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Posted: 6 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Purv_01

You do have a point. And I feel, the best thing about the show is how it tries to stick to reality. No character is pure white or black, which is only human.

Vishakha has never been a strong character like Nanu or Sameer, though they were quite progressive too. But very similar to what women were during that time, or at least what was expected of them. We even saw a similar situation for Bela Chachiji - for herself and Pooja Didi.


Yeah.Women seem royally suppsessed on those days.The only difference mayb naina preety coz of chachaji's upbringing.
But see,puja is the same typical of woman who breaks Down easily and needs others help for saving her marriage.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: Rph09

Loved your post! ❤️



.Thanks
I really expected lots of chappal thinking I may have brutally critised the characters.
I myself felt bad writing about mundit like that.
But as we all know,truth sucks
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Posted: 6 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: Sushi99

You r right and kal k episode dekhne k baad pata chala ki sayed pehele bhi vishaka ko yehi haal kiya hoga so she was forced to leave Sam and which is real, real life Mein bhi jab aap dusri sadhi Karte ho toh aisa hota hai, dusri sadhi toh kya kuch ghar Mein toh single sadhi Mein bhi aise problem bhi honge, I agree itna real character dikhate hai na cvs ki har bar dil jeet lete hai, na over melo drama, yes bich Mein toda huwa tha phir bhi usko chodke hamisha reality hi dikhate hai.


Exactly my point.Thats the beauty of the show.
We don't know the reason yet.why judge a character?
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rituriyaakhil

Vishakha has always been the real woman for me and I have always supported her even though majority of the fans dislike her to the core.

I have a close friend who was married at 18, right after the high school. She was three months pregnant and only 6 months into the marriage when her husband was killed in a freak car accident. At 19 she was a mom and a widow. Her parents found another suitor for her and asked her for remarry. Initially she refused because the guy's family had put the condition that the kid won't be joining her. Since she was so young and her whole life was ahead of her, her parents volunteered to raise her child and convinced her to get remarried. Unlike Sameer, her daughter does not have issues with either mom or the stepfather even though she does not live with them. However, whenever there is a party or festival, at least there will be at least one person who will assert that my friend was selfish and bad mother who left her kid to find her own happiness. That is how life rolls for moms who remarry in our society. My friend's remarriage happened in 1999. Vishakha probably got married in the 70s I cannot even imagine what women like her would hear in functions at that time.

I don't like to accuse anyone without knowing the real scenario. We know Vishakha remarried and Nanu stepped up to take care of kids but we don't know how her second marriage transpired. What if it was Nanu who urged her to remarry and then stepping up to take care of Sameer just like in my friend's case? To me leaving your kids to be raised by grandparents does not equate to abandoning your child. For me abandoning ones child mean leaving your child at orphanage, giving up your child for adoption or even dumping your child near a trash can. I don't think Vishakha did any of these things. I actually feel that she has done what she can under given circumstances.

Also we don't know her relation with Somani that much either. During Delhi track, we had seen Somani listening to Vishakha and even getting ready to open provident fund for Sameer at her saying. We also saw Somani taking care of her when she was sick. Now we are seeing different side of Somani where he is jealous of the attention his wife is showering on his stepson. Somethings are easier said than done - I am assuming there were promises from Somani to be the fair parent to Sameer as Viskhakha is to Rohan at the time they got married. If there were such promises, of course Somani did not upkeep those. Somani behaves just like a regular stepfather and Sameer behaves like a regular stepson who clash with each other like two metal containers and sandwiched in between is Vishakha. I think that Vishakha being a great mom to her stepson is actually a great trait that she has - not everyone can love someone else's child like that. If she can bestow so much love on someone else's child, why are we thinking of her as a bad person? I understand she has been limited due to her marriage to be with Sameer as much as she would have wanted but I have never felt she has not loved him. At this point people may argue that she is again choosing Somani over him but I think Sameer is married now and does not need her but she still has a biological daughter who is much younger than Sameer who takes the precedence.

My question is why are we so judgmental about a mom remarrying? Why is mother expected to make so many sacrifices? Does she not have the right to be happy? Kids grow old, they marry and they have their own life what about a mom's life? Remarrying does not always mean low self-esteem in women at all. It sometime takes more courage to remarry and face the taunts than chose to take the regular route of being a sacrificing mom.

After this post some people will come up and say I know this person who did not marry for the sake of her kid. Good for such women because they made their choices not to marry but if someone chooses to marry, I don't think we should condone her either.


I made a similar post in another thread, so reposting here. Totally agree, find Vishakha's character very real.

I am very intrigued by What made Vishakha choose. I hope we get to hear the back story. What I can understand is, that it must be the 70s when she would have been widowed and society was a bit ruthless for widows with all sorts of cultural taboos. Yes Nanu could have easily provided for her and Sameer. But it must have been more than economics. It must have been about her being accepted in society as someone's wife. I feel Nanu being ahead of times would have persuaded her and assured her of taking care of Sameer. I wouldn't call it anyone's fault because Vishakha also deserved a life but both Nanu and Vishakha failed to predict the effects of their decision on Sameer and that's what life is, a series of good and bad decisions. At that time they must have felt it was for the best but obviously it was the worst decision for Sameer and from his point of view.

Also all three, Sameer, Vishakha and Nanu are good human beings with a good heart and they probably believe in the good in others too. Maybe despite the condition, Vishakha must have thought that Somani may come around and accept her son. While it was expected from Somani for Vishakha to leave her son and raise his, Vishakha couldn't expect Somani to accept Sameer. In those days, Somani despite being a widower with a child would have been considered a catch by even families of unmarried girls because of him being financially successful. So I feel somewhere Vishakha feels eternally grateful to Somani for marrying her despite her being a mother of a child.

Despite,Somani being a jerk, he and his mom wholeheartedly accepted Vishakha. If you remove Sameer from the dynamics, there's is the perfect happy family. Even in day before yesterday's epi, while Somani was being a jerk, he didn't push her to cause her physical harm. He immediately apologised and asked her to be careful. Even in Delhi when she was gravely Ill, he tended to her and took care of her. His Indian male ego is unable accept Sameer. He doesn't want to accept ( though knowing fully well) that his wife was touched by another man and Sameer is the living proof, constantly reminding him of the fact.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Octothorpe

You know what, I don't hate Vishakha. In fact, everyone does have a choice to choose their happiness. If her happiness lied with Mr. Somani, cool! She left Sameer with Nanu, still cool! Being selfish isn't bad I believe but sometimes you are selfish you don't need to pretend you are not. If she gave away Sameer and moved on in life I would have preferred no mention of her in his life too. It was very inhumane of her to shower so much of love on Rohan just in front of Sameer who recently lost his entire world, his Nanu (I'm talking of Delhi track. Saw it in bits and pieces.) I'm not very much familiar with the show tracks and the characterisation because I have started to watch it recently but the one thing I understood was, Vishakha, though chose to leave Sameer still wanted to run his life and continuously compared him with Rohan much to his dismay. There are times when a child needs his parents, at least his mother and she wasn't there, so I guess she stands no chance to voice her opinions in his life too later on when he learnt to be on his own. (I don't know what I wrote. I just am not happy with what she was in initial episodes because I'm still stuck on em 😆)


I get ur point.Specially the way vishakha always suspects sameer is highly annoying.
Yaar,I even wrote my first ever os just to redeem her character or trying to put some views from her side.So,I dont get so hyper with her spineless behaviour.

But the thing is she has been always like that.She gets easily manipulated ,influenced by her hubby plus inlaws
(The fact sameer was a rebel never helped too.
But she forgot it was her who made him like that)

& also never has an opinion.yeah,she tries to be there for sameer in academic places & all but that's just not enough.
But again that's vishakha for u.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: ruchi3179

Vishakha type women exists everywhre & now too.It is not an easy thing to live on your own terms in society & mentally she is weak.There


Yeah.I have seen too many.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjali33

I totally agree with your post. Everyone has their reasons. Vishakha was young I think, when her husband died. How would she live her entire life? Bearing taunts of the society. And her father was modern enough to get her remarried then why not. And ofcourse Nanu might hv assured her that he'll take care of Sameer. It was better than leaving him with Somanis (assuming Nanu had a very good understanding of people)

The point is that she was weak. She could not put forth her wish to keep her son with her. The need of being saved from society's taunts and Nanu's assurance led her to agreeing to Somani's condition.

PS- not defending Vishakha. She is weak, and that's her mistake.


100% agreed.you got the being alone is scary point right for these type of peopl.
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Posted: 6 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: Purv_01



Totally agree with you


Me too
Maybe hate is a big word.
We just dont like her.
Also the fact she is a mother, that fact alone raises our expectations.
But being a weak one,she keeps pn disappointing us
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: rituriyaakhil

Vishakha has always been the real woman for me and I have always supported her even though majority of the fans dislike her to the core.

I have a close friend who was married at 18, right after the high school. She was three months pregnant and only 6 months into the marriage when her husband was killed in a freak car accident. At 19 she was a mom and a widow. Her parents found another suitor for her and asked her for remarry. Initially she refused because the guy's family had put the condition that the kid won't be joining her. Since she was so young and her whole life was ahead of her, her parents volunteered to raise her child and convinced her to get remarried. Unlike Sameer, her daughter does not have issues with either mom or the stepfather even though she does not live with them. However, whenever there is a party or festival, at least there will be at least one person who will assert that my friend was selfish and bad mother who left her kid to find her own happiness. That is how life rolls for moms who remarry in our society. My friend's remarriage happened in 1999. Vishakha probably got married in the 70s I cannot even imagine what women like her would hear in functions at that time.

I don't like to accuse anyone without knowing the real scenario. We know Vishakha remarried and Nanu stepped up to take care of kids but we don't know how her second marriage transpired. What if it was Nanu who urged her to remarry and then stepping up to take care of Sameer just like in my friend's case? To me leaving your kids to be raised by grandparents does not equate to abandoning your child. For me abandoning ones child mean leaving your child at orphanage, giving up your child for adoption or even dumping your child near a trash can. I don't think Vishakha did any of these things. I actually feel that she has done what she can under given circumstances.

Also we don't know her relation with Somani that much either. During Delhi track, we had seen Somani listening to Vishakha and even getting ready to open provident fund for Sameer at her saying. We also saw Somani taking care of her when she was sick. Now we are seeing different side of Somani where he is jealous of the attention his wife is showering on his stepson. Somethings are easier said than done - I am assuming there were promises from Somani to be the fair parent to Sameer as Viskhakha is to Rohan at the time they got married. If there were such promises, of course Somani did not upkeep those. Somani behaves just like a regular stepfather and Sameer behaves like a regular stepson who clash with each other like two metal containers and sandwiched in between is Vishakha. I think that Vishakha being a great mom to her stepson is actually a great trait that she has - not everyone can love someone else's child like that. If she can bestow so much love on someone else's child, why are we thinking of her as a bad person? I understand she has been limited due to her marriage to be with Sameer as much as she would have wanted but I have never felt she has not loved him. At this point people may argue that she is again choosing Somani over him but I think Sameer is married now and does not need her but she still has a biological daughter who is much younger than Sameer who takes the precedence.

My question is why are we so judgmental about a mom remarrying? Why is mother expected to make so many sacrifices? Does she not have the right to be happy? Kids grow old, they marry and they have their own life what about a mom's life? Remarrying does not always mean low self-esteem in women at all. It sometime takes more courage to remarry and face the taunts than chose to take the regular route of being a sacrificing mom.

After this post some people will come up and say I know this person who did not marry for the sake of her kid. Good for such women because they made their choices not to marry but if someone chooses to marry, I don't think we should condone her either.


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U totally get my point of view.She did whatever she could despite being away.i have no pb with her getting remarried,having a family n all.
The reason I called her self esteem low is because she never took a stand for sameer.or for even herself.She always believed sameer as THE rebel one as portrayed by her in laws.It took her a lot of time to know the actual sameer.when she realized what's happening to her son in delhi,she imediately let him go.
But again and again she questioned sameer's decision.Yeah,she came around but never strongly.
That's my problem with her.but as I said,that's how people really are.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: JaySee




Very good post.
I also don't hate Vishakha. But I agree that her decision related to Sameer was not always proper. A life of widow during 70s is really tough. I know someone very close to me who got widowed iat very young age during 70s and her kids were also very young at that time. She survived only because she was financially secure at that time and her brothers were all ready to take care of her and kids. In Vishakha's case we know that she is not that smart and she doesn't have any brothers to be her support and during that time even Nanaji may not be that much rich to provide financial security for her. So the best option is to marry her off again and Nanaji take care of Sameer. More than that Somani was ready to provide financial support for Sameer but he doesn't want him to be physically present in between his kids.
Somani always tried to give a bad impression of Sameer to Vishakha so that she hates him and never ask to have Sameer with them and her full love and concentration will always be there for Rohan and Deepika.
So we can't blame anyone. Each of them got their own justification for their behavior.



Wow..That's a really good one.I was about to do somani's character assessment when i saw ur post.
Thanks for saving me the trouble.😆
Totally agreed.
Also If i may add,somani is always there whenever sameer created a blunder.(well mayb to taunt him,but still HE WAs there)
The fact he has such a manipulative mom also may have contributed to shape his character like that.
In a word,he is a typical over possessive ,selfish typical MAN who wants everything for himself!

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