ehsaan for her,.as he does owe her since her dad died saving him..and he was basically emotionally blackmailed into marrying her by k dadi and manish during that hospital drama..
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Posted: 5 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: taeji

I don't even watch episodes but just few clippings , and ai am already tired of her "tea obsession" , "tension/baat share kariye Kartik", "I am sorry mujhe aisa Nahi bolna chahiye that" and so on. I swear I laugh and then get irritated but then again laugh at her desperate attempts.

Kartik is definitely being harassed mentally by her "we are friends" claptrap.

He is refraining her time and again post this hurried marriage sequence. I haven't seen much of scenes before Kairav's entry so I am curious was Vedika really allowed to "take care" of Kartik. If I am not wrong Kartik didn't give her two hoot before. One sided crush for five years is just mockery for those who talk in Vedika's defense. She is just coming across as really desperate.

No, her and Kartik never shared a bond prior the wedding. Everyone just assumed that Kartik would eventually marry her because he had brought her home after her father’s death and because she loved him.

She extended a hand of friendship when they were in Goa saying that he can’t give her Naira’s place but he can allow her to have her own by being his friend.

As soon as he returned from Goa, Dadi fell sick, compelling Kartik to propose to Vedika. She accepted as his friend but then as soon as the marriage was finalised, she started acting like a weirdo forgetting that Kartik had only accepted the marriage for Dadi’s sake.


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Posted: 5 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: Fari_15

We all share the same feelings towards Vedika. Tbh, I feel her character would have faded into oblivion had we fans not given her the undue attention. Any publicity is good publicity and the cvs used the backlash against the character to their advantage.

Coming to what you said about Kartik and Naira. I agree with you about the writing. I don’t support Naira’s character or her priorities but at least she’s clear on where she stands in regards to Kartik, Vedika, her relationships, etc. Her actions or the way she goes about things might not be the best, but she’s doing what she can to remove herself and her son from this awkward situation.

Kartik, on the other hand, hasn’t done anything meaningful since he found out about Naira being alive and Kairav being his son. He hasn’t taken any action regarding the two marriages, nor does he have an opinion about what he wants. There hasn’t been a single scene dedicated to show where Kartik stands regarding his marriage with Vedika or what he wants from the future. The only reason I know that Kartik is continuing with this marriage is because he feels responsible for Vedika is because of Mohsin’s interviews. Nothing as such has been addressed in the show. They didn’t show Kartik’s reaction to Naira moving to Goenka Villa so that he can start his married life with Vedika, he had no reaction on the thought of divorcing Naira, we don’t know if he’s even aware of his second marriage being illegal. There wasn’t a single scene where they showed us how Kartik feels about Naira having to see him married to someone else.

I love Kartik and I have been pro-Kartik for most parts of this track but the cvs really need to add some depth to his scenes than just surface level anger. They need to make it clear where he stands and what he wants in the future. Him saying I only care about my son is making him appear foolish and selfish to an extent because he’s toying with the feelings of two women.

The story needs to move forward. I feel there hasn’t been any real progress since the truth revelation in August.

Exactly. Yes, yes and yes. It will just be repetition of opinions if I write anything further here.

Regarding Kartik's no reaction mode, it's really disappointing to see his character becoming such a passive one. All I can get about Kartik's thoughts are through Mohsin's interviews.

I was in favor of Kartik being non reactive since truth revelation, but it's really stupid on Writers past to drag it for more than a month. Oh so frustrating.

Character accusations, five years separation, Akhil's infidelity track, Kairav's health, and much more significant issues ended up into insignificant trivial issues but Vedika and her situation became the prime concern. It's been over a month and it's so Oh. So. Frustrating.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: Raxya

He made its clear in the maha epi itself.. be it in anger or whatever but he has stood up on his words.. his actions says that Naira is hos ex and vedika his present.. he might still be in love with his ex.. he might secretly want her back but the legality of marriage or whatever is not going to compel kartik to put away vedika thats for sure..

Oh I liked that episode, for the reason that Kaira were shown very much in love and very much in pain. I was so looking forward, because I was new to this show, and I thought writers may write something amazing with the track, I didn't knew that hype was for nothing. It was just bogus and worthless to have any hopes on, since creatives have no solid sensible content to show.

I really believe, Kartik was being impulsive and impatient to take it out on Naira for keeping them apart with the "meet my ex-wife" swag.

Regarding the point that, he is not going put Vedika away, I am really waiting for him to speak up or showcase his thoughts in the show regarding this matter. And if it is so, that will be the final closure call for me.

Like I said. I expect Naira as well as Kartik to act as per their priorities. They are grown over five years. Their separation should have some impact over their maturity. I expect them to be proactive for what they want and what they believe is their priority. Instead of being at whims of whoever dictates them.

But Kartik and Naira are in the hands of same creatives who write Vedika's character, I don't really have much expectations there.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I used to feel bad for her but now I don't. The way she says that she is willing to accept kairav to everyone makes me angry as if she is very mahaan. And that comment where she said she wants naira to take kairav away from his family because its for the benefit of everyone. She is delusional. The only one who will benefit is her only. And the way she wanted to sleep on the same bed as karthik when she knows their marriage is not legal. I hate people like her who think they are mahaan but actually are selfish to the core. Im also hating the way manish is talking about or to naira. Have some respect. She is still ur grandson's mother. Everyone has forgotten what naira has done for everyone it seems. Karthik's anger to naira is justified. She is again going to take his son away from her. But this vedika with her suicide attempt forced naira to take that decision. Waiting for her to leave the show

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Originally posted by: Paytonlee101

I used to feel bad for her but now I don't. The way she says that she is willing to accept kairav to everyone makes me angry as if she is very mahaan. And that comment where she said she wants naira to take kairav away from his family because its for the benefit of everyone. She is delusional. The only one who will benefit is her only. And the way she wanted to sleep on the same bed as karthik when she knows their marriage is not legal. I hate people like her who think they are mahaan but actually are selfish to the core. Im also hating the way manish is talking about or to naira. Have some respect. She is still ur grandson's mother. Everyone has forgotten what naira has done for everyone it seems. Karthik's anger to naira is justified. She is again going to take his son away from her. But this vedika with her suicide attempt forced naira to take that decision. Waiting for her to leave the show

Vedika is probably the most obnoxious character in the last few years of YRKKH. She cries over anything and everything and thinks Naira stole Kartik from her when Naira always had him. I hate her and the way she acts especially with the Kairav thing where she thinks she deserves an award for accepting him.

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