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Posted: 7 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: sammy17



@Bold- What this is, is an example of how indian tv romanticises man-handling/ physical abuse of women by men in indian serials. Arnav singh raizada, raman bhalla, shivaay singh oberoi are three big examples of this romanticised abusive hero.



I would say blame the producers for doing that. The scene was silly. Karthik a professor and a trustee decides to manhandle Naira on the college campus and not one person saw this. I am fed up with Karthik's nonsense behavior.

Just saw the same thing happened in Kaleerein where Vivaan throws out his pregnant wife Meera.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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🤣Murat drops scalding coffee on hayats hand but i love that scene coz of how he gets mad and puts the lotion on the next day.
Naira has said a few times in the past and i think this is more disturbing they would use their hands on each other but not leave each other🤣or something like that i was like😲🤣
I love dark romance
and i have seen way worse.
Kartik just grabbed her and when she pushed him him backwards he had the W*F am i doing expression on his face
Love is not always clear and perfect. sometimes its ugly people make mistakes people learn from them(not naira who i am sure even after this will lie about something to kartik)
I dont think he would ever hurt her. (he is too much of a puppy) he would kill himself first
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I still have no problem with Kaira's separation but story should progress...instead of bringing up filler tracks like MMS one that also on Tanvi leaving the main track...they should have revealed Karthik's side of story...or even Goenka's story might have worked for me...how they are again a dispersed family...what made KD leave home when she was never helpless kind of character...what made Surekha dislike Suwarna...If Naksh knew about Naira's leg injury than why he has problem with Naitik staying with Naira?...Even liked the way Keerti sunaofied Suwarna from time to time...displayed human emotions of disapproval over her mother's inclination towards sons...Kunal locking up Karthik and Naira in a classroom as spoilers indicated would be a better scenario according to me than creating more misunderstandings...I expected Karthik to be disturbed or somewhere hurt seeing Naira's emptiness...Leaked MMS is not the only problem girls face in college there are several problems of students in general that might be highlighted as side track...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sammy17


@Bold- What this is, is an example of how indian tv romanticises man-handling/ physical abuse of women by men in indian serials. Arnav singh raizada, raman bhalla, shivaay singh oberoi are three big examples of this romanticised abusive hero.


Oh..There r plenty..Rk of madhubala, kabir of ishq subhan allah..But all these characters were etched out that way..Rk was gray..Raman always had temper issues..Arnav had a past..Kartik's anger is not justified except he is blaming naira continuously for his miseries. For hiding for lying for attitude for being indifferent ..

@sammy it's not the female lead only who is an expert in hiding..Whosoever in yr gets a chance they do it and they have the same reasoning "main kaise bataoon", "unko bura lagega" , or they want to tell and someone disturbs them..The whole plot of yr is based on hiding..Naira hi kyun, kartik will also do it whenever it's convinient to him and everyone ...Naira didn't tell naitik about kartik, how does it make sense..He was right no"main yahan kyun aaya hoon if you want to face it alone" ..Suvarna mata hid shubham's truth for 18 or how many years! And she comes around to scold naira for hiding..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


Oh..There r plenty..Rk of madhubala, kabir of ishq subhan allah..But all these characters were etched out that way..Rk was gray..Raman always had temper issues..Arnav had a past..Kartik's anger is not justified except he is blaming naira continuously for his miseries. For hiding for lying for attitude for being indifferent ..

@sammy it's not the female lead only who is an expert in hiding..Whosoever in yr gets a chance they do it and they have the same reasoning "main kaise bataoon", "unko bura lagega" , or they want to tell and someone disturbs them..The whole plot of yr is based on hiding..Naira hi kyun, kartik will also do it whenever it's convinient to him and everyone ...Naira didn't tell naitik about kartik, how does it make sense..He was right no"main yahan kyun aaya hoon if you want to face it alone" ..Suvarna mata hid shubham's truth for 18 or how many years! And she comes around to scold naira for hiding..


@bold : How conveniently the family forgot that it was Kaira who tried to welcome Shubham to this madcap family... while Swarna hid his existence entire life. Hypocrisy rules.. high and mighty Goenkas are allowed to kill ppl and be forgiven .. hide about ppl's existence and be forgiven... but how dare a daughter in law tries to give a drug addict few hours which he begged for. She should be thrown out because she is not own blood.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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I've mentioned this before but both Naira & Kartik are wrong here & this "new" problem has been a problem in their marriage but I do think Kartik could do better talking to Naira as I feel he hasn't made enough efforts.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: A HUGE FAN

I've mentioned this before but both Naira & Kartik are wrong here & this "new" problem has been a problem in their marriage but I do think Kartik could do better talking to Naira as I feel he hasn't made enough efforts.


I feel , before shubham's death, it was naira's fault entirely ..However she deserves to be forgiven as she was not the one who put him on drugs , nor did she do anything intentionally ..Along with naira it was goenka familys specially suvarna 's responsibility to look after shubham as he was nowhere acting normal...A blind person can also notice but goenka s did not..He was drawing a lot of money from the accounts nobody tried to find out why. ...


After shubham's death it was only kartiks fault as he failed naira ...If after hearing her, he decided that yes naira's mistake is unpardonable , then I won't blame anyone..neither him nor her...But given the circumstances , naira was the one who acted maturely , and walked out , tried to move on..Kartik chose to be his mamma's puppy so be it..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Lol i will repeat both r at fault.
Unrealistic expectations
And no trust what so ever

They need to find themselves before they can be with each other.

we cannot ignore the fact that with the cases of RK, and all of those other angry young male leads they were not born that way. something from their pasts set them off. Be it mother issues or woman leaving them.
Kartik changing as a person stems from what happend to him he lost his brother and his wife to him did not even feel sorry about it.


Naira became quiet because nobody listened to her when she needed it the most.

monsters are not born they are creations of circumstances neither is evil or bad


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnyaRSingh

Lol i will repeat both r at fault.

Unrealistic expectations
And no trust what so ever

They need to find themselves before they can be with each other.

we cannot ignore the fact that with the cases of RK, and all of those other angry young male leads they were not born that way. something from their pasts set them off. Be it mother issues or woman leaving them.
Kartik changing as a person stems from what happend to him he lost his brother and his wife to him did not even feel sorry about it.


Naira became quiet because nobody listened to her when she needed it the most.

monsters are not born they are creations of circumstances neither is evil or bad



Don't mind, I too love these timepass debates 😆

But how can you say that she did not feel sorry about it? Anyone knowing naira will know this, how can kartik think like that ? Anyways he would be knowing naira's view only if he asked or noticed her reaction.. sorry feel kar rahi hai toh kya kare? Exactly what will melt kartik's heart? Rone mein suvarna ko competition deti shubham ki dead body par ? Or cry on his door day and night begging her to let her in? How do people show that they are sorry?


plz elaborate on the unrealistic expectations of naira ...After shubham 's death she wanted to meet kartik (hospital scene) , naitik and she went to goenka house but kartik and mamma shut the door on their face, they called kartik , he was not ready to listen, may be naira tried a few more times ..Because it was "her" mistake she tried to mend things ..But will she crucify herself for the sin she commitee ? How else would she react if her father is insulted and she is blamed n asked "nikal jao is ghar mein nai aaogi tum" etc. Her expectation of asking forgiveness is wrong or what exactly is wrong? She tried n she failed , she decided to move on with her life..Now she doesn't want to talk about it , or mend her relation..Why? Because kartik goenka is not interested , still not interested in knowing her part of the story..Where will this end ? I don't know...




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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: _charu_


Don't mind, I too love these timepass debates 😆

But how can you say that she did not feel sorry about it? Anyone knowing naira will know this, how can kartik think like that ? Anyways he would be knowing naira's view only if he asked or noticed her reaction.. sorry feel kar rahi hai toh kya kare? Exactly what will melt kartik's heart? Rone mein suvarna ko competition deti shubham ki dead body par ? Or cry on his door day and night begging her to let her in? How do people show that they are sorry?


plz elaborate on the unrealistic expectations of naira ...After shubham 's death she wanted to meet kartik (hospital scene) , naitik and she went to goenka house but kartik and mamma shut the door on their face, they called kartik , he was not ready to listen, may be naira tried a few more times ..Because it was "her" mistake she tried to mend things ..But will she crucify herself for the sin she commitee ? How else would she react if her father is insulted and she is blamed n asked "nikal jao is ghar mein nai aaogi tum" etc. Her expectation of asking forgiveness is wrong or what exactly is wrong? She tried n she failed , she decided to move on with her life..Now she doesn't want to talk about it , or mend her relation..Why? Because kartik goenka is not interested , still not interested in knowing her part of the story..Where will this end ? I don't know...





Agree with you fully! Karthik can't continue to accuse naira without questioning himself whether he ever let her explain what happened considering according to goenka's only naira knew about shubham's addiction, then they and karthik should think whether they did the right thing to kick naira out and not contact her in two years without allowing her a chance to speak. Even the court allows the accused a chance to speak in their own favour about the case from their own perspective before announcing the person guilty, but somehow, in the court of goenka's, judgments are passed without thinking on the basis of emotions, whether that be anger or mourning.


Even if naira is guilty of not telling them on time, she deserves forgiveness and not being kicked out considering when their daughter mansi accidentally killed naira's mother with her car, fled the scene out of fear (this is legally considered a hit and run case, hence a crime), hid the truth and let her own brother be accused, their son (akhilesh) misguides naira with fake evidence and a fake culprit to absolve their daughter of the crime... naira STILL after a few hours of anger (well mostly shock and feeling of betrayal) thought carefully and realised mansi was just a child and didn't do it intentionally, so shouldn't be punished, and forgave the goenka's. Yet conveniently, every single one of them forgot this act of forgiveness, mercy and maturity from naira when it was one of the goenka's who killed a vital member of the singhania's, and didn't even think that naira deserved an opportunity to explain herself. 👏🤢😡

BTW, how was naithik insulted? I'm not too sure, as I think I missed an episode or two after leap.

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